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    Chris Beachum
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    Continue the drama talk in Part 9.

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    Seeming a new thread has been started here are my updated series and main four acting top 10s :

    DRAMA SERIES

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. The Crown (Netflix)
    3. Ozark (Netflix)
    4. The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)
    5. Big Little Lies (HBO)
    6. Better Call Saul (AMC)
    7. Stranger Things (Netflix)
    8. The Morning Show (AppleTV+)
    9. This is Us (NBC)
    10. The Outsider (HBO)

    DRAMA ACTRESS

    1. Laura Linney, Ozark
    2. Jennifer Aniston, The Morning Show
    3. Olivia Colman, The Crown
    4. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Reese Witherspoon, The Morning Show
    6. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
    7. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
    8. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
    9. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
    10. Claire Danes, Homeland

    DRAMA ACTOR

    1. Brian Cox, Succession
    2. Jason Bateman, Ozark
    3. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
    4. Jeremy Strong, Succession
    5. Tobias Menzies, The Crown
    6. Billy Porter, Pose
    7. Sterling K Brown, This is Us
    8. Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us
    9. Steve Carell, The Morning Show
    10. Rami Malek, Mr. Robot

    DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS

    1. Helena Bonham Carter, The Crown
    2. Julia Garner, Ozark
    3. Janet McTeer, Ozark
    4. Sarah Snook, Succession
    5. Meryl Streep, Big Little Lies
    6. Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    7. Yvonne Strahovski, The Handmaid’s Tale
    8. Gugu Mbatha-Raw, The Morning Show
    9. Millie Bobby Brown, Stranger Things
    10. Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve

    DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR

    1. Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    2. Tom Pelphrey, Ozark
    3. Josh O’Connor, The Crown
    4. Bradley Whitford, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. David Harbour, Stranger Things
    6. Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    7. Kieran Culkin, Succession
    8. Matthew MacFadyen, Succession
    9. Mandy Patinkin, Homeland
    10. Jason Watkins, The Crown

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    Not having Westworld in the top 10 anywhere seems a bit odd to me. I’m saying it’s actually going to be shortlisted anywhere, but I’d at least say it’s on the cusp of a nomination in many different categories. For instance, I’d say that Wood (and Davis) are pretty firmly ahead of Sandra Oh in drama actress (maybe even Jodie Comer); Thandie Newton has got to be somewhere in the top 10, if not top 8, to be honest; and we already had the Jeffrey Wright and Ed Harris discussion yesterday, so I won’t repeat.

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    I disagree about Wood and Davis. Wood is definitely below Jodie Comer but we don’t actually know whether Westworld has any support from actors left (or rather whether Wood has any). Wood has never been nominated for an individual SAG award whilst Aniston, Colman, Comer, Danes, Davis, Kidman, Linney, Moss and Oh all have. I have Oh ahead of Davis for reasons I mentioned yesterday so I won’t repeat that. As for Westworld in Series I have it 11th. I firmly believe in the top 7 but I think we’re having a line up of 8, anything from 8th to 12th (where I have Killing Eve) could plausibly get that last slot.

    I also have Newton in 11th but as I said for Series, anything that is in 8th to 11th can plausibly get in.

    With Westworld we (me included) need to stop acting like its the same show it was in 2017 or 2018. We already know it has lost support from the actors, writers and directors, its viewership has gone drastically down despite the fact it is airing whilst everyone is at home and its critical reception is weaker. It could still get in (I hope it does) and Newton could still get in but I don’t see how it gets in over contenders from Succession, The Morning Show, Big Little Lies, The Handmaid’s Tale, Ozark, The Crown, Killing Eve, This is Us or Stranger Things (which despite having lots of things that hurt them have way more things in their favour than Westworld does at the moment).

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    For instance, I’d say that Wood (and Davis) are pretty firmly ahead of Sandra Oh in drama actress (maybe even Jodie Comer)

    ok, but why? I feel like I’m constantly the one talking down Westworld’s chances which I don’t mean to do because I love Newton and Wood’s performances, but I just don’t understand why we don’t see it as more of a non-starter like a lot of people assume Stranger Things is.

    first of all, Succession missed SAG ensemble to five of the most populous shows on TV and there’s discussion of it being weak in the actors branch, meanwhile Westworld missed to two critical darlings that aren’t all too popular with the masses. That was sort of a plain and simple rejection from that branch. Of course there’s the argument that at least actors watched Westworld in the past but who’s in a better slot? A rejected show that people used to watch or a buzzy show very much on the uphill?

    secondly specific to Wood, Comer got individual SAG over Kidman (not to say she’s ahead of her but still). Love for Oh was greater than love for Killing Eve at one time. As great as Wood is, she was never signaled out the way Oh, Anniston, Davis or frankly Newton were as the best part of the show. She went along for the ride of her show rather than carrying it herself. The crappy season of KE is a wash with the crappy season of WW, only difference is the actors might not be over their love affair with Comer (and maybe even Oh). Not to mention the stark ratings decline. Point being, I think having Wood in 10th and Newton missing actually makes a whole lot of sense, but maybe I’ll be wrong!

