March 19, 2015 at 4:32 pm #344181
Does the science fiction curse hurt Game Of Thrones. Science fiction like Game of thrones has never won before. You have Lost but Thrones is totally different? So what do y’all think does the curse hurt it or not?March 19, 2015 at 5:27 pm #344183
I don’t consider Game of Thrones to be science fiction. Does anyone else?March 19, 2015 at 5:28 pm #344184
I thought Game of Thrones was fantasy.March 19, 2015 at 7:10 pm #344185
No, I don’t think it does. I think the heavy serialized nature of the show is what truly hurts it. I think w/out watching the entire season it could come across as confusing and melodramatic?March 19, 2015 at 7:28 pm #344186
But, haven’t all the best dramas in recent years been heavily serialized? Breaking Bad, Homeland, Mad Men, Sopranos? You’d be confused and lost on any of those without watching the whole season. At least, I would have.
The fantasy aspect probably hurts more than the serialized aspect. Not that either should be a detriment.March 19, 2015 at 8:13 pm #344187
I doubt it. They’ve given it a big win before.March 19, 2015 at 8:18 pm #344188
Game of Thrones is much more serialized than Breaking Bad, Mad Men, or Sopranos ever were. Episodes mean little to GOT. There are a number of storylines and they’re all heavily serialized. BB, MM, and Sopranos at least had specific storylines for episodes, even though there were arcs and such that went from episode to episode.
The best comparison to GOT would be Lost post-season 1, i.e. all the seasons that didn’t win Best Drama. Heavily serialized and increasingly fantastical. These are pretty damning for Emmy voters, but GOT is so popular and the competition is so patchy that I wouldn’t be surprised if it wins at some point. Whether it takes it this year I’m not yet sure.March 20, 2015 at 2:08 am #344189
It boggles my mind that people still confuse science-fiction and fantasy. It really isn’t that hard.
As for the question itself : yes of course it hurts it, but not as much as people think, it feels like GoT has transcended that bias by being this giant hit. If anything, it’s more hurt by being considered soapy than by the fantasy aspect of it.March 20, 2015 at 2:49 am #344190
If you have a hard time distinguishing the genres just call them all “genre shows”.
If GoT is gonna get it done it perhaps has to be this year or a year like this one, a year with no front-runner, no show that’s acclaimed, buzzy and Emmy friendly enough. What may be a bigger issue for GoT than its genre is getting through the tape system. As I claimed from day one the convoluted, sporadic nature of the show as well as the bevy of violence and nudity, all of which are major hurdles with the tape system, may be bigger cruxes to bear than being a fantasy series. This is gonna need be a widely acclaimed season that has at least a few fairly lean, focused episodes to get it done.March 20, 2015 at 11:16 pm #344191
Uhm, no. Its clear that GoT has trascended the hatred towards genre shows. I mean, look at the amount of nominations every year, and IÂ´m not talking about technical categories. What other fantasy show has had best series nominations for every season. Even lost, well, lost, its streak for a while. It hasnÂ´t won because the competition has been stronger, not because of bias.March 21, 2015 at 8:24 am #344192
It’s impossible to say GoT has transcended the bias. Its huge popularity and being on HBO has as much to do with its nominations as anything. If this ends up being a pretty acclaimed season, and there’s still no obvious front-runner then we’ll get an idea of how much bias there is.Riley (the normal one, not the one who won the predictions contest)ParticipantMarch 21, 2015 at 12:47 pm #344193
Something that I think is muddling things is how the Emmys may not have always loved Game of Thrones, but they do now. I would be surprised if it did not get key writing, directing, editing and supporting actress nominations this year, whereas they did not get any of those three years ago. So if there was a fantasy bias that held it back early on, I think that the show has since overcome that.March 21, 2015 at 2:10 pm #344194
Eh, managing to get nominations when you’re the most popular show in the world, is pretty well acclaimed and is on HBO isn’t that difficult to do even when you are a fantasy show.March 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm #344195
There’s still a bias, but it’s largely overcome it with the Emmys, just like how it has a lot of viewers who don’t normally love fantasy. It’s a big climb to win Drama Series though, and with the lack of a precedent similar winner and what I anticipate will be a season with mixed-reception (making more changes than ever from the books guarantees this, since different = bad to a lot of reviewers/fans), I think it won’t win. I don’t mean the season will be bad, it will probably be one of my favourites, but the overall reception will probably be the most controversial yet. What will win in its stead is beyond me for now, but I’m not really buying it as a frontrunner and I think the buzz will start to die while it’s on, like the year that happened with Homeland.
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