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    What about the Netflix antibias? I think is was discussed before, as a reason why it hasn’t win a series drama/comedy Emmy.

    I’d be curious to know how that theory started, given the vastly inferior and less regarded Amazon has managed to take home gold with their tiny bench of programming.

    And even if that theory held weight before, I don’t think it would apply now.

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    Also I don’t see Streep beating HBC unless Dern is snubbed like at the Globes.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Yeah, the writers have almost been most in line with the critical consensus, so I don’t see how Succession loses writing. It won last year for a “less” acclaimed first season (not saying it wasn’t acclaimed), so it’s not going to lose for a season that is considered to a master class in writing. I’d say Peter Morgan is comfortably in second place for The Crown, while I don’t think Ozark is anywhere near the top 3. It was snubbed last year, even when the show got 9 nominations. Who do I think is in third? Idk, probably Better Call Saul.

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    I can understand people predicting Ozark to be ahead of Succession in Series but there is no way it is ahead of it in Writing (especially considering Succession won Writing last year and Ozark has never been nominated for writing and is battling for the nomination).

    Just because one series won last year doesn’t mean another series can’t win the following year. And, again, non writers vote in this category.

    Ozark is still very much part of conversations, and I do think that this year the way people feel about their experience with a show might trump the way they think about a show.

    The entire industry shut down with the rest of the world, and it stands to reason that voters spent a lot of time watching a variety of current shows — including Little Fires Everywhere and Homeland, to name a couple.

    That COVID grading curve may mean that some winners across the board have an invisible asterisk next to their names for certain academy members and critics, but I do think it is a factor.

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    No one said that just because Succession won writing last year nothing else can win this year. The Crown imo is the only show that stands the tiniest of chances at beating Succession (and I’m not saying Succession will win because it won last year but if it won last year for a less buzzy season when it was probably 4th-6th in Drama Series then it has a better chance at winning when it is the frontrunner for Drama Series and has a buzzier season).

    I’d rank writing like this :

    1. Succession
    2. The Crown
    3. Better Call Saul
    4. The Outsider
    5. The Handmaid’s Tale
    6. Stranger Things
    7. Big Little Lies
    8. Ozark
    9. Killing Eve
    10. Better Call Saul

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    And, again, non writers vote in this category.

    They don’t and the difference in reception for the two shows by the writers is enough to tell you which show is winning. Succession is at worst first in this category IMO.

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    No one said that just because Succession won writing last year nothing else can win this year. The Crown imo is the only show that stands the tiniest of chances at beating Succession (and I’m not saying Succession will win because it won last year but if it won last year for a less buzzy season when it was probably 4th-6th in Drama Series then it has a better chance at winning when it is the frontrunner for Drama Series and has a buzzier season).

    I’d rank writing like this :

    1. Succession
    2. The Crown
    3. Better Call Saul
    4. The Outsider
    5. The Handmaid’s Tale
    6. Stranger Things
    7. Big Little Lies
    8. Ozark
    9. Killing Eve
    10. Better Call Saul

    No way Ozark is behind Big Little Lies, Stranger Things and The Outsider.

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    In Writing? Possibly. We have no proof that Ozark is going to land with writers just like we have no proof Succession is going to land with actors and the fact Netflix has submitted two episodes doesn’t help it very much.

    I see The Outsider being like Twin Peaks at the Emmys and getting Writing and Directing but nothing else. Big Little Lies and Stranger Things have been nominated for writing before so they could very well be ahead of Ozark.

    Don’t forget this is the same writing branch that snubbed Maisel last year.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I see The Outsider being like Twin Peaks at the Emmys

    Why though? There’s really no crossover at all.

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    I do not know if this is what he was getting at, but The Outsider overall gives off some Twin Peaks vibes.

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    I do not know if this is what he was getting at, but The Outsider overall gives off some Twin Peaks vibes.

    Beat me to it!

    Not only does the show give off some of those vibes but we’ve seen how the type of sci-fi horror mystery genre hasn’t really landed acting wise at the Emmys since The X Files. Twin Peaks (as deserving as it was) only got a writing and directing nominations in 2018 and I don’t think that was a coincidence. I think both branches seem to have some sort of taste for this type of genre and I feel like with the names Richard Price and Jason Bateman attached and the fact that it is based on a novel by Stephen King might help it get the edge over something like Ozark in writing (I think both Bateman and Ozark will get directing noms).

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    No way Ozark is behind Big Little Lies, Stranger Things and The Outsider.

    Seriously.

