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    I just watched episode 9 of Ozark and this has got to be Linney’s year. Her work all season long, but in this episode in particular, is probably some of the best acting work I have seen all year. That entire episode broke my heart into pieces, mainly due to her performance. Also, how could they not nominate Tom Pelphrey? He has to be in, and he has to be competitive for the win. Whether he chooses episode 8 or 9, what he did was more impactful than anything I’ve seen from anyone in the supporting actor race. I’ve said my piece on Garner already (she might really repeat), but I will have to make room for McTeer because her presence is too magnetic. The entire main cast will be nominated. And the show, for me, just cemented itself as the best one in the running for drama series (I haven’t seen Succession S2 yet). It deserves the world for this third season, which has honestly turned the tide, coming from someone who was mildly entertained by the first two outings.

    Is he competing in Supporting or Guest?

    FYC Emmys:

    THE CROWN

    Jane Lapotaire (Drama Guest Actress)
    Helena Bonham Carter (Drama Supporting Actress)
    Josh O'Connor (Drama Supporting Actor)
    Olivia Colman (Drama Actress)
    Tobias Menzies (Drama Actor)
    Charles Dance (Drama Guest Actor)

    KILLING EVE

    Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh (Drama Actress)
    Fiona Shaw (Drama Supporting Actress)
    Evgenia Dodina (Drama Guest Actress)
    Sean Delaney (Drama Guest Actor)

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    methaddiction
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    Supporting.

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    Luca
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    I know I shouldn’t make double posts, but my first one would be too long, lol.

    I’m sure you understand why this comparison is extremely flawed. Yvonne will struggle to get the nomination, so saying “don’t overcomplicate it, Yvonne is winning” would just be ridiculous, while multiple factors indicate that HBC is actually the frontrunner.

    Sure. I rather meant that I’m called out for such behavior only because it’s referring to Yvonne, while the same being said about HBC is fine. I don’t mean the weight/validity of the prediction itself, but rather how everyone else is delusional for not predicting it. You know what I mean?

    I think that person was me. But i didn’t say you were ridicolous to think she didn’t deserve to win. I said it was bit ridicolous to say that she shouldn’t even be in contention because you replied to someone, i don’t remember who it was, saying that for you she wouldn’t be a contender. To wich i replied saying that was a bit ridicolous. Sorry for the messy reply. Just to make things clear, i never meant to be disrespectful in any way.

    I don’t remember who it was, but even if it was you, you really don’t owe me an apology (as sweet as that is)! I improperly convey my thoughts quite often, so I probably crossed a line back then. I personally wouldn’t nominate her, and that won’t change, but just comes down to the fact that I liked other performances more. I’ve also never been a HBC fan – as in, I haven’t seen all too much of her other work. So she isn’t royalty for me, if you know what I mean. So, as a result, her performance was great and all, but nothing special. But I know we’ll have to agree to disagree, and that’s fine 🙂

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    Imagine thinking Ozark is a great series just because they outdid themselves with season 3. Lol! Honeys, what we are NOT going to do is to pretend Ozark is half good Breaking Bad.

    You’re the only one comparing them.

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    to be devils advocate, both those series had already established themselves as Emmy favorites and were critically-praised shows at one point. Including these two past their peak shows makes an argument that Westworld, The Handmaids Tale, or Big Little Lies will stay in despite being considered pretty average, rather than a new show with little critical support (I can’t think of a first season show with reviews as bad as TMS that got into series).

    Downton Abbey was admittedly not the best example, but House of Cards seemed to have even support for years. It fell out of some key places like writing, directing and editing, but this was offset by gains with the acting branch. Its second and fourth seasons each got thirteen nominations. The third season only got eleven, but it compensated by winning multiple Emmys, unlike them. Bit premature to say, but Big Little Lies and The Handmaid’s Tale went from sweeping the Emmys to where we saw them at the guilds a few months ago, which I would say was worse than where House of Cards was in middle of its run. “The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long.” House of Cards‘ critical acclaim was indeed behind it though.

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    Sure. I rather meant that I’m called out for such behavior only because it’s referring to Yvonne, while the same being said about HBC is fine. I don’t mean the weight/validity of the prediction itself, but rather how everyone else is delusional for not predicting it. You know what I mean?

    You’re constantly coming for other users by calling their predictions “ludicrous”, “delusional” or “wishful thinking”. Don’t victimize yourself because people drag you in return.

