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    wolfali
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    How can you remember Streep and not Kidman? How can you remember Big Little Lies in itself without remembering the person and performance at the center of the premise or foundation of the plot?

    I remember Kidman! I just feel like in terms of season 2 and the performances in season 2 some people may not remember her (for some weird reason).

    Then again I do wonder if Big Little Lies might over-perform. After all some people in the industry haven’t gotten round to seeing it yet and assume the second season is just as good as the first (i.e. Russell Crowe).

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I think Thandie Newton is in severe danger of being dropped. Westworld overall is not strong this year and contenders like Seehorn and Snook have way more passion and buzz.

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    Moss, Whitford, Dowd, Strahovski and Bledel are all getting in at least.

    With this amount of competition I actually think only Moss and Bledel are safe. Whitford could also be safe but tbh I can see him easily missing. And again, I don’t think both Strahovski and Dowd are THAT safe. It’s true that Drama Supporting Actress has 8 slots but the competition is also extremely fierce and neither of the two received any kind of recognition from the winter precursors.

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    Kay
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    There is no way Big Little Lies overperforms. I think over performing for the show would include nominations for Writing or for any one of these actors:

    • Shailene Woodley
    • Zoe Kravitz
    • Adam Scott
    • James Tupper
    • Jeffrey Nordling

    and Alexander Skarsgard (lol). And no, I don’t think Witherspoon would be a sign of the show over performing.

     

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    With this amount of competition I actually think only Moss and Bledel are safe. Whitford could also be safe but tbh I can see him easily missing. And again, I don’t think both Strahovski and Dowd are THAT safe. It’s true that Drama Supporting Actress has 8 slots but the competition is also extremely fierce and neither of the two received any kind of recognition from the winter precursors.

    If people are predicting Streep and Dern though they should be predicting Dowd and Strahovski or at least some variation of that both of their shows got SAG ensemble nominations which shows that the actors still have support regardless of how their overall seasons were received.

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    Well guess the field will just be the Globe/Sag nominees then. Carter & Streep.

    I meant that they didn’t get any nomination from a single winter percursor. Not even a CC nom. I don’t hold that against them but it’s always good to have some kind of back up from precursors. The Handmaid’s Tale doesn’t seem to be as strong as it was but then again this could all just an assumption and it explodes once again. Who knows?!…

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    If people are predicting Streep and Dern though they should be predicting Dowd and Strahovski or at least some variation of that both of their shows got SAG ensemble nominations which shows that the actors still have support regardless of how their overall seasons were received.

    I can see were you’re coming from but both Meryl and Laura got recognition from precursors other than SAG ensemble. Something that both Ann and Yvonne failed to do. But then again this are all assumptions. THT might just explode with acting branch once again.

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    I would understand the hesitation in a field of 6, but a field of 8? I don’t see how THT doesn’t get at least one actress in when they got 3 last time it was fully eligible, won the 2 guest categories last year with nothing performances and got SAG ensemble nom. Bledel and Strahovski didn’t get in anywhere before their noms for s2 (of course Bledel had won guest the year prior but that doesn’t really secure a nom in supporting, look at Martindale). Samira Wiley didn’t show up anywhere after her supporting nom for s1 and still went on winning guest for s2. I think The Emmys have always loved the show more than precusors, at least in acting. Also, I would like to mention Strahovski got in at the Golden Globes for s2 (replacing Dowd there)  despite not winning The Emmy while the show got dropped from Best Drama, which indicates she can still get in even if the show is weak and before Dowd (of course, I’m aware GG doesn’t mean much but it’s still an indication that emmy voters might also priotize her if only one gets in).

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    I would understand the hesitation in a field of 6, but a field of 8? I don’t see how THT doesn’t get at least one actress in when they got 3 last time it was fully eligible, won the 2 guest categories last year with nothing performances and got SAG ensemble. Bledel and Strahovski didn’t get in anywhere before their noms for s2 (of course Bledel had won guest the year prior but that doesn’t really secure a nom in supporting, look at Martindale). Samira Wiley didn’t show up anywhere after her supporting nom for s1 and still went on winning guest for s2. I think The Emmys have always loved the show more than precusors, at least in acting. Also, I would like to mention Strahovski got in at the Golden Globes for s2 (replacing Dowd there) despite not winning The Emmy while the show got dropped from Best Drama, which indicates she can still get in even if the show is weak and before Dowd (of course, I’m aware GG doesn’t mean much but it’s still an indication that emmy voters might also priotize her if only one gets in).

    Dowd and Yvonne situation at GG was basically the same as Oh and Comer. Dowd got nominated there after winning the Emmy and Yvonne got a nomination after getting nominated for the Emmy for season 2, wich many believed she was going to win because she was the big supporting standout of the season. It’s not something that I would use to justify a possible nomination for season 3.

    Also, Samira didn’t get any recognition after the Emmys for season 1 because her nomination was the definition of a coattail. It was a ridicolous nomination. She also won in guest after getting dropped from supporting. And she actually deserved to win that one. If anyone deserved to get in with Dowd for season 1, that person was definetly Strahovski. I still think Dowd is ahead of her. She has been nominated since season 1 (for wich she won), season 3 was her best and Yvonne didn’t managed to overcome vote split for a season everyone agreed she was the standout.

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    Can a THT fan tell me the argument for Strahovski over Dowd? Currently, I only have space for one and was thinking Dowd made a lot more sense but I am seeing a lot of support for Strahovski as well.

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    Dowd and Yvonne situation at GG was basically the same as Oh and Comer.

    Well yes but Strahovski didn’t win the emmy unlike Comer and they dropped her show from Series, so there was no “need” to nominate her. I agree this argument is weak. I didn’t use Globes to justify her getting a nom at the emmys this year, but to show it’s possible to drop Dowd for her as it happened previously.

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    Can a THT fan tell me the argument for Strahovski over Dowd? Currently, I only have space for one and was thinking Dowd made a lot more sense but I am seeing a lot of support for Strahovski as well.

    If I had to vote based on season 3, I would go with Dowd. But I’ve seen a good amount of people prefering Yvonne. But like I said in the previous post, I also think Ann is stronger than Strahovski for the same reasons I pointed out.

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    Well yes but Strahovski didn’t win the emmy unlike Comer and they dropped her show from Series, so there was no “need” to nominate her. I agree this argument is weak. I didn’t use Globes to justify her getting a nom at the emmys this year, but to show it’s possible to drop Dowd for her as it happened previously.

    I won’t say you don’t have a point but then again GG like to swap and drop people all the time. One year they award you and then next they can snub you so… Strahovski kinda makes sense getting in since she had one of the most acclaimed supporting performances of that season. Maura Tierney also won in a year GG dropped her show.

    FYC Emmys: Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress), Olivia Colman (Drama Actress), Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress), Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress), Zendaya (Drama Actress), Alexis Bledel (Drama Guest Actress)

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    What I don’t understand is how people think voters will check off Moss and Whitford, but not Strahovski and/or Dowd, when those two gave equally, if not more, buzzed about and acclaimed performances. And on top that, their category has 8 slots.

    Not having watched the season until recently, I would say that Moss and Whitford have had more awards momentum at least (if not buzz, if that is different) for this season for the last year now.

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