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    June Predictions

    Series

    1. Succession (HBO)
    2. The Crown (Netflix)
    3. Ozark (HBO)
    4. The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)
    5. Big Little Lies (HBO)
    6. Better Call Saul (AMC)
    7. Stranger Things (Netflix)
    8. The Morning Show (AppleTV+)

    9. This is Us (NBC)
    10. Westworld (HBO)/The Outsider (HBO)

    Lead Actor

    1. Brian Cox, Succession
    2. Jason Bateman, Ozark
    3. Bob Odenkirk, Better Call Saul

    4. Jeremy Strong, Succession
    5. Tobias Menzies, The Crown
    6. Sterling K Brown, This is Us
    7. Billy Porter, Pose
    8. Milo Ventimiglia, This is Us
    9. Steve Carell, The Morning Show
    10. Rami Malek, Mr. Robot

    Lead Actress

    1. Laura Linney, Ozark
    2. Olivia Colman, The Crown
    3. Jennifer Aniston, The Morning Show
    4. Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Reese Witherspoon, The Morning Show
    6. Nicole Kidman, Big Little Lies
    7. Jodie Comer, Killing Eve
    8. Sandra Oh, Killing Eve

    9. Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
    10. Claire Danes, Homeland/Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld/Reese Witherspoon, Big Little Lies

    Supporting Actress

    1. Helena Bonham Carter, The Crown
    2. Julia Garner, Ozark
    3. Janet McTeer, Ozark
    4. Meryl Streep, Big Little Lies
    5. Sarah Snook, Succession
    6. Laura Dern, Big Little Lies
    7. Yvonne Strahovski, The Handmaid’s Tale

    8. Gugu Mbatha-Raw, The Morning Show
    9. Thandie Newton, Westworld
    10. Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale/Fiona Shaw, Killing Eve

    Supporting Actor

    1. Billy Crudup, The Morning Show
    2. Tom Pelphrey, Ozark
    3. Josh O’Connor, The Crown
    4. Bradley Whitford, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. David Harbour, Stranger Things
    6. Mark Duplass, The Morning Show

    7. Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    8. Kieran Culkin, Succession
    9. Matthew MacFadyen, Succession
    10. Joseph Fiennes, The Handmaid’s Tale

    Writing

    1. Jesse Armstrong, Succession (“Nobody is Ever Missing”)
    2. Peter Morgan, The Crown (“Aberfan”)
    3. Peter Gould & Ariel Levine, Better Call Saul (“Something Unforgivable”)
    4. Richard Price, The Outsider (“Fish in a Barrel”)
    5. Bruce Miller, The Handmaid’s Tale (“Mayday”)
    6. Alex Gansa and Howard Gordon, Homeland (“Prisoners of War”)

    7. The Duffer Brothers, Stranger Things (“Chapter Eight : The Gate”)
    8. David E. Kelley, Big Little Lies (“Tell Tale-Hearts”) (this is interchangeable with Ozark)
    9. Chris Mundy, Ozark (“All In”) (interchangeable with Big Little Lies)
    10. Peter Gould, Better Call Saul (“Magic Man”)

    Directing

    1. Mark Mylod, Succession (“This is Not For Tears”)
    2. Benjamin Caron, The Crown (“Aberfan”)
    3. Alik Sakharov, Ozark (“Fire Pink”)
    4. Jason Bateman, The Outsider (“Fish in a Barrel”)
    5. Lesli Linka Glatter, Homeland (“Prisoners of War”)
    6. The Duffer Brothers, Stranger Things (“Chapter Eight : The Gate”)

    7. Jessica Hobbes, The Crown (“Cri de Coeur”)
    8. Mike Barker, The Handmaid’s Tale (“Mayday”)
    9. Vince Gilligan, Better Call Saul (“Bagman”)
    10. Andrea Arnold, Big Little Lies (“Tell Tale-Hearts”)

    Guest Actor

    1. Charles Dance, The Crown
    2. Jason Bateman, The Outsider
    3. Ron Cephas Jones, This is Us
    4. OT Fagbenle, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Gerald McRaney, This is Us
    6. Andrew Scott, Black Mirror

    7. James Cromwell, Succession
    8. Mark Lewis Jones, The Crown
    9. Christopher Meloni, The Handmaid’s Tale
    10. Martin Short, The Morning Show

    Guest Actress

    1. Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    2. Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder
    3. Phylicia Rashad, This is Us
    4. Cherry Jones, The Handmaid’s Tale
    5. Cherry Jones, Succession
    6. Harriet Walter, Succession
    7. Jane Lapotaire, The Crown

    8. Julie Dretzin, The Handmaid’s Tale
    9. Mindy Kaling, The Morning Show
    10. Jennifer Morisson, This is Us

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    The confidence in Homeland in writing and directing is a bit strange to me. Believe me, Homeland is tied with Ozark as my favorite drama of the year, so I would absolutely love for it to get both nominations, but the last time it was nominated for writing was in 2013. Just because it had a great final season doesn’t mean it’s going to return. I see a lot of Good Wife comparisons – which make a whole lot of sense – but I’m not feeling it here, especially with this unbelievably crowded drama series field. A directing nom is something I see as being much more plausible since Lesli Linka Glatter is not only respected by her peers like no one else, but because she’s proven that she can get nominated without her show. What concerns me, however, is that she wasn’t able to get in over two Ozark episodes in 2018, for a season that was pretty darn spectacular.

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