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    Kay
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    Just because you’re predicting someone doesn’t mean they’re the frontrunner.

    Okay?? Still… he is.

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    No one’s overestimating HTGAWM. We’d have to be talking about it to overestimate it, which we aren’t. We’re talking Viola Davis and Viola Davis only. But there’s no point in discussing because you seem to twist everything so that it fits the narrative you’re hopeful of. For instance, saying that Wood was nominated over Davis in 2018, when they were nominated alongside each other in 2017 (so saying it was, among others, Wood who edged her out is just a premature assumption). Or Viola being dropped by SAG when she was still able to snag two Emmy noms without preceding SAG noms (plus, Sandra was just dropped by SAG too, so is she automatically out?). But that’s the last thing I will say about this.

    I’m sorry this “fitting the narrative” argument is one of the funniest pieces of crap I’ve read on this site. I mean I could use the same argument for you predicting The Handmaid’s Tale to get a bucket load of acting Emmy nominations this year.

    Also with SAG, we know actors are still watching Killing Eve. They just nominated Jodie Comer at SAG.

    I’m going to leave it here but nonetheless I think this Lead Actress race is wide open in terms of a winner :

    Laura Linney – Acclaimed performance, won an Emmy for every role she has played, in one of the Drama Series frontrunners and aired at the right time.
    Jennifer Aniston – Hollywood film star returns to TV, work is said to be a revelation, won SAG and is in a first season show.
    Olivia Colman – I’m not even going to list why she could win.
    Jodie Comer – Has the tape, airing at the right time, won last year.
    Nicole Kidman – Won for the first season, has the performance and also she is Nicole Kidman.
    Viola Davis – Acclaimed final season, won for first season, could win à la Julianna Margulies in 2014. Has to battle for the nomination first.
    Mandy Moore – Acclaimed performance on the only Drama on network the TV Academy is watching. Has to battle for the nomination first.

    I don’t think Sandra Oh, Reese Witherspoon (BLL), Reese Witherspoon (TMS) or Claire Danes stand a chance.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Just because you’re predicting someone doesn’t mean they’re the frontrunner.

    I don’t know if he’s front runner for the win (probably isn’t) but Bateman is the safest of the bunch right now. Bateman is a lock for a nomination for Ozark, I think that much we can be sure of. Same can’t be said for the cast of Succession because of the inexplicable lukewarm reaction the actors are having towards the show.

    FYC - Drama

    Ozark | Linney/Aniston | Cox | Garner/HBC | Pelphrey

    FYC - Comedy

    Schitt's Creek | O'Hara | Danson/Carell | Gilpin/Murphy | Levy/Malkovich

    ...also here to defend Steve Carell in The Morning Show until the day I die

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    There are plenty of actors who missed Sag or Globe and were Emmy nominated. Westworld is an example.

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    Okay?? Still… he is.

    Even if you don’t think he’s winning, there’s still way more pointing to Cox being the frontrunner than there is towards Bateman.

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    Even if you don’t think he’s winning, there’s still way more pointing to Cox being the frontrunner than there is towards Bateman.

    Other than the fact that Succession will probably win Drama Series there is nothing else Bateman has two previous nominations and a SAG win Cox doesn’t and this isn’t me being biased I don’t care for Bateman on the show and if Strong is nominated with him that only hurts his chances of actually winning.

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    Other than the fact that Succession will probably win Drama Series there is nothing else Bateman has two previous nominations and a SAG win Cox doesn’t and this isn’t me being biased I don’t care for Bateman on the show and if Strong is nominated with him that only hurts his chances of actually winning.

    I get what you’re saying, but the point still stands that most everyone has called Cox the frontrunner for months now, and this might be the first time I’ve heard that title being contested. If almost everyone says he’s the frontrunner, that’s a pretty strong sign that, even if he ends up losing, he’s the frontrunner.

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    I can’t see Cox and Strong missing, even if Snook misses. Both Cox and Strong have been doing a ton of campaigning, I mean I am subscribed to the mailing list a bunch of papers such as NYT or the London Times and Cox has been everywhere.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Also with SAG, we know actors are still watching Killing Eve. They just nominated Jodie Comer at SAG.

    This proves exactly the point I was making. Jodie’s SAG nom means squat about Killing Eve’s viewership. And even if it did, viewership isn’t the be-all and end-all of predictions. And again, if you were using that as an argument, Succession should be very low in your predictions while Handmaid’s, Stranger Things, BLL, etc. should be much higher.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    How is saying that Cox is a frontrunner ,cocky’ when he’s literally widely considered as such?

    Experts: Cox
    Editors: Cox
    Top 24 Users: Cox
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    If Jason Bateman wins, then it would be because of the popularity of Ozark and not his performance. There are a number of actors that would be more deserving of Best Actor in a Drama before Jason Bateman.

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    Yeah, I like Jason Bateman, and while I thought he was great in this past season, Cox, Strong, and Odenkirk are all so much more deserving. I might add Menzies to that list as well.

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    I will add Sterling K. Brown and Billy Porter to that list.

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    And Rami Malek and Jonathan Groff (who aren’t getting nominated but should).

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Way to shove words into my mouth. I wasn’t trying to make some huge argument for Strong or anyone else who got snubbed at that ceremony, but just stated a simple fact. I’m not saying, nor have I ever implied that Strong is a lock, but you acted like him missing the Globes is the death curse for him, which it’s not. All I’m saying is there’s an extremely long list of people who made the cut at the Globes but didn’t get into the Emmys, and vice versa.

    I believe your post was supposed to counter the point I made, so it should count as an argument, shouldn’t it?

    Anyway, I’ve never stated or acted like Strong is getting snubbed because he wasn’t nominated at the Globes or that it is the ‘death curse’ for him. I’m not the one dealing in absolutes here. I’m not even discussing his nomination chances per se. I don’t know how many times I have to state that. Like the discussion was about something and has been made into something else entirely.

    I’m just disagreeing with the notion that if Succession wins, Strong will be nominated for sure when the exact opposite has happened before. He might be nominated. He might not be. Saying that the Globes are different doesn’t excuse that (though it seems you were making a point that I wasn’t even talking about), especially when I’ve stated above how Globes are more likely to award a show and recognize the ‘buzziest’ cast member. Again, not saying he will be snubbed definitely. Just that there’s precedent for it so it could happen.

    I’m seriously tired of people misconstruing something and then running along with it just for the sake of it.

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