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  • estrelasdealgeruz
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    Exactly. Just this needs to be said. Beryl was one of the Best Supporting Actress submissions ever. Foy deserved her win for Dear Mrs Kennedy. And those are only two episodes I’ve named because I can’t control myself. I love how this forum jumps from hating on Westworld to loving it, hating on the Handmaids Tale to loving it, loving Big Little Lies then hating it and now The Crown. The irony.

    IMO ‘Paterfamilias’ was by far the best episode of season 2, closely followed by ‘Beryl’ and ‘Dear Mrs. Kennedy’. Then you also had incredible episodes like ‘Lisbon’, ‘Marionettes’, ‘Vergangenheit’ and ‘Matrimonium’.  Both Claire Foy and Vanessa Kirby were phenomenal in season 2 and Vanessa should’ve won the Emmy as well.

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    methaddiction
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    Many people expected Garner. I seem to recall she was in first in the odds on here. Regardless of love for the show, the stars very clearly aligned that year for those wins. Sapochnik’s direction was acclaimed, but many people hated the episode anyway, and there wasn’t really a super strong runner up. And Garner clearly benefited from Game of Thrones’ actresses vote splitting and Shaw not having much passion.

    Garner would’ve won anyway it didn’t matter how many Game of Thrones actresses were nominated they didn’t care about anyone on the show except Peter Dinklage.

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    forwardswill
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    I feel from The Crown because it’s the only show in contention following an all-time great season of television. I was disappointed in this season (as I expressed in The Crown thread ) but even then it’s still a terrific show with so many excellent performances and the best written episode of the season (“Moondust”).

    Also, perhaps the biggest problem the show has is of course that Olivia Colman. I notice a good few people said it would be anticlimactic if The Crown won Series for this season but that feels both moot (because let’s be honest it aint happening) but also unfair when the series is still of higher quality than most of its competition. Why should it be punished for having been better in the past when Game of Thrones wasn’t? What we should be talking about is how disappointing it will be if Colman wins and the series doesn’t when her miscasting is essentially undermined the show more than anything.

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    Tyler
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    I agree. Ozark sight unseen, what show this season besides Succession is

    a) of higher quality than the Crown
    b) competing for their best season

    THT, BLL, ST, and probably WW all miss both of those criteria. The other option is BCS, which very well may be having its best season and be better than The Crown S3, but few posters watch it so it’s underrepresented both here and at the Emmys.

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    Kay
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    Your opinion on the show does not equate to its awards prospects, believe it or not. We all share opinions here but you seem to be backing up your claim that Ozark will do better at the Emmys by simply stating your opinion. The writing stat is telling. I also find it funny that you think it’s “made for awards” when it couldn’t be quieter, outside of maybe Lithgow in S1. Yeah, it’ll do great with crafts, but regarding the actual ceremony there is no screaming, no fits, no scenes shoe-horned it to be Emmy tapes. It’s literally a plot point in Season 3 that the Queen doesn’t cry. The acting and writing works hard for subtle, intelligent, emotional pay offs, which it doesn’t sound like you can appreciate. If you’d like to watch a show “made for awards”, might I suggest This is Us or The Handmaid’s Tale. EDIT: also, it’s funny that you think Crown is awards bait when your profile picture is from a Game of Thrones scene in which D+D were practically getting on their hands and knees begging for a directing Emmy. I mean the shot with Daenerys and the wings? Try-hards.

    My opinion is irrelevant here and has always been. One user suggested that Ozark might be ahead of The Crown and listed his/ her reasons for saying so. I echoed his/ her sentiments by saying Ozark is better than The Crown anyways and deserves to be ahead just on quality alone… not that it actually is or anything like that. I know the forum posters hate Ozark anyways so I’m not surprised here that my comments are unpopular and subject to collective giggles, quotes and essays like yours. Of course the acting on The Crown isn’t flashy, but acting isn’t the only thing considered for awards.

    If you’re struggling with season 2 then i don’t how you survived this far because season 1 is way slower than season 2. In fact season 2 is one of the best seasons I’ve seen from any show. Obviously it depends on whomever is watching the show but imo season 2 has some of the best tv episodes of recent years.

    I really don’t hate The Crown. I actually like it. But I feel like it’s one of those shows you think you’re supposed to like but it really doesn’t inspire devotion. I’m not hell bent on getting to the next episode after finishing one. Season 2 is definitely better than season 1 but there’s nothing that makes me want to continue watching and watching until it’s over. I can stop now and watch the next episode five months later. Hence my saying that it’s quite “boring”. “Boring” and “bad” are not the same thing. For instance, another unpopular opinion, I liked Breaking Bad, most times I found it boring, but certainly not bad. I could get up in the middle of an episode and make coffee and not have to worry about rewinding it when I get back but can never do that with attention- grabbing and a bit fast- paced shows like Westworld, Game of Thrones, Succession and Stranger Things.

    But anyways, this is so unnecessary because both Ozark and The Crown are getting nominated anyways, no matter the odds.

