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  • PoweR
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    What exactly was the “physical evidence” that linked the boys to the rape victim?

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    “Relevant forensic evidence concerning the presence of hair, blood and semen on some of the defendants’ clothing was presented at trial and has not been refuted. In particular, hair “consistent” with the female jogger’s hair was found on the clothing of Richardson and co-defendant Steven Lopez; blood stains were found on Santana’s right sneaker, Salaam’s jacket and on co-defendant Lopez’s underwear, and semen stains were found on the underwear of McCray and Richardson, and on Santana’s sweatshirt.”

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    From the various accounts that Matias Reyes has given in different interviews that we have been able to review, there have been significant problems or inconsistencies in his description of the details of the attack and subsequent events. In addition, several statements were made by witnesses to officers investigating the incident and by the defendants, speaking outside the formal interrogation process, which directly contradict Reyes’s claim that he acted alone, and evidence the participation of the defendants. They include inculpatory statements by defendants Wise, Richardson and Santana both to police officers and to civilian witnesses who reported the statements to police. Santana and Richardson separately pointed out the location of the rape when brought to Central Park. When Wise was questioned, he made reference to a man named “Rudy” who took the jogger’s Walkman; the description of the jogger’s “Walkman pouch” was similar to Reyes’s description of a “fanny pack.” At the time of this interview, the police had no way of knowing that the jogger had a Walkman or that she carried it in a pouch. Wise also commented on the amount of blood at the spot where the rape occurred. When asked why he was so surprised by the amount of blood, he answered, “I knew she was bleeding but I didn’t know how bad she was. It was really dark. I couldn’t see how much blood there was at night.”

    Please tell me how Korey Wise was “coerced” to tell the police about a fanny pack they knew nothing about until it was brought up again years later by Reyes. The police actually had to go back to their notes to realize that Korey brought it up years earlier.

    And btw, the lead cop in the case was black.

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    “Relevant forensic evidence concerning the presence of hair, blood and semen on some of the defendants’ clothing was presented at trial and has not been refuted. In particular, hair “consistent” with the female jogger’s hair was found on the clothing of Richardson and co-defendant Steven Lopez; blood stains were found on Santana’s right sneaker, Salaam’s jacket and on co-defendant Lopez’s underwear, and semen stains were found on the underwear of McCray and Richardson, and on Santana’s sweatshirt.”

    Why is consistent in quotes? Was the hair hers or not?

    And in that excerpt, it does not say that the blood stains were from her. And them having semen on their underwear does not prove that it was related to the rape of that woman. I find it hard to believe that semen was found all over these teenager boys, but none of their semen was found at the crime scene or on the victim.

    Just like you like to believe inconsistencies pointed out by articles against these men, there are other articles and documentaries before this series that point out the inconsistencies in defense of these men. I know you like to be the contrarian around here, but this doesn’t prove anything.

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    Thank God that we have an ignore button.

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    The rape victim was found at 1am. A few of the boys were brought into the station hours before. Yet the police coerced them into confessing to a crime that they were not even yet aware of?

    Linda Fairstein is depicted in the movie as being at the station that night but she didn’t even arrive until the next day.

    Kevin Richardson is depicted in the movie as having a swollen eye, supposedly caused by a cop. In the real life photo of Richardson at the police station, there is no swollen eye.

    Korey Wise’s female friend testified for the prosecution that Korey admitted to her that he held down the rape victim’s legs when the attack happened. Let me guess. The police coerced her into doing that too?

    Defenders of the Central Park Five likewise point out that no traces of DNA from the boys’ hair, sweat, saliva, or skin had been found on the victim either. But as Ann Coulter wrote in 2018: “Today, these kids’ DNA would have been found all over the crime scene. But in 1989, DNA was a primitive science. Most cops wouldn’t have even bothered collecting samples for DNA tests back then.” Indeed, the development of a national DNA database enabling investigators to identify perpetrators by matching their genetic materials to those collected from other crime scenes, would not even begin until several years later.

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    I didn’t know Linda Fairstein was a Goldderby member.

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    Thank god I knew Linda was going to be trouble as soon as I posted my response earlier and put her on Ignore then.

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    Lol, good to know DuVernay is just as bland and unremarkable when making television as she is when working in film.

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    After reading the Armstrong Report, I now believe the men ARE guilty. This is the second time that Netflix has made a series proclaiming the innocence of folks who are guilty. Sighs! I still want Jharrel to win but this series is a crock.

    All your comments are pathetic and disgusting. If you know anything about sex at all, and specifically rape, is the al men usually always ejaculate. 90% of men only need 1 or 2 minutes to ejaculate if they do not care about the woman/man and if they do not not try to control themselves, to think that only 1 of 6 ejaculated is laughable. Why would Reyes take the fault by himself? How was he able to do the other three rapes by himself, but he needed help only for this one? Why neither one of the five men tried to received less time and using their chance of parole by accepting their fault? Especially Korey? You must try to develop the skill of logic. Your claims are the joke of the century.

