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September 14, 2019 at 8:26 pm #1203075514
Roma should’ve been eligible if Free Solo was…
Unpopular opinion but Roma should have contended at the Emmys even if it’s some masterpiece filmaking. Its consumption wasn’t on cinema, it was at people’s home by streaming.
They really need to pick up the line with this, unless streaming becomes really really huge and dominant of a market that results its own award show (that would maybe murder the Emmys at once but whatever).
But otherwise it’s ridiculous how they’re fluiding so eaisly on where they want to contend. There are different awards for a reason, and that reason is medium of comsumptionSeptember 14, 2019 at 8:27 pm #1203075516
Given this year was the first time Netflix was nominated in either animated series category, I’m gonna assume the Bojack snub was down to bias over the platform more than the show.
Yes, Love Death and Robots won, but it also picked up 4 juried awards which likely compelled them to take noticeSeptember 14, 2019 at 8:40 pm #1203075542
Lemonade should have won tons of emmys but I’m not sure Homecoming is really on that level. Personally I didn’t even watch it and I’m not sure it can be called a cultural phenomenon.
You didn’t watch it but you’re not sure it’s “on that level”. Well it is. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if she got another Peabody nomination for it.
It means she’s a music artist and she probably doesn’t give a fuck about emmys because she has so many awards already. And an emmy isn’t going to do anything to her legacy. Years after she’s dead (if she’s mortal) people will remember her Grammys and music awards, not whether or not she won an emmy.
Yes it will add to her legacy as an award winning filmmaker. Beyoncé is a multifaceted artist and not just a singer. And who is to say she wouldn’t be remembered for an esteemed award such as the Emmy? For cultural phenomenons such as the very popular album + film Lemonade and Homecoming, which features probably the most iconic music performance/ concert of the decade? I’m pretty sure millions of people around the world know Adele is an Oscar winner, even though she’s just a “music artist”.September 14, 2019 at 9:17 pm #1203075581
Honey, Beyoncé did NOT win any Emmys. So much for that EGOT. Hahahaha!!!September 14, 2019 at 9:23 pm #1203075596
I feel like we get a different mindset every year of this new system. It seemed at first like the Emmys had no idea what year it was and that they just liked certain people for their roles overall. The first year of the plurality vote awarded Tatiana Maslany, Ben Mendelsohn, Margo Martindale and others who had done award-worthy work, but not in that particular year. Then the Emmys were hyper aware of what year it was last year. I always bring up the switch from Elisabeth Moss to Claire Foy, but we also saw it in categories like variety special writing. I thought that Patton Oswalt would continue to win off sympathy, but the Emmys had apparently taken care of him sufficiently with the previous win, so they moved on to a special that they actually liked last year. And regardless of their merit, all of the Anthony Bourdain wins last year very much only could have happened last year.
The winners this year are a mixed bag. We continued to see awards shows lose variety special to the flavour of the moment, but The Simpsons won for the first time in over a decade. Bourdain did not come close to a sweep, but he still won a couple, including the big one over the buzzed-about Surviving R. Kelly. Drag Race was down slightly to recognize a weaker season, but they went back to Seth MacFarlane. Saturday Night Live also did not do as well to correlate with its quality, but James Corden rebounded after falling last year. Yes, Corden had more buzz this year, but that should have been offset by the age of his gimmick. Consider how the Oscars had a good year, but that show is far from fresh, so nobody cared. They awarded Love, Death & Robots, but Corden and SNL each somehow managed to win somewhere that they never had before.
Maybe the takeaway overall is something that we saw across the drama nominations. Whatever was hot last year has kind of had its moment, but instead of moving onto something new, the Emmys do not care much for the new crop, so we see them defaulting to stuff that seems pretty tired that they might even feel is pretty tired.
The Emmys are not patently rejecting new stuff. They loved Free Solo, but they did not particularly care for the other new documentaries. Bourdain lost to Free Solo every time that it was nominated against it and it won every category in which it did not compete against Free Solo. So I think that you can say that this adds to the narrative that the Emmys rejected the new dramas, but like the fresh comedies. They will move on from The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel because they have a Free Solo in Fleabag (and maybe Barry), but will be unable to with Game of Thrones because the new dramas are Surviving R. Kelly. They had buzz and potential, but the academy in particular did not really care and it came up short in individual achievement categories. I could also see Game of Thrones being an SNL. It still dominates in nominations and it even randomly picks up a new award, but it is again loses to a variety of shows in various categories and even loses a couple of awards that it won last year.September 14, 2019 at 9:27 pm #1203075600
Honey, they keep shading the fuck out of Angela Bassett. She should’ve been an Emmy winner by now.September 14, 2019 at 9:36 pm #1203075627
I’m pretty sure millions of people around the world know Adele is an Oscar winner, even though she’s just a “music artist”.
lmfao, Beyonce winning an emmy for music direction or variety special isn’t the same thing as winning an Oscar. You Beyonce “stans” sure are insecure if you think her legacy needs an emmy.
