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    So far he doesn’t seem to have much. I mean yes there is the story about him possibly taking the fall for the whole MeToo scandal but that’s it. He doesn’t have as much screen time or involvement with the story as Crudup, Witherspoon or Aniston do. I’ll give you Carell though and Mbatha-Raw in the earlier episodes.

    You’re right that he doesn’t have much of a story line… but he has a lot of screen time, especially in those earlier episodes.

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    Never considered that, but it makes a lot of sense. They completely ate up Bombshell when nobody else did. Something similar could play out with Morning Show.

    Okay but I am failing to understand how this bodes negatively for The Morning Show?

    I mean, Bombshell got nominated for Kidman, Theron, Robbie, and Ensemble at SAG. And then at the Oscars, it got nominated for Robbie, Theron, and the Oscars don’t have an Ensemble category. So it only missed for Kidman.

    So I guess if we take Bombshell as a literal comparison, then that means Carell is probably not getting in, but how is this red flag for The Morning Show at the Emmys? Especially in the acting categories?

    No one was comparing them. I made a case as to what they may have had in common at SAG. That doesn’t make their awards trajectories similar.

    But that means comparing only no?

    Also what I am failing to understand is why this bodes badly for the show Bombshell did secure Oscar nominations for two actors, so it’s not like SAG was the only one that went for it. And unlike Bombshell, The Morning Show did two things that make it stand out – it actually won a SAG award, and it overcame the notorious bias SAG has for new shows that air in the fall.

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    But that means comparing only no? Also what I am failing to understand is why this bodes badly for the show Bombshell did secure Oscar nominations for two actors, so it’s not like SAG was the only one that went for it. And unlike Bombshell, The Morning Show did two things that make it stand out – it actually won a SAG award, and it overcame the notorious bias SAG has for new shows that air in the fall.

    I don’t think anyone is saying that it isn’t getting nominations for Aniston and Crudup, I think people are questioning whether it can over-perform with actors or get into Series. After all you did mention Bombshell still got two acting Oscar nomination but it did fail to get into Picture after getting snubbed at PGA and failed to get Kidman in. Don’t forget TMS failed to get into PGA.

    Oscars FYC:
    "Shiva Baby" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "Together" – in all categories especially Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "CODA" – in all categories especially Supporting Actor (Troy Kotsur)
    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant), Supporting Actress (Sarah Lancashire)
    "I'm Your Man" – International Feature
    "Summer of Soul" – Documentary Feature

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    That person also posted a gif saying it was Janet McTeer when clearly it wasn’t her … They often don’t know what they are talking about. Duplass could compete in lead and he’s also more prominent/present in his show than Ruck is in Succession.

    The fact this comes from someone who thinks SAG, PGA, DGA and WGA dropped Westworld is safer with actors than SAG winning Ozark and SAG nominated Big Little Lies and in Series than SAG nominated TMS and SAG and PGA nominated Big Little Lies LMAO.

    Oscars FYC:
    "Shiva Baby" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "Together" – in all categories especially Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "CODA" – in all categories especially Supporting Actor (Troy Kotsur)
    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant), Supporting Actress (Sarah Lancashire)
    "I'm Your Man" – International Feature
    "Summer of Soul" – Documentary Feature

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    Also what I am failing to understand is why this bodes badly for the show Bombshell did secure Oscar nominations for two actors, so it’s not like SAG was the only one that went for it. And unlike Bombshell, The Morning Show did two things that make it stand out – it actually won a SAG award, and it overcame the notorious bias SAG has for new shows that air in the fall.

    I can’t speak for others, but that I didn’t use this, I guess, comparison to express my doubts for TMS. I was going off of another comment, in which the two projects’ SAG performances were compared, to which I responded with what I thought the two had in comman – that’s it. Their awards trajectories couldn’t be more different, though I am only, ironically, predicting two acting noms for TMS.

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    # of imdb ratings, tho they def have a bias towards some genres over others:

    stranger things 754k

    westworld 406k

    saul 300k

    ozark 163k

    handmaid 157k

    big little lies 143k

    crown 115k

    this is us 95k

    killing eve 77k

    morning show 38k

    succession 31k

    pose 16k

    Look at the most voted on films of all time on IMDB, between TV & this, there’s clearly a running theme.

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    AayaanUpadhyaya
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    I can’t speak for others, but that I didn’t use this, I guess, comparison to express my doubts for TMS. I was going off of another comment, in which the two projects’ SAG performances were compared, to which I responded with what I thought the two had in comman – that’s it. Their awards trajectories couldn’t be more different, though I am only, ironically, predicting two acting noms for TMS.

    Fair enough. I am also only predicting three acting nods for TMS but ironically that’s because I feel like the acting branch has actually seen the show, so they will nominate Anniston, Crudup, and Raw, and snub Witherspoon (her category is too competitive this time), and Carrell (his performance sucks IMO).

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    But that means comparing only no? Also what I am failing to understand is why this bodes badly for the show Bombshell did secure Oscar nominations for two actors, so it’s not like SAG was the only one that went for it. And unlike Bombshell, The Morning Show did two things that make it stand out – it actually won a SAG award, and it overcame the notorious bias SAG has for new shows that air in the fall.

    The reason why the comparison doesn’t look good for Morning Show is because Bombshell didn’t do particularly well at the Oscars. It got two acting nods and won makeup, but nothing else even though it was a timely subject and the studio’s big push. And not to discredit Theron and Robbie’s work, but they got into wide open categories.

    So given Morning Show has a similar (albeit not identical) subject matter and precursor run, it’s possible that it may end up having a similar showing at the main ceremony, which is getting in for the obvious locks but missing out on additional nods.