     

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    Mukund
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    Many people expected Garner. I seem to recall she was in first in the odds on here. Regardless of love for the show, the stars very clearly aligned that year for those wins. Sapochnik’s direction was acclaimed, but many people hated the episode anyway, and there wasn’t really a super strong runner up. And Garner clearly benefited from Game of Thrones’ actresses vote splitting and Shaw not having much passion.

    She was the frontrunner by a very healthy margin. Almost the double the amount of people were predicting her compared to second place Headey.

    Ozark literally beat GoT in its last season. Nobody predicted Bateman to win directing, if that’s not a significant win then I don’t know what is. And you’re just downplaying Garner’s win by saying that the stars aligned for her. Her performance is clearly loved, you don’t just win an Emmy, especially at her age and stature in the industry, if it’s not. She’s also been nominated at SAG. And Foy was always a strong possibility to win drama actress that year. From what I remember, Moss was the perceived front runner but was super vulnerable because THT didn’t perform as well as its first season. It was really between Foy and Russell and The Americans never did extremely well at the Emmy’s. It winning for Rhys and writing was already an over performance for its standards. I’d definitely say Ozark’s wins are more impressive because they weren’t expected.

    And The Crown also beat Game of Thrones in directing, arguably under circumstances where it was less susceptible to lose. I’m not saying Garner’s performance isn’t loved but I think it would be foolish to think that many things did not go her way to make that win possible.

    The Crown’s wins weren’t expected either. Paterfamilias was barely predicted by anyone. Casting was a surprise as well and it’s worth noting that GoT went back to winning it in 2019 because there wasn’t a strong enough contender to beat it this time.

    As for Foy, she was a very soft second. Both Oh and Russell had nearly similar support, Oh more so, but Moss and THT were such decisive frontrunners that almost 5 times more people were predicting Moss than these guys. No one knew THT was underperforming until the ceremony. It was expected to win 4/5 categories it won last time. Foy’s win was still a pretty big upset all things considered. Like more people were predicting Emilia Clarke this year than Claire Foy in 2018.

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    Garner would’ve won anyway it didn’t matter how many Game of Thrones actresses were nominated they didn’t care about anyone on the show except Peter Dinklage.

    Reliving Headey’s losses is giving me heart pain. But if anyone was going to beat her last year, then Garner, who not only deserved it but whose career has since sky-rocketed! I’m ready for more Ruth Langmore!

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM."

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    Reliving Headey’s losses is giving me heart pain. But if anyone was going to beat her last year, then Garner, who not only deserved it but whose career has since sky-rocketed! I’m ready for more Ruth Langmore!

    Heady should’ve won for season 5 and 6. It’s upsetting that she never won, but her winning last year when she did absolutely nothing would’ve been wrong.

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    Ive been saying for months Ozark is an enormous threat. Especially now with the Crown not causing as much noise as it expected to.
    Watch out for it… I’m really not on board tbh

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    Jays
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    Heady should’ve won for season 5 and 6. It’s upsetting that she never won, but her winning last year when she did absolutely nothing would’ve been wrong.

    I still standby Cersei’s death scene being the best acting that was done the last season.

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    Mukund
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    Westworld S3 fell almost 10 points on Metacritic since the first reviews came. Let’s wait till Ozark’s score settles before anointing it as anything.

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    Luca
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    I’m not about to call Ozark a threat to win until I’ve actually seen the season – because it’s coming nowhere near the win if it’s as messy and sluggish as S1 & 2 – but what it has that The Crown and, to an extent, Succession don’t have, is broad appeal. The Crown isn’t everyone’s jam. Not everyone loves stylish, stuffy, highbrow period dramas – in both film and on TV. And Succession’s subject matter is most certainly not something that will appeal to everyone. But people love gritty crime shows like Ozark – gritty crime shows with big, showy performces and an ostentatiously dark tone. That’s why I think it’s at least in the top 3 now.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM."

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    DvirBA
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    Westworld S3 fell almost 10 points on Metacritic since the first reviews came. Let’s wait till Ozark’s score settles before anointing it as anything.

    I don’t think Metacritic is such a factor in this case (or at any case for that matter, but that’s a discussion for another place). It is clearly apparent that the Academy in particular has a strong appeal to Ozark, and despite 59 for season 2 it managed to snatch 2 major wins in the main ceremony last year, one of them completely out of the blue.

    Don’t get me wrong I still think Succession got Series/Writing/Directing in the bag for now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Ozark takes one of them undeservedly again.

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    thatnerdgreg
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    I still standby Cersei’s death scene being the best acting that was done the last season.

    I’ll hand that title to Jaime knighting Brienne. Both actors were stellar in that scene.

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    Mukund
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    I don’t think Metacritic is such a factor in this case (or at any case for that matter, but that’s a discussion for another place).

    I don’t think we would be having this conversation of Ozark possibly winning series if it was in the 60s on Metacritic.

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