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    Y’all know full well this needs it’s own thread all because it breaks our brain and clogs up half the drama talk.

    If Shaw wins supporting, where does that place her?

    Does the lack of love for Netflix on the first night ring warning bells for Garner?

    If we took Garner and Shaw out of the race, which of the GoT ladies wins?

    Can we conduct this conversation purely by the language of GIF and visual media?

    Please enjoy debate and a likely flurry of the internet’s very finest Lena Headey/Cersei Lannister GIFs.

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    DvirBA
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    I think this could also serve as a support group after the ceremony is done for those of us that’ll have to deal with the very unfortunate yet likely reality of Cersei Lannister never getting the Emmys she deserves

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    Kellyemm
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    Questions:

    1. Is the Netflix shows not getting much love factor a thing?

    2. Does Shaw’s win / loss @ Creative Arts mean anything for her?

    3. Does Van Houten’s win / loss @ the Creative Arts mean anything for the GOT ladies?

    4. There’s been one winner under 30 in 40 years. How much of a factor is this?

    5. Who had the best episode? Do we ACTUALLY think it matters?

    6. Who is your 1) and 2) and 3)?

     

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    DvirBA
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    If Van Houten wins tonight it would still mean nothing for the GoT ladies, it will only show GoT has the support in the acting branch but it doesn’t fix the vote splitting issue

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    Luca
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    If Van Houten wins tonight it would still mean nothing for the GoT ladies, it will only show GoT has the support in the acting branch but it doesn’t fix the vote splitting issue

    This. It’d mean zero. I mean, Wiley was able to overcome two co-stars last year, and then Handmaid’s went on to get shut out. Same with Williams in comedy guest actor.

    Oscar FYC - Lupita Nyong'o & Elisabeth Moss ("Us") - Best Actress & Supporting Actress. It must happen; otherwise the Tethered are coming.

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    And who has the better story than…. Gwendoline Christie?

     

    I feel she has the most chance from GoT group to win in this category. She had her best season yet, the whole narrative around her works. Unconventional look, self-submitting, strong female character, right age, the most popular show.

     

     

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    Stegeo
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    Uhm, last year the THT ladies were up against sublime work by Newton, Headey and Kirby. This year, we have Shaw doing absolutely nothing in Killing Eve and a young rising star in a show that aired a year ago. If the popular vote is still with the GoT ladies, one of them could still win. But I don’t think they’ll win after all lol.

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    And who has the better story than…. Gwendoline Christie? I feel she has the most chance from GoT group to win in this category. She had her best season yet, the whole narrative around her works. Unconventional look, self-submitting, strong female character, right age, the most popular show.

    Gwendoline is (unabashedly) my favourite based on performance this year (followed by Garner) but the variations on that vote split is so hard to predict. Do we feel like it really is a strong four way? So many of us are discounting Turner getting many votes at all, yet GoT were the ones who submitted Turner over Christie in the first place and they clearly weren’t completely mad given she got a nom…?

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    This. It’d mean zero. I mean, Wiley was able to overcome two co-stars last year, and then Handmaid’s went on to get shut out. Same with Williams in comedy guest actor.

    I think it would absolutely mean something. First, the show has enough support from the actors to win for someone who isn’t Dinklage, which bodes well for the other cast members at the main telecast. Second, if a relatively unknown actress like Van Houten who isn’t even playing a fan favourite character can win over big names like Lange, Jones and Rashad then maybe Game of Thrones is strong enough to land an Emmy for a bigger cast member playing a much popular character. They might have enough votes to land the win despite vote-splitting.

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    I think it would absolutely mean something. First, the show has enough support from the actors to win for someone who isn’t Dinklage, which bodes well for other cast members at the main telecast. Second, if a relatively unknown actress like Van Houten who isn’t even playing a fan favourite character can win over big names like Lange, Jones and Rashad then maybe Game of Thrones is strong enough to land an Emmy for a bigger cast member playing a much popular character. They might have enough votes to land the win despite vote-splitting.

    You’re right. I am just being careful after last year was so damn weird. I might just end up going back to Headey in supporting in the end, because she’s had the most sustained support from voters.

    That said, I don’t think a van Houten loss would mean that much either. I could easily see a supp actress or maybe Clarke winning even if she lost. I am very excited for tonight; hoping for a bunch of surprises.

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    Gwendoline Christie has done too much campaning and has such a better narrative that she will definitely steal votes from Lena Headey, regardless of Van Houten winning.

     

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    I think Garner is the safest best to win, however I don’t think vote splitting will necessarily harm the GOT ladies because although there’s four of them, only three are threats to win. So in my mind if GOT gets 2/3 of the vote split amongst three of them (because it’ll be close), that’s still better than the 1/3 the other two will get because Turner is undoubtedly getting the least votes.
    I don’t get the Shaw hate on GD at all but I don’t see how she could win either.

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    Campaign ≠ win. I’m not saying that as a Headey stan. Voters live in their own world and internet bubble doesn’t indicate anything. Christie could win because she probably has the most industry support among herself and her co-stars, but I pray voters are also aware of their past crimes.

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    I hope Headey wins. For all her body of work in GOT.
    Shitty writing of S8 gave her character pretty nothing to work with, apart from standing near the window and randomly fucking Euron that one time…for, eh, reasons, and getting then killed by falling bricks. But Lena still was able to act many of her moments in S8.
    If an actor is still able to deliver some good acting, despite the writing being that bad, the actor deservs the Emmy.

    Campaign ≠ win. I’m not saying that as a Headey stan. Voters live in their own world and internet bubble doesn’t indicate anything. Christie could win because she probably has the most industry support among herself and her co-stars, but I pray voters are also aware of their past crimes.

    Headey didn’t campaign?

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    If Lena failed to win last year, I can’t see how she will win now. She was the only one from GoT in her category last year, had big season, 3 THT actress to split votes and still no win.

    I just feel she doesn’t have large support from industry

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