    Thats not to say that this necessarily means that would happen, as the Oscars and Emmys and their precursors are noticeably different, so this comparison could end up meaning absolutely nothing. It’s always hard to be certain what will go on with brand new shows, especially ones from a brand new streaming service.

    I don’t watch the show, so I’m not the best judge, but I’m predicting the nominations to be similar to Bombshell, in that it’ll get the two obvious lock performances nominated (Anniston and Crudup), but miss out for the more uncertain nods, with the exception of series. Unlike Bombshell, I can see one or both of those actors winning their category, even though I currently have them both in third place.

    I’m not predicting Carell and Witherspoon because they don’t seem to have enough acclaim (additionally many say the former’s too small a role and the latter could suffer from giving a more popular performance on another show in this category), I’m not predicting Duplass and Mbatha-Raw because I feel like there’s not enough talk surrounding their work (additionally the former has seemingly been completely overshadowed by Crudup while the latter apparently is only a bit player for the first half of the show), and I’m not predicting writing and directing because they got shutout from those guilds. With all that being said, I can still see them getting nominated despite all that. Except Duplass. I like him, but I’m pretty sure this is the only place I ever hear about his work.

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    The reason why the comparison doesn’t look good for Morning Show is because Bombshell didn’t do particularly well at the Oscars. It got two acting nods and won makeup, but nothing else even though it was a timely subject and the studio’s big push. And not to discredit Theron and Robbie’s work, but they got into wide open categories. So given Morning Show has a similar (albeit not identical) subject matter and precursor run, it’s possible that it may end up having a similar showing at the main ceremony, which is getting in for the obvious locks but missing out on additional nods. Thats not to say that this necessarily means that would happen, as the Oscars and Emmys and their precursors are noticeably different, so this comparison could end up meaning absolutely nothing. It’s always hard to be certain what will go on with brand new shows, especially ones from a brand new streaming service. I don’t watch the show, so I’m not the best judge, but I’m predicting the nominations to be similar to Bombshell, in that it’ll get the two obvious lock performances nominated (Anniston and Crudup), but miss out for the more uncertain nods, with the exception of series. Unlike Bombshell, I can see one or both of those actors winning their category, even though I currently have them both in third place. I’m not predicting Carell and Witherspoon because they don’t seem to have enough acclaim (additionally many say the former’s too small a role and the latter could suffer from giving a more popular performance on another show in this category), I’m not predicting Duplass and Mbatha-Raw because I feel like there’s not enough talk surrounding their work (additionally the former has seemingly been completely overshadowed by Crudup while the latter apparently is only a bit player for the first half of the show), and I’m not predicting writing and directing because they got shutout from those guilds. With all that being said, I can still see them getting nominated despite all that. Except Duplass. I like him, but I’m pretty sure this is the only place I ever hear about his work.

    I cannot agree with this more.

    I think either TMS gets only Aniston and Crudup in or gets everyone key apart from Duplass and maybe Kaling in.

    Oscars FYC:
    "Shiva Baby" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "Together" – in all categories especially Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "CODA" – in all categories especially Supporting Actor (Troy Kotsur)
    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant), Supporting Actress (Sarah Lancashire)
    "I'm Your Man" – International Feature
    "Summer of Soul" – Documentary Feature

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    Imagine how funny it would be if Winona Ryder got into Lead Actress despite Stranger Things being weaker this year and her getting snubbed when we thought she was going to get a nomination. I would fall off my chair.

    Oscars FYC:
    "Shiva Baby" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "Together" – in all categories especially Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "CODA" – in all categories especially Supporting Actor (Troy Kotsur)
    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant), Supporting Actress (Sarah Lancashire)
    "I'm Your Man" – International Feature
    "Summer of Soul" – Documentary Feature

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    Imagine how funny it would be if Winona Ryder got into Lead Actress despite Stranger Things being weaker this year and her getting snubbed when we thought she was going to get a nomination. I would fall off my chair.

    Sad thing is she might’ve been able to pull it off last year.

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    Sad thing is she might’ve been able to pull it off last year.

    In a way I am glad Stranger Things and BLL didn’t air weeks earlier as it would have probably cost Succession, Bodyguard and Pose their Series noms.

    Oscars FYC:
    "Shiva Baby" – in all categories especially Picture, Adapted Screenplay, Score
    "Together" – in all categories especially Actress (Sharon Horgan), Actor (James McAvoy), Original Screenplay
    "CODA" – in all categories especially Supporting Actor (Troy Kotsur)
    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Supporting Actor (Richard E. Grant), Supporting Actress (Sarah Lancashire)
    "I'm Your Man" – International Feature
    "Summer of Soul" – Documentary Feature

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    Darlings, I’m so sorry… but this year your Prime Minister won’t be able to do her campaign for the Emmys… she’s busy trying to fight coronavirus with all the other world leaders. Please stay safe and wear masks… the GoldDerby reign will win this fight against the bloody virus! I hope all my citizens are good and see you next movie awards season.

    My wishes for the Emmys are a Big Little Lies sweep with Abused Kidman and Shouty Dern getting dildos and a nomination for MJ Rodriguez for Pose. It’s time to reward a transgender performer at least with a nod! A Prime Minister can only dream… with a better world. And I hope that’s the case when I come back to be active in this marvelous kingdom that Thatcher has the pleasure to rule.

    Long live you all, dear citizens!

    As a famous singer said, "ain't nobody gonna Thatcher, Thatcher, Thatcher!"

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    In a way I am glad Stranger Things and BLL didn’t air weeks earlier as it would have probably cost Succession, Bodyguard and Pose their Series noms.

    it’s basically a draw because of GOT’s domination, but it is funny how HBO screwed themselves out of probable nominations for Witherspoon, Woodley, Scott, and maybe even Kravitz by airing in June over May (likelihood in that order). Kidman and Dern or Streep could’ve won too.

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