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    For instance, I’d say that Wood (and Davis) are pretty firmly ahead of Sandra Oh in drama actress (maybe even Jodie Comer)

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    I think Killing Eve is being completely blanked this time around, though Comer should most definitely not be counted out.

    Tyler, you made great p⅕oints! I don’t have Westworld in anywhere for acting, so I very much agree. I’m just very concerned that I am underestimating it, like we do every year here, haha. But that finale might have killed its chances.

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    I’m predicting Newton cause I’m done pretending the voters aren’t lazy. Too much frustration in the past.

    I don’t think it will matter much for her (or maybe Harris/Wright) the fact that season 3 flopped because a bunch of voters wouldn’t watch the show anyway but still would feel pretty guilty for not checking Newton’s box.
    Will these voters be enough? I don’t know, ask Jonathan Banks.

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    I never do, but let me post mine:

    DRAMA SERIES

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. The Crown (Netflix)
    3. Ozark (Netflix)
    4. Better Call Saul (AMC)
    5. Big Little Lies (HBO)
    6. The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)
    7. Stranger Things (Netflix)
    8. This Is Us (NBC)
    9. The Morning Show (Apple+)
    10. Westworld (HBO)

    DRAMA ACTRESS

    1. Jennifer Aniston, The Morning Show
    2. Laura Linney, Ozark
    3. Olivia Colman, The Crown
    4. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
    6. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
    7. Mandy Moore, This Is Us
    8. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
    9. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
    10. Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld

    DRAMA ACTOR

    1. Jason Bateman, Ozark
    2. Brian Cox, Succession
    3. Sterling K Brown, This is Us
    4. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
    5. Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us
    6. Jeremy Strong, Succession
    7. Tobias Menzies, The Crown
    8. Steve Carell, The Morning Show
    9. Billy Porter, Pose
    10. Aaron Paul, Westworld

    DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS

    1. Helena Bonham Carter, The Crown
    2. Julia Garner, Ozark
    3. Thandie Newton, Westworld
    4. Meryl Streep, Big Little Lies
    5. Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    6. Sarah Snook, Succession
    7. Janet McTeer, Ozark
    8. Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale
    9. Yvonne Strahovski, The Handmaid’s Tale
    10. Millie Bobby Brown, Stranger

    DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR

    1. Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    2. Tom Pelphrey, Ozark
    3. Kieran Culkin, Succession
    4. Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    5. David Harbor, Stranger Things
    6. Bradley Whitford, The Handmaid’s Tale
    7. Chris Sullivan, This Is Us
    8. Jeffrey Wright, Westworld
    9. Ed Harris, Westworld
    10. Matthew MacFadyen, Succession

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    Speaking of Bill Crudup (since he tops Kay’s predictions), I rewatched The Morning Show’s pilot recently and I realized that I never appreciated Crudup’s work enough. His line delivery is impeccable; the way he toys with his lines is just nothing short of brilliant. I still prefer Pelphrey, Patinkin and Whitford in this race, but heck, I can’t be disappointed if he wins.

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    On the topic of Westworld, I feel like the only reason it’s still being taken seriously is because of its prior nomination hauls for the first two seasons. As it’s been said before, the show is not what it used to be, and the combination of a poorly received season and the gap between seasons is likely going to result in a much lower nomination count.

