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  • Riley
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    It had its moments, but I had a lot of problems with the “USS Callister” writing.

    It’s going to be interesting to see what Black Mirror will do campaign-wise if they want to get their actors nominated because it didn’t work out of Bryce Dallas Howard, except for getting SAG.

    Netflix just really dropped the ball when it campaigning Black Mirror at the Emmys.  Instead of shipping the complete season, they just threw a couple of episodes into their DVD pack of “the rest” of their slate, i.e. the shows that they knew had no chance.

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    Turd Ferguson
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    If they’re smart, they campaign U.S.S. Callister for Movie, Plemmons for Actor, Milioti for Actress, Simpson for Supporting Actor.

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    Macca
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    Just finished watching USS Callister. My question is: When will Netflix announce the airdate for season 1. That was freaking incredible. It was literally Star Trek/Ready player One with three-dimensional characters. My only quibble was that it didn’t have the trademark nihilism of Black Mirror.

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    LaChienne
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    I got San Junipero feels from Hang the DJ, which were welcome even though I felt the majority of the episode outside of the ending was a little weaker than the rest of the episodes. Maybe it’s because this show gets me so cynical that even slightly happy/positive/optimistic episodes (like SJ) turn me off for some reason. Still really liked it, still loving this season so far. Hopefully no Men Against Fires this time around.

    My only quibble was that it didn’t have the trademark nihilism of Black Mirror.

    I felt that way somewhat at first as well, but accepted the **spoilers** probable brain death on Christmas Eve as a bleak/cynical substitute.

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    LaChienne
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    Just finished the season (some spoilers following). I really enjoyed it, though to my surprise my personal rankings of the episodes were numbered exactly the same as last season’s (e.g. favorite being the third and least favorite the fifth). Maybe it’s because I found similar beats throughout this season compared to the last — second episode centered on family, dark and violent third episode about the lead doing increasingly desperate acts to cover a dark secret only to get caught in the last frames, romance-centric breather fourth episode ending on a happy note, grimdark and gory downer fifth episode, twisty and turny finale with a satisfying wrap-up. I’m no expert on what should and will be submitted but my personal ones would be U.S.S. Callister and Crocodile. Solid episodes in writing and acting though the former is probably easier to swallow than the latter.

    My personal rankings of the episodes:

    Crocodile
    U.S.S. Callister
    Black Museum/Hang the DJ
    ArkAngel
    Metalhead

    Black Museum reminded me a bit of White Christmas with all of the different pieces and storylines coming together in the end; really enjoyed it (monkey loves you!). Metalhead was my least favorite of the season, not for its relentless cynicism but I didn’t like their more experimental, offbeat episodes in the past and didn’t like it this time around either. Solid acting from the sole character we’re treated to, but I just never got into the story. Maybe it’s because the series spoiled me with expecting some sort of twist in these kinds of episodes or at the very least an explanation, but I left it feeling kind of blue-balled.

    Still found it a great season. Not sure how I’d rate it among the previous seasons as I would need time to settle in but I’m glad it’s still so consistently good. The only big criticism I’d give it is that it’s a damn miniseries. charlie plz give 10 eps

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    I also just finished and wanted to share some thoughts on how I would rank the episodes (SOME SPOILERS):

    1. U.S.S. Callister — By far my favorite of the season and one of my favorites of the show as a whole. It was beautifully shot and directed, and Plemons, Milioti, and Simpson all gave great performances. It had the classic Black Mirror bleakness in parts, but it also had a healthy dose of levity that it made it that much more enjoyable.

    2. Crocodile — Andrea Riseborough gave a knock-out performance in this episode. It reminded me a lot of Shut Up and Dance from last season. It was the most unsettling episode in my opinion.

    3. Hang the DJ — I really enjoyed this episode although I think it lost itself a little in the end.

    4. Metalhead — This episode was a mixed bag. Although it was lacking in narrative, the performance and direction were both top-notch. It was a simple story that I feel could be fun on a rewatch. It felt very different for a Black Mirror episode.

    5. ArkAngel — I didn’t care much for this episode. I feel like the performances were not up to par with the rest of the show (and I like Rosemarie DeWitt), although the story was intriguing. In many ways, this felt the most like a classic Black Mirror episode, which perhaps made it feel a little too formulaic for my tastes.

    6. Black Museum — Absolutely hated this episode, and I wish I didn’t watch it last to leave me with such a bad taste in my mouth. The ending was somewhat clever I guess, but just… yuck. It felt like such a waste. Oh well.

     

    Overall, I continue to enjoy this show and hope Netflix campaigns for it more so that it can get some awards love.

