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Claire Foy or Vanessa Kirby
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  • Mukund
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    #1202602902

    People loved Claire Foy in S1 of The Crown and even more in S2. Vanessa Kirby also garnered immense praise for her performance, especially in S2, where I was surprised to find many people claim that they thought Kirby stole the show.

    So, if only won of them could win, whom would you vote for?

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    Diet Teridax
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    If only 1 of them could win then definitely 100% Vanessa Kirby. I feel like Claire Foy is from what I’ve seen a far more versatile actress, more chameleonic, but I think that’s just because I’ve seen in her in more roles than Kirby. I would vote Kirby of the Supporting Actress nominees hands down, while choosing Foy over her fellow nominees is tougher. I still haven’t actually watched Orphan Black, The Americans, or Killing Eve, found Evan Rachel Wood far better in last season of Westworld, and while Moss was great early in THT Season 2, I felt she just started doing the same thing over and over again until I got bored of her performance and character. Foy was given way better scripts throughout the season than Moss was, but I would still choose Foy simply to spread the wealth.

    I think with Foy she always needed to be given the material to shine, otherwise she would just be there with a blank face, trying her best to act subtle. In Season 1 I didn’t think she was given anything to do of interest. In Season 2 she was given way more material to work with and excelled. I prefer Kirby since from what I’ve seen even when there isn’t any interesting or layered material for her to work with, in spite of her not seeming to have as much range, she always lit up the screen as her stubborn, vulnerable, and utterly fascinating character.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    forwardswill
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    #1202602905

    Maybe move this to the television forum so it gets more traction? Would be great to see what people think. It’s Foy in a heartbeat for me but I’m betting people go for Kirby because “Beryl” sticks so much in the memory.

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    Mukund
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    Maybe move this to the television forum so it gets more traction?

    Done. 🙂

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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    FYC Oscars 2019: Viola Davis (Widows) - Best Actress

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    Mukund
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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

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    Macca
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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

    Honestly this. Kirby is the most deserving, Newton and Headey would be OK since I’d see their wins as make-up wins for stellar past seasons. I don’t want THT to win anything so the showrunners really get the message that their show is derailing rapidly. Brown is shit.

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    Kirby has my heart.

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    Diet Teridax
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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

    I personally thought Dowd was the best of the nominees last year, with Newton as my 2nd fave. The year before that I found Maggie Smith an unnecessary 2nd time victor. I would much rather Headey have won for “The Winds of Winter,” she was very impressive in that. The year before that I correctly predicted Uzo Aduba would win because I knew she had the best episode submission by far out of all the nominees. Headey didn’t do shit in “Mother’s Mercy.” She was humiliated with that walk of shame but I still think she screwed up by not submitting “The Gift” where she had more emotional range and screen time. Even that was nowhere near as powerful and impactful a showcase as Aduba got with “Hugs Can Be Deceiving.” I haven’t seen Breaking Bad but I’ve never heard anyone complain about either of Anna Gunn wins. I’ve had no real issues with most of the Drama Supporting Actress lineup, especially not these past few years.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    Diet Teridax
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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

    Honestly this. Kirby is the most deserving, Newton and Headey would be OK since I’d see their wins as make-up wins for stellar past seasons. I don’t want THT to win anything so the showrunners really get the message that their show is derailing rapidly. Brown is shit.

    Kirby should win on episode submission and seasonal impact overall. I actually recall her 1 scene in “Mystery Man” as well. I can’t remember what she did, but I swear her presence is just uncanny. I mean this as a compliment, she reminds me of one of those “golden age of Hollywood” stars one would see in films from the 50’s or 40’s, a very glamourous yet transfixing kind of beauty rarely seen in modern movies and television anymore, in my opinion. I’m thinking of someone like Barbra Stanwyck or Eva Marie Saint or Elizabeth Taylor, only a much more believable actress than the latter. Hard to describe, but I did my best. I think THT could win Cinematography and Guest Actress, but if the show gets shut out in the major Emmy categories then that would be message enough, if someone like even Moss loses.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

    I personally thought Dowd was the best of the nominees last year, with Newton as my 2nd fave. The year before that I found Maggie Smith an unnecessary 2nd time victor. I would much rather Headey have won for “The Winds of Winter,” she was very impressive in that. The year before that I correctly predicted Uzo Aduba would win because I knew she had the best episode submission by far out of all the nominees. Headey didn’t do shit in “Mother’s Mercy.” She was humiliated with that walk of shame but I still think she screwed up by not submitting “The Gift” where she had more emotional range and screen time. Even that was nowhere near as powerful and impactful a showcase as Aduba got with “Hugs Can Be Deceiving.” I haven’t seen Breaking Bad but I’ve never heard anyone complain about either of Anna Gunn wins. I’ve had no real issues with most of the Drama Supporting Actress lineup, especially not these past few years.

    I meant specifically the past three years. I have no problem with Gunn’s victories. She deserved both of them. I am not a fan of Smith’s second and third wins as well those of Aduba and Dowd. I thought every other person in 2016 was deserving more than Smith. I was disappointed with Dowd’s win because I thought Strahovski and Brewer were better than her and weren’t even nominated. Her performance was good but the best of the year? Certainly not.