Honey, they keep shading the fuck out of Angela Bassett. She should’ve been an Emmy winner by now.
She was never beating Attenborough. If she wins an emmy, it should be for a major acting award, not narration.September 14, 2019 at 10:24 pm #1203075680
Free Solo – 7
Queer Eye – 4
Saturday Night Live – 4
Carpool Karaoke – 3
Rupaul’s Drag Race – 3
Anthony Bourdain’s Parts Unknown – 2
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver – 2
Our Planet – 2
RENT – 2
United Shades of America with W Kamau Bell – 2September 14, 2019 at 10:42 pm #1203075702
September 14, 2019 at 10:45 pm #1203075706
Whatever bile I will spew about the Oscars voters, they at least aren’t as dumb as Emmy voters. The Academy only picked Boss Baby to get nominated. The Simpsons winning over Bojack Horseman is like giving Boss Baby the WIN.
also something something Matt Groening connection to Epstein something something follow the money
For Your Consideration:
Best Picture: Weathering With You, Parasite, The Lighthouse
Best Actor: Robert Pattison - The Lighthouse
Best Supporting Actor: Willem Dafoe - The Lighthouse
Best Animated Feature: Weathering With You, Promare
Best International Film: Weathering With You, Parasite
Do my forum games!
https://www.goldderby.com/forum/games-lets-play-games/72nd-oscars-runner-up-5-elimination-September 14, 2019 at 10:47 pm #1203075711
Hannah Gadsby winning for writing for that special is both deserved and quite profound given the challenging content of it, and I am pretty pleased they went that way.September 14, 2019 at 10:55 pm #1203075734
She was never beating Attenborough.
I predicted him, but he only won his first Emmy last year. My score is not going to be great, but at least I was right about the Emmys not having sympathy for Beyoncé. Happy that Justin Theroux is now an Emmy winner after not even being nominated for The Leftovers, but why did he not attend?
Among the most baffling wins of the night was Springsteen on Broadway in directing. I do not know what to make of that, but hopefully the directors’ branch has more tricks up their sleeves, particularly in the other variety directing category. Documentary Now!, Drunk History and Who is America? all failed to get on the board tonight, but it bodes poorly for Do Roy King that SNL it lost technical direction to Last Week Tonight out of nowhere. That is still a show about a guy who sits at a desk, right? How did SNL hang on to lighting? That is a category that it won for the first time ever last year. Anyway, I am moving Last Week Tonight up to second in directing. Documentary Now! and Who is America? are going to pull more votes from SNL than it and the people who voted for Full Frontal and The Late Late Show last year are more likely to transfer their votes to it than SNL.
The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is weaker after tonight. It was strong enough last year to get Alex Borstein a voice win, which she did not repeat and we already saw it fail to have enough of a surplus to get Rachel Brosnahan into guest actress. So not only does it definitely not have a surplus of support, but as we know from writing, it did not even max out itself.
With Gay of Thrones and The Last Watch, Game of Thrones had two opportunities to demonstrate a surplus tonight and it did not, even with the assistance of Queer Eye. Then again, Drag Race is yet to win for a tie-in and that has not stopped it.
Fosse/Verdon was a mixed bag. It being a flavour of the moment was enough for music direction, kind of like how Rent won over the Grammys and Oscars in a couple of categories, but support for Fosse/Verdon was not broad enough for it to win in short form. John Oliver seemed to be making gains by winning technical direction for the first time, but it lost interactive because a flavour of the month was nominated against it and that does not normally happen there. So beware of vote-splitting and passion carrying a fringe contender.September 14, 2019 at 10:58 pm #1203075743
Bassett was never happening. Y’all predicted her cuz she’s overdue when voters couldn’t care less especially in the narrator category lol. The Our Planet Sir (I can’t spell his name, sorry lol) was winning it in a landslide especially when Our Planet was coming for a sweep.September 14, 2019 at 11:22 pm #1203075772
Free Solo isn’t even that good. It really only deserves cinematography but even then Our Planet is probably better.
Yeah, I don’t get all of this Free Solo love from the Academy. It was good, not amazing. I guess because it won the Oscar, people just checked the name. It shouldn’t even have won the Oscar. The Oscar should have gone to Won’t You Be My Neighbor? which they completely snubbed.
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