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    1. Hang the DJ – cute story that had me invested and obviously emotional, great chemistry/rapport between the two leads, reminded me most of Fifteen Million Merits and Nosedive (and San Junipero) which are my top favorites of all time, loved the Truman Show-esque ending and final scene

    2. Crocodile – kind of a conventional concept but so much more with a compelling performance from the underrated chameleon that is Andrea Riseborough, really makes you wonder how far you would go to conceal a secret, scenery was always lovely to look at as well

    3. Black Museum – the preview made me fear that the Isaac Mizrahi tour guide was going to explain the midichlorians of the Black Mirror universe here in a very “There’s a Pizza Planet truck in Finding Nemo” type way so I’m glad that didn’t happen, still wasn’t entirely sold until the amazing ending

    4. USS Callister – seems to be the consensus favorite and I did like it, just felt it was trying to be a little too funny with the F-word like a Marvel movie getting its obligatory swear words in to be cute, I didn’t really feel empathy toward the copies like I do with hosts in Westworld, fun episode though

    5. Arkangel – only really felt like a Black Mirror episode when she kills the mom but that then felt out of place for how humdrum the rest of it was, also I get she was a physical therapist/healthy but did she need to be making a smoothie EVERY time the scene cuts to her

    6. Metalhead – liked the action in the beginning but then it went nowhere, she sits up in the tree like Katniss waiting out Cato and his Career pack before dropping the tracker jackers on them, played out like a basic apocalypse story, why was this in black and white, s/o to the director of Twilight: Eclipse I guess?

    Sidenote – I am growing a bit tired of the “it was all just a simulation” twist* (Playtest, White Christmas, San Junipero, USS Callister, Hang the DJ) and the “viewing or replaying experiences through your or someone else’s eyes” thing (The Entire History of You, Arkangel, Crocodile, Black Museum) but I guess HOW many types of dysmorphic future tech can you really make?

    *I’m aware the simulation aspect isn’t necessarily a twist in ALL of these episodes but it’s still a prevalent plot point. (Also unrelated here but did we need to have TWO examples of a push button ignition vehicle being unable to start so closely together?)

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    Andrew D
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    So i am three in and they are all Spectacular … the best so far being Crocodile

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    Denis
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    USS Calister and Crocodile are phenomenal, I also loved the “Pain addicted” story on “Black Museum”.

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    Stegeo
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    Emmy predictions

    USS Callister

    • Oustanding Television Movie
    • Oustanding Lead Actor  in a Limited Series or Movie: Jesse Plemons
    • Oustanding Lead/Supporting Actress in a Limited Series or Movie: Cristin Milioti (has a good shot in supporting rather than in lead)
    • Oustanding Writing for a Limited Series or Movie
    • Oustanding Hairstyling for a Limited Series or Movie
    • Oustanding Make-Up for a Limited Series or Movie
    • Outstanding Production Design for a Narrative Contemporary/Fantasy Program

    Arkangel

    • Oustanding Directing for a Limited Series or Movie: Jodie Foster

    Black Museum

    • Oustanding Cinematography for a Limited Series or Movie
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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    1-Hang The DJ.- My favorite and is not even close…Great directing from Tim Van Patten and the chemistry between the two leads help to sell the story.

    2-Crocodile.- Intriguing and very well acted

    3-Metalhead.- A little different from other episodes of the show, action packed, suspenseful and with a great performance.

    4-Arkangel.- little predictable but very very well executed

    5-Black Museum.- I didn’t like this episode very much because i’m a little tired of all of the racial victim-hood complex that is so popular these days on almost every tv show, so the story of the doctor and the one with the couple in one brain were very good.

    6-USS Callister.- I found this episode a little tacky and the “homage” to Star Trek not very inspired or even original….It is also predictable.

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    Riley
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    Finished the season.  Like Game of Thrones this year, the show took leaps in logic and logistics like never before, which was disappointing.  It is easy to compare with last season because they structured them so similarly.

    “Nosedive” > “USS Callister”
    “Playtest” > “Arkangel”
    “Shut Up and Dance” > “Crocodile”
    “San Junipero” > “Hang the DJ”
    “Men Against Fire” < “Metalhead”
    “Hated in the Nation” (& “White Christmas”) > “Black Museum”

    The premiere is the one with the flashiest production design and cast with the biggest names, the third episode has an increasingly desperate and murderous protagonist trying to cover-up an initial crime, the fourth episode is the love-centric one with a happy ending and the fifth episode is the semi-post-apocalyptic one with up-close grit.  The finale though instead mirrored the Christmas special, down to the title.  And the second episode is the leftover.

    Even reception to the episodes is the same as last time.  The fourth episode is narrowly the highest-rated, the finale is second-best and the fifth episode is the lowest-rated.