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    I cannot choose, both are incredibly deserving. I refuse to choose between the two. IMO both had a stronger S2 than S1.

    They both are outstanding. If one of them doesn’t win, I am gonna be extremely disappointed. After what a blunder Supporting Actress has been for the past few years, I hope they award someone deserving this time around.

    I personally thought Dowd was the best of the nominees last year, with Newton as my 2nd fave. The year before that I found Maggie Smith an unnecessary 2nd time victor. I would much rather Headey have won for “The Winds of Winter,” she was very impressive in that. The year before that I correctly predicted Uzo Aduba would win because I knew she had the best episode submission by far out of all the nominees. Headey didn’t do shit in “Mother’s Mercy.” She was humiliated with that walk of shame but I still think she screwed up by not submitting “The Gift” where she had more emotional range and screen time. Even that was nowhere near as powerful and impactful a showcase as Aduba got with “Hugs Can Be Deceiving.” I haven’t seen Breaking Bad but I’ve never heard anyone complain about either of Anna Gunn wins. I’ve had no real issues with most of the Drama Supporting Actress lineup, especially not these past few years.

    I meant specifically the past three years. I have no problem with Gunn’s victories. She deserved both of them. I am not a fan of Smith’s second and third wins as well those of Aduba and Dowd. I thought every other person in 2016 was deserving more than Smith. I was disappointed with Dowd’s win because I thought Strahovski and Brewer were better than her and weren’t even nominated. Her performance was good but the best of the year? Certainly not.

    Brewer was very good and Strahovski was excellent. For me, just the menace yet occasional genuine caring for the women shown by Aunt Lydia made her a truly fascinating villain for me. I was really let down by how in Season 2 the writers really didn’t do much to develop her character, if anything. Seriously, I know I wasn’t the only THT stan who not only wanted, but was actually expecting some kind of complex and emotional backstory to her character, especially after Dowd won the Emmy! I will defend her Emmy for Season 1 based on how many layers she impressively pulled off with the material she was given, but as I’ve said multiple times by now, I do not think she needs another Emmy for this role. 1 was enough, now hopefully the actors branch Emmy voters will spread the wealth to Kirby or… just Vanessa Kirby on merit alone to be honest. Headey was most deserving for Season 6 and they blew that one, and even then I was in the minority as having Williams for her performance in “No One” as my personal fave of all those nominees. Brewer was very good in Season 1, better in Season 2, but the thing about Dowd that stands out to me is that she made such an interesting character with so much less material to work with. She perfectly captured my interest among that ensemble and evidently Emmy actors branch voters felt the same way. I also do not believe Ann Dowd’s Emmy win was for her career, otherwise they could have just awarded her in Guest for The Leftovers and given Supporting Actress to someone else, and especially in hindsight Alexis Bledel really did earn that award.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    Alexis Bledel really did earn that award.

    Of THT’s eight wins last year, I feel that one was the most deserving. Absolutely loved her performance. The stoning sequence in the finale and Emily’s van sequence were my two favourite moments from the show. Beautifully directed and acted.

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    Diet Teridax
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    Why does this need to be an actual poll? They are both in separate categories, both have a chance at winning (yes, even Foy) and would both make such deserving winners that would hold up well. “Beryl” was beautiful but don’t underrate “Dear Mrs. Kennedy.” That dance scene with Elizabeth and that African leader guy whose name I can’t recall, but that was just so hypnotically done. “They’re doing the foxtrot.” Those guys are on the other line looking baffled and worried about the whole thing, meanwhile Elizabeth gets to feel genuinely accomplished, like she is contributing something, and that her status as the Queen isn’t just a title, but a true privilege she is using to make a difference in the world at large. All due to the American First Lady Jackie Kennedy said some snide comments about her and Buckingham Palace (I think) when she was under the influence of some… special drugs, let’s just say. The episode really gave her a solid arc, all leading up to her showing her begin her letter “Dear Mrs. Kennedy” after JFK was killed, symbolizing her forgiveness. I don’t consider The Crown a primary source for any kind of historical accuracy, but as far as the character of Queen Elizabeth is concerned, beneath all those fancy outfits and high-society manners and occasional moments of elitism, she really does have a good heart. My life is so full of books and movies and TV that I never have time to re-watch episodes of TV, but “Dear Mrs. Kennedy” is one that I definitely would love to re-watch one of these days. By the way, that episode got robbed badly for “Drama Episode” at the Goldderby TV Awards this year. Just a friendly reminder about that. I would have nominated it over “Beyond the Wall” any day, which had amazing special effects and atmosphere but a less than stellar script.

    Note to myself: Don’t ever feed the trolls. Don’t get involved in others drama. Don’t let myself be swayed by others predictions, trust my gut more often!

    Note to all others: If you don’t happen to like me, ignore me. It is that simple.

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    Personally, I love both actresses and am really rooting for them to have successful careers. While I love Kirby’s Margaret, Foy’s depiction of Elizabeth was so spot on in terms of her mannerisms and voice, and at the same time, displayed a more vulnerable side to the queen that was so intriguing.

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