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    If Jeremy Strong rises at the same rate he has been these past few days he’ll overtake Bob Odenkirk this time next week!

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Can’t believe so many were doubting Thandie in the first place…

    Always baffles me!

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    I find it ironic that people (not this user specifically) yell at some of us for predicting Succession in acting because it missed at SAG

    But no one’s doing that considering everyone is predicting acting noms for Succession, just not the number this site and some others are predicting which is fair, the same way people aren’t predicting Westworld to get 4-5 acting noms this time around but still expect it to get at least Newton in.

    I mean hypocrisy is too nice a word.

    I mean you are saying that Thandie Newton is largely missing because of the SAG snub but then are predicting Succession to be the most nominated drama in the acting categories…

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    Can’t believe so many were doubting Thandie in the first place…

    I think it was pretty fair to predict a Newton snub just based on competition and the fact that Westworld dropped in both quality and ratings, but now that there’s 8 slots I’d say she’s in. Still, I definitely wouldn’t call her a lock, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t show up on nomination morning.

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    If Jeremy Strong rises at the same rate he has been these past few days he’ll overtake Bob Odenkirk this time next week!

    As he should

    We love to see it. Pull through, Vee! https://www.goldderby.com/article/2020/viola-davis-how-to-get-away-with-murder-emmy-predictions-drama-actress-top-six/

    We certainly do!

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    I mean you are saying that Thandie Newton is largely missing because of the SAG snub but then are predicting Succession to be the most nominated drama in the acting categories…

    I am predicting The Crown to be the most nominated drama in the acting categories. I have Macfadyen in as a placeholder.

    And even if I did have it as the most nominated drama in acting it isn’t hypocritical to think so when it is the frontrunner for Drama Series.

    Odenkirk outsold Jeremy Strong and it’s not even close.

    I guess you don’t understand that I was talking about in the combined odds and not performance.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    But this ignores the fact that they have had only one or two viable contenders in the drama race in those years and all of them have actually gotten nominated since 2014 probably. This year they have three/four. Personal opinions aside, Big Little Lies had a better reception than half of those predicted nominees based on any quantifiable metric and arguably a better guild performance as well. HBO just got 4/5 slots at PGA and 5/5 at DGA this year. I doubt they’ll go with things like Pose and This is Us over a much stronger HBO contender like Big Little Lies. Westworld and The Outsider are arguable so won’t comment on that.

    Yeah, your theory can be proven correct and I also mentioned the Guild support for HBO, but still, I cannot see This is us missing, it will keep representing the networks and it deserves on quality as well. Then Pose… If it gets in it will be a political nominee, and I love Pose, but yeah, their campaign this year is so aggressive, if Big Little Lies gets nominated and Pose do not, I am sure that they will go for it…

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    Can’t believe so many were doubting Thandie in the first place…

    People were doubting her because her performance and show have no buzz this year. This helps her, but I’m still not ready to put her in my lineup just yet. Maybe if she continues to trend I’ll slot her in.

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    Well, in general I am not predicting as steep a drop off for Westworld as the majority so, to me, I would be surprised (and mad) if she missed.

    While I am not blind to the criticism for the show and the softening of the ratings, I also wouldn’t call the season or her performance “buzz-less.”

    While the situation isn’t quite comparable, season 2 also garnered lots of criticism (more so, I’d say, than season 3), and was less than a favorite on the GD forums. We all saw how that turned out.

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    Well, in general I am not predicting as steep a drop off for Westworld as the majority so, to me, I would be surprised (and mad) if she missed. While I am not blind to the criticism for the show and the softening of the ratings, I also wouldn’t call the season or her performance “buzz-less.” While the situation isn’t quite comparable, season 2 also garnered lots of criticism (more so, I’d say, than season 3), and was less than a favorite on the GD forums. We all saw how that turned out.

    This season literally has two rotten episodes (and if I’m mistaken is the only show competing in the top 15 that had a single rotten episode). Season 2 didn’t and was arguably riding on the coattails of season 1 because voters (like with Killing Eve season 2) hadn’t gotten to watch season 2 yet and just checked it off because of the goodwill for the first season.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    S2 aired two years after S1, not only that but Westworld’s first season did not underperform unlike Killing Eve’s, the comparison makes no sense whatsoever and the goodwill theory is just a random assumption.

    I would appreciate it if you read what I actually wrote.

    I didn’t say voters didn’t have time to watch season 1 before watching season 2 I said they didn’t have time to watch season 2 whilst it was airing. Season 2 was airing whilst voting was ongoing and a lot of voters weren’t watching it when voting (we know this from the fact that Rinko Kikuchi missing). We saw how when voters had time to catch up on it the show was dropped like a bunch of dead flies from all the big guilds (SAG, PGA, WGA, DGA). I mean This is Us was nominated for the very first time at some of those guilds in favour of Westworld because they hated season 2 so much.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Westworld 2 had aired 8 of its 10 episodes when Nomination-round voting began so you’re not making sense. The show was indeed dropped though this have been tossed around way too much and unfairly considering that those only nominate 5 shows, you might as well take a look at the actual nominees that year.

    It’s not tossed around too much or unfairly when Better Call Saul is one of the shows SAG chose to vote for instead of Westworld despite never having recognised it and had the pandemic not occurred probably wouldn’t have recognised it again.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I would appreciate it if you read what I actually wrote. I didn’t say voters didn’t have time to watch season 1 before watching season 2 I said they didn’t have time to watch season 2 whilst it was airing. Season 2 was airing whilst voting was ongoing and a lot of voters weren’t watching it when voting (we know this from the fact that Rinko Kikuchi missing). We saw how when voters had time to catch up on it the show was dropped like a bunch of dead flies from all the big guilds (SAG, PGA, WGA, DGA). I mean This is Us was nominated for the very first time at some of those guilds in favour of Westworld because they hated season 2 so much.

    Or maybe they just liked This Is Us more.

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    Jennifer Aniston has drama actress emmy in her bag. I love Olivia but jennifer’s performance in the morning show was better.

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