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    All your comments are pathetic and disgusting. If you know anything about sex at all, and specifically rape, is the al men usually always ejaculate. 90% of men only need 1 or 2 minutes to ejaculate if they do not care about the woman/man and if they do not not try to control themselves, to think that only 1 of 6 ejaculated is laughable. Why would Reyes take the fault by himself? How was he able to do the other three rapes by himself, but he needed help only for this one? Why neither one of the five men tried to received less time and using their chance of parole by accepting their fault? Especially Korey? You must try to develop the skill of logic. Your claims are the joke of the century.

    I can tell that reading is definitely hard for some. The “unknown semen” found on the victim turned out to be a match to Matias Reyes. In 1989, DNA testing wasn’t even a thing yet. The semen from the other boys were found in their underwear.

    It’s exhausting even having a conversation with people who won’t take the time to actually research the case instead of taking the word of the poor defenseless teenage boys who were beating people in the park.

    These men themselves told the cops about a rape that the cops were not even aware of and why is that? The victim was found hours after!

    Matias Reyes, a serial killer and rapist, is hardly a credible witness. He told his fellow inmate that he heard the screams of the woman and then joined in on the fun. Then he confessed that he acted alone? But Ava doesn’t mention in her film that he was afraid of Korey Wise’s prison gang. The same Korey who told the cops about the fanny pack that they didn’t even know was stolen.

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    I can tell that reading is definitely hard for some. The “unknown semen” found on the victim turned out to be a match to Matias Reyes. In 1989, DNA testing wasn’t even a thing yet. The semen from the other boys were found in their underwear.

    It’s exhausting even having a conversation with people who won’t take the time to actually research the case instead of taking the word of the poor defenseless teenage boys who were beating people in the park.

    These men themselves told the cops about a rape that the cops were not even aware of and why is that? The victim was found hours after!

    Matias Reyes, a serial killer and rapist, is hardly a credible witness. He told his fellow inmate that he heard the screams of the woman and then joined in on the fun. Then he confessed that he acted alone? But Ava doesn’t mention in her film that he was afraid of Korey Wise’s prison gang. The same Korey who told the cops about the fanny pack that they didn’t even know was stolen.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Almost none of what you said is true and you were not able to answer none of my arguments. You are really a waste of time.

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    I can tell that reading is definitely hard for some. The “unknown semen” found on the victim turned out to be a match to Matias Reyes. In 1989, DNA testing wasn’t even a thing yet. The semen from the other boys were found in their underwear.

    And again, what exactly does this prove? Matias Reyes committed the crime because his semen was found on the victim. The other boys having semen in their underwear could be unrelated to that woman. Teenage boys do have sex.

    If the semen found in their underwear was related to the victim, chances are it would have been all over the crime scene or the victim. There are too many inconsistencies in this case (which is probably because you had too many different accounts of what happened that night – a classic case of “too many hands in the cookie jar”), but none of the ACTUAL evidence found could be used against the men today. That’s why they’re getting this attention. And the other happenings in that park that night also do not prove that they raped that woman. Deal with it and move on, contrarian.

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    Some of the defendants have repeated their admissions of guilt. Santana testified at a parole hearing in 1994 and he was questioned about the crimes he committed on April 19th, 1989. He admitted that he and his friends planned to go to the park that night to rob and assault people. He stated that about seven or eight friends devised the plan. They were prepared to attack whoever they encountered that night in the park. Santana reiterated that they had let one, a couple, go because the man was with his girlfriend. Santana also admitted to beating a man. He denied only the rape.

    When McCray went before the parole board in November 1994, he admitted all of his crimes except for the rape of the female jogger. Two of the defendants, Raymond Santana and Kevin Richardson, during interviews conducted by detectives in 2002, admitted their participation in the assaults that did not involve the jogger.

    In the first major event, the assault on Antonio Diaz, a total of 23 people were named as participants or as being present. All five defendants were implicated by accomplices and two admitted participation. The second major event was harassment of a couple on a tandem bike. A total of 13 people were named participants or as being present; four of the defendants were implicated by accomplices and admitted participation.

    The third major event was crossing the 96th Street Transverse road to the reservoir. A total of 17 people were identified as having gone south towards the reservoir. All five defendants were implicated by accomplices and admitted going. The fourth major event was the assault on jogger David Lewis. A total of 11 people were identified as participants or as being present. Four of the defendants were implicated by accomplices and one admitted participation.

    The fifth major event was the assault on jogger John Loughlin, who was very badly beaten. A total of 19 people were identified as participants or as being present. All five defendants were implicated by accomplices and three admitted participation.

    Yes these poor innocent boys were eating popsicles and did nothing in the park that night.

    And Power is still obsessed with the fact that my opinions don’t match his.

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