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    Not to go in circles here, but I keep asking myself how you finish Ozark S3, “Fire Pink” in particular, and then don’t go ahead and check off Linney for the win. Not only is she absolutely pitch-perfect, but her final scene in that episode punches you in the gut like nothing else. What Jennifer Aniston and Olivia Colman do, in my opinion, just doesn’t come close to that.

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    This is Us:

    if they underperform: Brown, Cephas Jones, Rashad

    if they perform solidly: Brown, Cephas Jones, McRaney, Rashad

    if they overperform: Series, Brown, Ventimiglia, Moore, Sullivan, Cephas Jones, Rashad, Adlon

    This wouldn’t be an overperformance though. It would be normal for the show. In fact you left out McRaney.

    Overperforming would be all of the above plus either Hartley, Kelechi Watson and/or Blackk.

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    I’m sorry if I offended you, it wasn’t my intention.

    LMFAOO

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    If the fan theories are correct that season 3 will see a big jump in prominence for Roman (like season 2 had for Shiv), then I can’t imagine how she won’t as she’s his most significant scene partner at this point. I bet the two of them will have a LOT to do next season.

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    J. Smith-Cameron can get nominated if Succession does well. I do not see Holly Hunter getting nominated under any circumstances. Hunter was a guest this season and Smith-Cameron has been in every episode since the pilot; seeing as Succession was shut out last year for acting nominations, I assume that the branch is kind of considering both seasons this year.

    Holly Hunter had way more presence and importance to the storyline than Smith-Cameron, who does absolutely nothing in the show. If we are considering Smith-Cameron, then let’s consider Abbass aswell who has also been on the show since the pilot, has an equally nothing performance and potential goodwill from her role in Ramy. And her drags against Shiv are more memorable than anything Smith-Cameron has done.

    If I had to choose between those 3, my vote would go to Hunter without hesitation.

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    And her drags against Shiv are more memorable than anything Smith-Cameron has done.

    Abbas asking Hunter if she has checked herself for any STDs since they are both f*cking the same man now is one of my favorite scenes of the entire show, so I completely agree with you.

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    I’d personally choose Abass and Smith-Cameron over Hunter, but none of them would actually make my lineup this year.

    Hunter would’ve been an excellent guest nominee if it weren’t for her going over eligibility.

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    Not to go in circles here, but I keep asking myself how you finish Ozark S3, “Fire Pink” in particular, and then don’t go ahead and check off Linney for the win. Not only is she absolutely pitch-perfect, but her final scene in that episode punches you in the gut like nothing else. What Jennifer Aniston and Olivia Colman do, in my opinion, just doesn’t come close to that.

    When I see the experts choose someone other than Linney in their predictions, or worse — have her fourth or fifth on their list, I’m instantly like, “Alright, you didn’t watch the show. Got it.”

    I watched all of TMS, and I watched Colman’s “big” moments. And yeah, they weren’t my thing, but I can recognize that they’re good.

    But this season was another level for Linney. So I’m left guessing that people are picking actors they like more or actors who they believe are more popular overall.

    They obviously don’t but Linney had the edge over the two others with the baity material she had to work with, just like Pelphrey. Regardless they were beyond outstanding and both should easily win.

    Every actor has to work with the material they’ve been given. Are we supposed to think that single tear in Aberfan wasn’t meant to be baity? Or that scene with the Queen’s son?

    Was that conference room scene in TMS not meant to be baity? Or her breakdown at the fires? Her fight with her daughter? That outrageous last moment pacing around set on live television?

    Every actress being discussed here had some baity material — perhaps even more so than their male peers. That’s not really the question.

    And while Ozark managed to build on their story in a way that I think showcased more nuance in character development and Linney’s portrayal, it’s not like she otherwise had some great advantage over the other actors simply with the material she was given.

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    Most of the experts are biased with their predictions so it doesn’t surprise me.

    Well, we’re all biased in some way. We like who we like and what we like. But I expect more neutrality.

    Like, regardless of who anyone liked last year, Comer deserved her win. But then again, I guess not everyone predicted her either, so it’s all moot.

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    I think everyone agrees Linney has the best performance but it’s not like the best performance always wins…

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    I mean Linney’s material was more baity than any of these ladies in the top 5, I don’t even know why you’re trying to argue about that. If anything you’re proving that Ozark stans can’t take criticism.

    First of all, if you’re going to apply my response to an entire group of fans, that’s on you, not on them.

    I’m allowed to disagree with you, right? I watched every episode of TMS, where Alex went through trial after trial at work and at home, internally and externally. It was non-stop, and Aniston didn’t phone anything in.

    You think #2 on Ozark’s callsheet really got more to do than #1 on TMS’ callsheet? That seems like a copout, sorry. Both are leads on their show, sure. But it’s a completely different dynamic of storytelling.

    And by saying that one actor got more so-called baity material than another on a different show, you’re dismissing what the first actor actually did with all that material they were given.

    The presence of meaty, dense, “baity” material alone doesn’t magically conjure up an award-winning performance. There’s far more to it than that.

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    Not here for this Smith-Cameron erasure. She certainly had material, particularly in the second season – she didn’t have “nothing to do,” she is one of the most prominent supporting characters. Comparing the size of her role to Abbass is ridiculous.

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    acting awards arent fair

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    I think everyone agrees Linney has the best performance but it’s not like the best performance always wins…

    But voters have been pretty spot on the last few years: Davis, Maslany, Moss, Foy and Comer.

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    But voters have been pretty spot on the last few years: Davis, Maslany, Moss, Foy and Comer.

    Of course, but we can’t deny all of them had some kind of narrative to help them get the win on top of their performances

    Davis: first black woman to win
    Maslany: huge internet push/pressure for her to be recognized for years
    Moss: overdue since mad men
    Foy: last chance to award her for the role
    Comer: probably the only one without a narrative

    I’m sure a lot of people here consider Foy should have won over Moss, or that Russell was the best in the years she got nominated, ultimately its subjective to say they always got it right. I’ll predict Linney to win like most people here, but Aniston is coming in strong with a stronger narrative, I can see why people are still going to predict her despite her arguably inferior performance.

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