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    We are likely headed to a supporting category with 8 nominees : Ozark x2, THT x2, BLL x2, Newton and HBC, which would look really good for the last 2.

    THT isn’t getting two actresses in that category, even 1 is wishful thinking at this point. The fact is that the TV academy will NOT extend the possibilities for the likes of Ann Dowd and/or Ivonne S….Ki

    THT might have been dropped by WGA, PGA etc but it was NOT dropped by SAG which gave it an Ensemble nomination in addition to Moss. Thinking the acting branch who gave it 3 guest actress wins and 3 supporting actresses nominations the last time it was really contending is going to drop it when there is no sign of such possibility is purely bias and delusion. Strahovski and Dowd are as competitive as the rest.

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    I think Handmaid’s could lose out on a directing nom despite breaking into other categories. Not because the quality isn’t there, but S3 had more directors than past seasons, which could result in oversubmitting (a la Westworld), but I guess we’ll see know very soon which episodes will be submitted.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    Imagine thinking Ozark is a great series just because they outdid themselves with season 3. Lol! Honeys, what we are NOT going to do is to pretend Ozark is half good Breaking Bad.

    I know Ozark is similar in concept to Breaking Bad, and from what I’ve seen it’s no where close to being on its level, but we shouldn’t condemn a show for not being half as good as Breaking Bad, as that applies to about 99.9% of all shows.

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    Right, I’ll put an end to any confusion that may be at play right now…The Morning Show and Big Little Lies WILL BOTH be nominated for Best Drama.

    With everyone staying at home and returning to television now more than ever, HBO should have no trouble introducing BLL to new viewers and promoting it again for FYC campaigns. I’ve seen some comments about how it ‘came and went’ in the summer. I remember it being the most buzzed about and widely discussed show last year? The lead up to its release was loud and there were so many discussions and reactions after each airing. It definitely felt like old school “appointment tv”. The general consensus was that it did a 180 mid way through and swapped an investigation for a court case and that hurt it, but it still took a crap on 99% of every other show out there. BLL will go down as a classic. The Academy better realise that and not go sparse on its nominations.

    And one thing that is stopping TMS from blowing up the way it could is accessibility. I’ve asked so many friends if they’ve watched the show and everyone says “The Jennifer Aniston/Reese Witherspoon one? I don’t know how to”. Apple need to make it known that you can download the app to any smart tv (it’s stupid but somewhat(?) understandable they don’t do it for Android mobiles as well but whatever) and they should make it free to everybody right now. Splash a fancy ad campaign on social media and people will binge the hell out of it. I really dont understand why Apple need me to tell them what to do because if they do, TMS will ride the buzz all the way to an over performance at the Emmys (because like I said, it’s already getting in for Drama Series and Reese will give a standing ovation when Jennifer wins Lead Actress and Jennifer will return the favour when Reese collects her trophy for Limited Actress).

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    I feel like HBC might be the safe bet for Supporting Actress, I really love Garner and would love for her to repeat, but it is so hard to repeat in this category. The last time for a repeat was Anna Gunn for Breaking Bad in 2013, 2014. Who knows?

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    Helena Bonham Carter was perfect, but I hope she wins for a great season four instead. She never got the material that Vanessa Kirby did, and “Cri de Coeur” was good but no Margaret episode of the season came close to “Beryl”.

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    I would love to see Amirah Vann who plays Tegan Price on How To Get Away With Murder get nominated for Supporting Actress. She has a very competitive submission if nominated.

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    I feel like HBC might be the safe bet for Supporting Actress, I really love Garner and would love for her to repeat, but it is so hard to repeat in this category. The last time for a repeat was Anna Gunn for Breaking Bad in 2013, 2014. Who knows?

    This is the exact reason why I can’t realistically predict Garner to repeat. It hasn’t happened since Gunn (I am writing an article on that very soon). I think voters are really in this spread-the-wealth mood, within a category across different years as well as across all categories in a singular year. Hence, I think HBC is probably the safest bet, but I’m still going with Strahovski simply because she’s my main push and because I could see her pulling a Newton. The nomination will be the hurdle for her, and she really has to hope for no internal competition. This category is bound to have more than 6 nominees.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    Both the equivalent male category and the equivalent comedy category have had no problem repeating, so there being a string of different winners in drama supporting actress does not seem deliberate to me.

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