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    oh dear..
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/big-little-lies-season-2-andrea-arnold-lost-creative-control-jean-marc-vallee-1202156884/

    As much as I hate what they did to Andrea Arnold, I have absolutely loved this season so far so maybe it was for the best…

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    oh dear.. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/big-little-lies-season-2-andrea-arnold-lost-creative-control-jean-marc-vallee-1202156884/

    I mean I get why they wanted to keep Vallée’s amazing style from S1, but that’s not fair what they did. I feel bad for Arnold. But I could totally feel that the direction and editing weren’t enhancing each other, and they’re my only complaints about this season.

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    I believe it.  Despite supposedly leaving the show, Jean-Marc Vallée not only has retained his executive producer and co-editor credits, but has bizarrely received a “special thanks” on every episode in addition to those, which I interpret from the article as being in lieu of a co-director credit for the reshoots.

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    That is shameful. Sounds like the old corporate machine always trying to emulate past success. It wouldn’t have hurt letting this season have its own style and voice. I guess having the female perspective on a show that’s literally about women is too much to ask for. They get browney points from hiring a female director (which they probably did to please Kidman and Witherspoon) but also get to have the final cut.

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    I agree that some editing choices have seemed off, but the way Andrea Arnold has filmed this season seems very Big Little Lies-y, which I wonder if is a byproduct of editing in post, her directorial decisions, or both.

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    oh dear.. https://www.indiewire.com/2019/07/big-little-lies-season-2-andrea-arnold-lost-creative-control-jean-marc-vallee-1202156884/

    And now we know why the editing is messy. Such a shame.

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    Before the February order of additional photography started, the Vallée-led direction the show was taking was obvious, but sources close to Arnold say she felt obligated to see it through to the end. While DGA rules required Arnold be the director on set, Vallée was now an extremely hands-on EP dictating not only what would be shot, but how it would be shot, oversight that Arnold never had during the initial shoot. The optics were not lost on many associated with “Big Little Lies”: A show dominated by some of the most powerful actresses in Hollywood hired a fiercely independent woman director – who was now being forced to watch from the director’s chair as scenes were shot in the style of her male predecessor.

    I love Vallée’s work but I’m not surprised he did this. He was pretty hard to work with on Sharp Objects, having to basically be forced by Adams, the rest of the producers, and HBO to actually film the dialogue. I feel so bad for Arnold. No wonder why the style of the show has been feeling so wonky. At least we know whose responsible for that overtly messy ending last week.

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    This explains these 40 minute episodes too

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    there Goes their Emmy sweep. This is a story that Will be brought back to Life next Year during awards season

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    What a mess … How do you guys think this will affect the show in Emmy 2020?

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    Guess the only prize during the main ceremony will be for Mary Louise

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    I mean, I don’t think it was really winning anything to begin with, so I doubt this affects its emmy chances.

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    I think Witherspoon can forget about her acting Emmy. As executive producer she is going to have a hard time explaining this. Kidman won last year and is overshadowed by costars this time, so does not matter for her.

    Also, feel sorry for Arnold.

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    Won’t affect potential acting wins. Technical? Absolutely.

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