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    Kay
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    Despite it not being “popular”, Succession has passion, lots of passion. It won AFI, Globes, PGA, WGA, Critics Choice and got nominated at DGA and TCA (pending). And yes the massive critical acclaim helps.

    It’s also not “slow paced” at all though.

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    I don’t think “The Crown” has passion, at least not nearly as much as “Succession” and “Ozark.” It’s tremendously respected, but I wouldn’t say it’s what people are banging the drum for out there. Its SAG nominations and win were impressive, but I keep thinking to myself that had “Ozark” been eligible with this particular season, HBC might not have been shortlisted and the show may not have won (I also think Linney would have grabbed the statuette from Aniston). But since that’s just a guess, I will not consider that.

    “Ozark” and “Succession” were sleeper hits with their eligible seasons. Yes, both did well for preceding seasons at the Emmys, but no one expected S3 of Ozark or S2 of Succession to blow up as much as they did. The Crown’s third season, on other hand, was either as good as people expected or underwhelming, which is due to the fact that it had more expectations leading into that season than it could ever meet (depending on who you ask, I guess).

    I still think Ozark is out in front because it has broader passion than Succession.

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    A lot of people here like to share their opinions with strong confidence, even though anything can happen between now and September, so here’s one from me: Ozark isn’t winning Drama Series.

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    A lot of people here like to share their opinions with strong confidence, even though anything can happen between now and September, so here’s one from me: Ozark isn’t winning Drama Series.

    Considering you’re not even predicting Laura Linney, Tom Pelphrey and Janet McTeer (for the nom!), I am not shocked.

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    Considering you’re not even predicting Laura Linney, Tom Pelphrey or Janet McTeer, I am not shocked.

    The predictions are not locked. Check my predictions again on nominations day.

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    A lot of people here like to share their opinions with strong confidence, even though anything can happen between now and September, so here’s one from me: Ozark isn’t winning Drama Series.

    I love how you have all these opinions about Ozark when you haven’t seen it.

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    I love how you have all these opinions about Ozark when you haven’t seen it.

    Maybe I can have an objective view without being biased?

    Not sure what you mean by “all these opinions” of mine, but here they are. As I said before, Ozark is unlikely to win Drama Series. Bateman, Linney and Garner are safe for nominations. I’m not predicting McTeer, but Pelphrey has a good chance of getting in (I’m not calling him a frontrunner).

    I don’t believe one has to watch a certain program to predict its chances. If the nominees were actually based on quality and merit, we would’ve had a very different slate of nominees every year.

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    Ozark is beloved by actors (4 SAG noms for its second season!); it won an acting Emmy last year; and its third season was a mega hit and came out when stay-at-home orders began being implemented. I quite honestly don’t know what else people need to see to take it seriously. If you need some clips, here they are:

    Laura Linney: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtm2Ylk-3Mk

    Tom Pelphrey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA_A5_6bXnY

    Janet McTeer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3gk2G_Pv0

    And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol5j6mHT8TQ

    But I get waiting until nominations morning to make the final touches (as I will do that too).

     

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    I never denied the show’s performance at SAG, nor the performances of the actors. Just because it’s bigger than its previous season doesn’t mean it will explode at the Emmys.

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    I mean Bateman got in and Ozark got nominated for directing for a no1curr episode in 2018 for a random July dump. Then 4 SAG noms (a win), 2 major above-the-line Emmys (albeit due to vote splitting, but no less passion-based), and WGA, DGA, PGA nods all for another summer release in the second season. That’s the definition of passion. And given that its best season is competing, I don’t know why you shouldn’t have an increased confidence in it? Especially with its hit status and airing just at the right time. And it is most definitely competitive for Drama Series. Will it win? Who knows. But you can’t say it definitely won’t when it’s probably top 2 at the moment and could win another acting Emmy (or two; tbh Laura is locked imo) plus directing again.

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    Y’all literally read and understand what y’all want dontcha? The question wasn’t whether Ozark has passion or not but anyways, whatever fits your narrative…

    Erm you’re arguing that it can’t have more passion that The Crown and that it’s only predicted because of the directing win last year, when it gets more noms and wins each year, probably the second most watched in the race after Stranger Things, and is mega beloved by the industry. But somehow yes the directing win is the only reason anyone considers it competitive, but anyways whatever fits your narrative…

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    I never denied the show’s performance at SAG, nor the performances of the actors. Just because it’s bigger than its previous season doesn’t mean it will explode at the Emmys.

    Erm Ozark kinda already exploded at the Emmys last year with Series, Actress and Supporting actress noms (and win for SA) in addition to s1 nominations of Actor and directing. It getting another supporting actress in and supporting actor isn’t exploding but in continuity of its trajectory, both in quality and at the Emmys.

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    I’ve just sadly slotted Cherry Jones in for the second time for The Handmaid’s Tale. Whilst I’ve taking the risky decision of dropping the show from Series I really don’t see Jones missing for The Handmaid’s Tale and only getting in for Succession especially considering THT’s previous dominance in this category. I see The Handmaid’s Tale being weaker this year to the extent that it could end up like the fourth season of The Good Wife and miss Actress and Series whilst getting Supporting nods but I don’t see how it goes from three consecutive wins to only one nominee.

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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