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    I also think we’ve already seen shows that return after a year out with poorer reception already go down in Emmy nominations even if they are Emmy darlings. Look at Veep last year, we were all predicting it to win after a year off but who’s to say it didn’t come 5th after Fleabag, Maisel, Barry and Schitt’s Creek (and I’m saying this as someone who loves Veep) due to less buzz and its lower audience reception? Same thing with Silicon Valley this year with less buzz. Even GoT almost lost Drama Series in 2018 to The Crown after taking a year off (even losing acting nominations we thought it was easy for it to get).

    ok, but why? I feel like I’m constantly the one talking down Westworld’s chances which I don’t mean to do because I love Newton and Wood’s performances, but I just don’t understand why we don’t see it as more of a non-starter like a lot of people assume Stranger Things is. first of all, Succession missed SAG ensemble to five of the most populous shows on TV and there’s discussion of it being weak in the actors branch, meanwhile Westworld missed to two critical darlings that aren’t all too popular with the masses. That was sort of a plain and simple rejection from that branch. Of course there’s the argument that at least actors watched Westworld in the past but who’s in a better slot? A rejected show that people used to watch or a buzzy show very much on the uphill? secondly specific to Wood, Comer got individual SAG over Kidman (not to say she’s ahead of her but still). Love for Oh was greater than love for Killing Eve at one time. As great as Wood is, she was never signaled out the way Oh, Aniston, Davis or frankly Newton were as the best part of the show. She went along for the ride of her show rather than carrying it herself. The crappy season of KE is a wash with the crappy season of WW, only difference is the actors might not be over their love affair with Comer (and maybe even Oh). Not to mention the stark ratings decline. Point being, I think having Wood in 10th and Newton missing actually makes a whole lot of sense, but maybe I’ll be wrong!

    Couldn’t agree more!

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    Series:

    1. Succession
    2. Ozark
    3. The Crown
    4. Better Call Saul
    5. The Handmaid’s Tale
    6. Big Little Lies
    7. Stranger Things
    8. The Morning Show
    9. This is Us
    10. Killing Eve

    Actor:

    1. Brian Cox, Succession
    2. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul
    3. Jeremy Strong, Succession
    4. Jason Bateman, Ozark
    5. Tobias Menzies, The Crown
    6. Sterling K. Brown, This is Us
    7. Billy Porter, Pose
    8. Steve Carell, The Morning Show
    9. Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us
    10. Ben Mendelsohn, The Outsider

    Actress:

    1. Laura Linney, Ozark
    2. Olivia Colman, The Crown
    3. Jennifer Anniston, The Morning Show
    4. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
    6. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
    7. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
    8. Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld
    9. Mandy Moore, This is Us
    10. Viola Davis, How to Get Away With Murder

    Supporting Actor:

    1. Tom Pelphrey, Ozark
    2. Jonathon Banks, Better Call Saul
    3. Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    4. David Harbour, Stranger Things
    5. Kieran Culkin, Succession
    6. Josh O’Connor, The Crown
    7. Mathew Macfadyen, Succession
    8. Bradley Whitford, The Handmaid’s Tale
    9. Mandy Patinkin, Homeland
    10. Giancarlo Esposito, Better Call Saul

    Supporting Actress:

    1. Sarah Snook, Succession
    2. Helena Bonham Carter, The Crown
    3. Julia Garner, Ozark
    4. Janet McTeer, Ozark
    5. Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    6. Meryl Streep, Big Little Lies
    7. Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale
    8. Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve
    9. Thandie Newton, Westworld
    10. Rhea Seehorn, Better Call Saul

    Directing:

    1. The Crown
    2. Succession
    3. Better Call Saul
    4. Ozark
    5. The Handmaid’s Tale
    6. The Outsider
    7. Stranger Things
    8. Homeland
    9. The Crown
    10. Mindhunter

    Writing:

    1. Succession
    2. The Crown
    3. Better Call Saul
    4. The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Better Call Saul
    6. Stranger Things
    7. Ozark
    8. Killing Eve
    9. Mindhunter
    10. Big Little Lies

    Guest Actor:

    1. Charles Dance, The Crown
    2. Jason Bateman, The Outsider
    3. Ron Cephas Jones, This is Us
    4. Peter Meloni, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Gerard McRaney, This is Us
    6. Andrew Scott, Black Mirror
    7. James Cromwell, Succession
    8. OT Fagbenle, The Handmaid’s Tale
    9. Mark Lewis Jones, The Crown
    10. Asante Blackk, This is Us

    Guest Actress:

    1. Jane Lapotaire, The Crown
    2. Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    3. Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away With Murder
    4. Phylicia Rashad, This is Us
    5. Cherry Jones, Succession
    6. Jennifer Morrison, This is Us
    7. Cherry Jones, The Handmaid’s Tale
    8. Julie Dretzin, The Handmaid’s Tale
    9. Pamela Adlon, This is Us
    10. Laverne Cox, Orange is the New Black

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    I can’t see Stranger Things ahead of The Morning Show.

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    Westworld will be lucky to get Newton in.

    Also if Ventimiglia goes supporting he is a lock.

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