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    Obviously the political context influenced the nominations but y’all need to stop acting as if it’s a bad thing. White people will have other chances don’t worry.

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    Exactly!

    I’m not saying that any particular nomination this year was a handout. But the notion that some voters pull out their ballots and go down the list checking off black names as their first priority, rather than their favorite performances as their first priority, trivializes the deserving black nominees.

    And why you are so sure they did that? Probably they just reminded that they need to recognize more than white people.

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    I’m not saying that any particular nomination this year was a handout. But the notion that some voters pull out their ballots and go down the list checking off black names as their first priority, rather than their favorite performances as their first priority, trivializes the deserving black nominees.

    But isn’t that what white voters do? Go down the list and skip any and all black names? Imagine how trivialized hundreds of black performers feel.

    And why can’t the 10 black names I ticked off be my favorite performances of the year? That’s not fathomable? Because I’m a black voter, I can’t vote for my 20 favorite black performances?

    I do it. Proudly. The Independent Spirit Awards. Gold Derby Awards. The few other awards circles I am part of and get invited to.

    We treading on dangerous territory here.

    Can we just let Samira Wiley have her flowers please? PLEASE?

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    Can we just let Samira Wiley have her flowers please? PLEASE?

    I still don’t like this nomination, but Wiley should have won in 2017 for Orange is the New Black (I know she was nominated for THT, but still), so I guess it evens out lol.

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    Goldderby has always been a place for racists to log in and out whenever they want to but over the past few years, it has become a cesspool of that racist bullshit and I don’t know why. Maybe ’cause the mods don’t give a shit and just let anyone pop in and out.

    It’s just hilarious to me that the same ones defending the white sheen of Oscar/BAFTA nominees last season with the “maybe all of their performances were just better” are now bitter because black/POC have gotten their shine across the board for the Emmys. Now, it’s “oh they are only nominated because of BLM and other political reasons. The Emmys have never done that before so how dare they do that now?” Baby, maybe they just liked their performances BETTER? I can play the same game too.

    People like Don Cheadle, Andre Braugher, Samira Wiley, and Giancarlo Esposito aren’t filling a quota, they are actors who are just very liked by the voters that have become a namecheck and honestly? So what? At this point, nobody said shit about Margo Martindale, Cherry Jones, Claire Danes being namechecked to fill a “white women” quota so why does the narrative change now?

    And even though I didn’t love Euphoria, I love the Zendaya nod because it shows that they went out of their way to vote for someone who isn’t the typical perennial “black” nominee. She wasn’t an easy vote and as deserving as Viola Davis is, it shows that she isn’t “THE ONLY BLACK ACTRESS” they can recognize. So if you’re hot and bothered, turn on the AC and stay in the damn house. You’ll just be cold and mad, I guess.

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    Chile, only 33% of the acting nominees are black. Reading some of the replies you’d assume it’s 90%. This should actually be the norm. Also the bigger problem is how the most important roles in the biggest movies are almost always given to white people. That has to change too.

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    Not to mention, these nominations have so rarely been based on quality alone? Not every POC nominated would be my personal choice, but white people have been getting nothing nominations for years based on some tepid narrative. It’s refreshing for POC performers not to have to break their damn back campaigning and have 10x the performance of their white counterparts to be one of the few to get a nomination as was the case earlier this decade.

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    Chile, only 33% of the acting nominees are black. Reading some of the replies you’d assume it’s 90%. This should actually be the norm. Also the bigger problem is how the most important roles in the biggest movies are almost always given to white people. That has to change too.

    I actually think they can go ahead and give white actors any role they want. Some films and scripts really don’t need a token black or Asian actor just to appease the mob. An all white casted film is quite alright. All stories deserve to be told. I would absolutely hate it if they go and cast a black or Asian actor in Succession just to be woke and appease to the grunts about it being “so white”.

    What needs to happen is give the multiple POC films that get released each year a chance. People acting like black, Asian and Latino films aren’t being made. They are! And they contain a multitude of amazing performances that deserve awards recognition.

    How about stop forcing people to go see the umpteenth coming-of-age tale of the suburban white teenager, and rather tweet and promote the multiple POC made independent films that gets released every year.

    Less guilting people to watch Booksmart and rather showing that same energy for films like The Last Black Man in San Francisco, LUCE, Clemency, Waves and Atlantics. It’s nice to see how woke you are in your rave review of Waves, now how about you putting your mouth to work and actually encourage your colleagues and audience to go support it. And not go and ignore it come Awards season when you vote for your best of the year.

    Just Mercy was considered “too traditional and melodramatic”, yet Bombshell was some shining light of sophistication?

    POC centred films are being made. Hollywood, film critics and awards bodies just need to give them a damn chance.

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    My plan was not to watch many Oscar films this year.  Then I caved and watched the Oscar films.  Then I even watched Oscar-snubbed films.  In a short span, I saw AtlanticsBurning CaneThe FarewellQueen & Slim and Waves.  I noticed a pattern.

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    It´s sad than only Alexis Bledel is the only latin person who got nominated. And probably mostly no one knows that she is so.

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