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    Jays
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    I wouldn’t be surprised if she got in. I’m not predicting her right now but say all you want she’s kind of a NGNG pick here for me. The Handmaid’s Tale is going to be weaker with the acting branch of the Academy this year than it was in 2018 and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Dowd miss. After all Thandie Newton hasn’t not been nominated for role so far and won yet some of you are predicting her to not even be close to a nomination.

    But you have zero evidence to support the claim that THT is going to be weaker with the acting branch this year. It just won two acting Emmy’s last year when they only submitted like two/three episodes lol. It has yet to underperform in the acting categories, specifically when it comes to garnering nominations.

    It’s completely wishful thinking to believe that THT will not only underperform, but that Frances Dukes, of all people/performances, will be the one to capitalize of that supposed underperformance.

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    No, when regarding the industry and especially the academy, I don’t think this is accurate. And luckily 2020 isn’t so effed up that we will ever have to see if you’re right.

    I am happy that we will never know as well, they deserve to triumph without canceling each other.

    Or maybe all three of Anderson, Colman and HBC are good and get in so Linney wins by default?

    If the line up is Anderson, Colman, HBC, Garner and Linney, yes I can see Linney as the winner (if we assume that the three ladies from The Crown would be equally good).

    What a missed opportunity for Ventimiglia…

    Well, he declined to go supporting, this is more than obvious, since Justin Hartley confirmed that he decided to go lead. Ego can be huge with artists. Either way, I am not sure that Ventimiglia can beat Pelphrey

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    After reading through the last 5 pages of the last drama thread, I realized that The Crown and Succession fans get very nervous whenever someone brings up the possibility of Ozark overperforming and winning a boatload of Emmys.

    I don’t agree with this because from what I saw is The Crown (Colman) and Succession that have some haters in this forum, not Ozark.

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    I still feel like Milo could surprise in lead lol. I’m not predicting it but I feel like voters really love him on This Is Us and his name will be towards the top of half the ballots. Stranger things have happened, maybe him never missing for the show so far is a sign that he’ll just always get in.

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    Jessica Frances Dukes? Over Ann Dowd, Fiona Shaw and pretty much everyone else?

    I was a little surprised she submitted herself, and that her team let her do so. Not only does she not have a chance, but it kinda looks bad that she would try to compete against her own co-stars. Ill-advised.

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    I don’t agree with this because from what I saw is The Crown (Colman) and Succession that have some haters in this forum, not Ozark.

    Do people really hate The Crown? I think it’s more so that people were disappointed with season 3, in particular, which I think is fair because it was definitely the shows weakest outing. As for Succession, the only reason I could see people hating that show is if they didn’t see it and are rooting for a different top contender or if they just don’t like the characters (which is possible). I just think a succession is objectively the best show of the year – down to the writing, directing and acting.

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    I don’t agree with this because from what I saw is The Crown (Colman) and Succession that have some haters in this forum, not Ozark.

    All three series have haters, or at least detractors. But I don’t think hate drove the conversation last night.

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    But you have zero evidence to support the claim that THT is going to be weaker with the acting branch this year. It just won two acting Emmy’s last year when they only submitted like two/three episodes lol. It has yet to underperform in the acting categories, specifically when it comes to garnering nominations. It’s completely wishful thinking to believe that THT will not only underperform, but that Frances Dukes, of all people/performances, will be the one to capitalize of that supposed underperformance.

    It literally had the number of its SAG nominations reduced this year and in terms of the show’s strength as a whole it missed at PGA and DGA this year.

    Also if we’re saying that just because The Handmaid’s Tale won two acting awards in a weak field that there is no evidence that its going to underperform then one can rightfully say there is no evidence that Jodie Comer is going to miss. She won the Emmy last year and got in at every precursor.

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    End of discussion!

    lol I don’t think that line works around here.

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    Updated Drama Series predictions :

    1. Succession
    2. Ozark
    3. The Crown
    4. Better Call Saul
    5. The Morning Show
    6. Big Little Lies
    7. The Handmaid’s Tale
    8. Stranger Things


    9. This is Us
    10. The Outsider
    11. Pose
    12. Westworld
    13. Euphoria
    14. Killing Eve
    15. Homeland
    16. Mindhunter
    17. Black Mirror
    18. The Good Fight
    19. The Mandalorian

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    Unfortunately, this is true in regards to the fandom. Fans will literally talk about how great Pelphrey was in the last few minutes of Episode 9 and then go on to say Garner is the best actress on the show. It’s total Linney erasure on all the major platforms. Again… Baffling.

    It’s not baffling at all. Casual online fans are notoriously unable to separate performance from character. Wendy is disliked by the majority of the male-centric Ozark fanbase. Ruth is adored because she’s male aligning (loves Marty, was raised entirely by males). It’s very transparent. Anyone that actually knows about acting and can attempt to look at it with some degree of objectivity knows Linney gave the best performance this season. The Emmys judge performances, and while ‘fan favouritism‘ influences that decision, some users here are placing too much value on it.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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    But most Emmy voters are closer to casual fan than thoughtful critic.

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    But most Emmy voters are closer to casual fan than thoughtful critic.

    Closer, yes, but not to the extent that we should take Facebook stats and the rhetoric seen on reddit as definitive evidence in this context.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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    It’s not baffling at all. Casual online fans are notoriously unable to separate performance from character. Wendy is disliked by the majority of the male-centric Ozark fanbase. Ruth is adored because she’s male aligning (loves Marty, was raised entirely by males). It’s very transparent. Anyone that actually knows about acting and can attempt to look at it with some degree of objectivity knows Linney gave the best performance this season. The Emmys judge performances, and while ‘fan favouritism‘ influences that decision, some users here are placing too much value on it.

    Oh, I know they’re two completely different groups of people. I mean, some of the now mainstream audience actually think that Ben is secretly alive ffs.

    I’m not totally joking when I say that the average IQ of Ozark fans has dipped tremendously since the show exploded this spring/summer.

    But when someone mentioned the online favoritism for Ruth over Wendy, I did want to back that up because the perspective of those viewers — both men and women — is rather stark and incredibly jarring to observe over and over and over again. And no, they’re not as adept at separating character from actor, but I still expected better discernment.

    And great analysis of the audience. It’s very much in sync with how viewers reacted to Skylar, and reeks of misogyny.

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    And great analysis of the audience. It’s very much in sync with how viewers reacted to Skylar, and reeks of misogyny.

    Yeah the way the audience treats Wendy and Skylar is beyond sexist and strikingly similar. The way I just saw a tweet last night highlighting the “show’s villain” (White) and the “actual villain” (Skylar) when all she did was annoy him skjkf. And I don’t know how many times I’ve seen Wendy being called the “bitch” for not listening to her husband. Thank god the academy can separate performance from the character (and not to mention avoid sexism like that).

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