    “Arkangel” seemed the most like it could have come from one of the original seasons, not that it is necessarily a bad thing.  Half the episodes or more this season featured them putting that dot on people’s temples.

    I am a little surprised that after the success of last season, we got people like Jesse Plemons instead of people like Jon Hamm.  Last season had clear acting contenders in Bryce Dallas Howard, Gugu Mbatha-Raw and Kelly Macdonald, whom they did not even submit.  The lesser name recognition this year means that their only real contender is Jesse Plemons and that is only if they push him in supporting.  Most likely though is that nobody is getting nominated.  Jesse Plemons was so much like Matt Damon in that episode, just with less fortunate skin.  I also thought that Georgina Campbell was Tessa Thompson at first.

    They have a bit of a conundrum for directing because the flashiest episode was done by a British director without name recognition.  They might opt to submit Tim Van Patten instead and hey, he does have the best-received episode.  I think that they are in tune with the reception, but you never know.  Charlie Brooker incorrectly forecasted that the premiere would be the favourite.

    Jodie Foster’s directing was perhaps the least showy, but I really appreciated that she shot in standard 16:9 instead of 2:1 because everyone watches Netflix on 16:9 televisions and laptops.  I am indebted to David Slade because of Hannibal, but I find that there is rarely a time when black-and-white is justified, although to be fair, they did take advantage of that specific palette.  It is fun how the directors get to bring their whole teams and have so much autonomy, so I did like how it sounded like Hannibal with similar music.

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    Jesse Plemons was so much like Matt Damon in that episode, just with less fortunate skin. I also thought that Georgina Campbell was Tessa Thompson at first

    Do we share the same mind?

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    Andrew D
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    The best episode by far was Crocodile

    then the order for me is

    USS Callister
    Hang the DJ
    Black Museaum
    Ark Angel
    Metal head

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    Award Chaos
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    We have 19 episodes now. This is an awards website. The correct thing is to do my Black Mirror nominations:

    BEST EPISODE
    Be Right Back
    Hang The DJ
    Hated in the Nation
    San Junipero
    USS Callister

    BEST DIRECTOR
    Owen Harris – San Junipero
    James Hawes – Hated in the Nation
    Toby Haynes – USS Callister
    Euros Lyn – Fifteen Million Merits
    Carl Tibbetts – White Bear

    BEST ACTOR
    Daniel Kaluuya – Fifteen Million Merits
    Toby Kebbell – The Entire History of You
    Rory Kinnear – The National Anthem
    Alex Lawther – Shut Up And Dance
    Jesse Plemons – USS Callister

    BEST ACTRESS
    Hayley Atwell – Be Right Back
    Georgina Campbell – Hang the DJ
    Bryce Dallas Howard – Nosedive
    Kelly McDonald – Hated in the Nation
    Cristin Milioti – USS Callister
    Andrea Riseborough – Crocodile

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
    Domhnall Gleeson – Be Right Back
    Tobias Menzies – The Waldo Moment
    Jimmi Simpson – USS Callister
    Rafe Spall – White Christmas
    Benedic Wong – Hated in the Nation

    BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
    Michaela Coel – USS Callister
    Lindsay Duncan – The National Anthem
    Cherry Jones – Nosedive
    Faye Marsay – Hated in the Nation
    Kiran Sonia Sawar – Crocodile

    BEST SCREENPLAY
    Be Right Back
    Hated in the Nation
    Nosedive
    San Junipero
    USS Callister

    BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
    Metalhead
    Nosedive
    San Junipero
    USS Callister
    White Bear

    BEST EDITING
    Fifteen Million Merits
    Men Against Fire
    San Junipero
    White Bear
    USS Callister

    BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
    Be Right Back
    Crocodile
    Fifteen Million Merits
    Hang the DJ
    Nosedive

    BEST ART DIRECTION
    Fifteen Million Merits
    Nosedive
    San Junipero
    USS Callister
    White Christmas

    BEST COSTUME DESIGN
    Fifteen Million Merits
    Nosedive
    San Junipero
    USS Callister
    White Bear

    Totals:
    USS Callister: 11
    Nosedive: 8
    San Junipero: 7
    Hated in the Nation: 6
    Fifteen Million Merits: 6
    Be Right Back: 5
    White Bear: 4
    Hang The DJ: 3
    Crocodile: 3
    The National Anthem: 2
    White Christmas: 2
    The Entire History of You: 1
    Shut Up And Dance: 1
    The Waldo Moment: 1
    Metalhead: 1
    Men Against Fire: 1
    Playtest: 0
    Arkangel: 0
    Black Museum: 0

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