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    Headey was a non-factor this year. It was Garner vs Williams. I overestimated GoT’s popularity and thought Williams would overcome vote-splitting but I was wrong.

    Yeah, I know it would have pissed people off, but considering that she simply did NOT have the material this season, HBO should not have submitted Headey, nor should they have submitted Turner–who (a) didn’t have the material, and (b) was never going to win. That way, Williams would have been their (they thought) only nominee and they would have had a sure chance of at least two acting wins (alongside Dinklage). Sure, Christie still would have been self-nominated herself, but with only her taking votes from Williams, she almost certainly would have eked out the win.

    *sigh* It just would have been really nice to have SOMEONE other than Dinklage get an acting win from the show considering the incredible talent on that show, and I do honestly believe–although, yeah, I’m biased–that this year, Maisie Williams could have had the best chance.

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    Yeah, I know it would have pissed people off, but considering that she simply did NOT have the material this season, HBO should not have submitted Headey, nor should they have submitted Turner–who (a) didn’t have the material, and (b) was never going to win. That way, Williams would have been their (they thought) only nominee and they would have had a sure chance of at least two acting wins (alongside Dinklage). Sure, Christie still would have been self-nominated herself, but with only her taking votes from Williams, she almost certainly would have eked out the win. *sigh* It just would have been really nice to have SOMEONE other than Dinklage get an acting win from the show considering the incredible talent on that show, and I do honestly believe–although, yeah, I’m biased–that this year, Maisie Williams could have had the best chance.

    Even if HBO didn’t submit Headey and Turner, it’s very likely they would’ve just submitted themselves like Christie did. Maybe Headey wouldn’t, but I’m certain Turner would’ve. And even if they didn’t, and only Christie did, she still would’ve taken away enough votes from Williams to stop her from winning. Christie had the better received performance, and her self submission narrative clearly caught on with a lot of people. I think she and Headey (overdue narrative) were closer to the win than Maisie, who had more screen time, but also some very weak material this year. I always thought Williams was being overestimated ever since The Long Night. People claimed she was a lock then and there, despite the fact that it wasn’t really a particularly big showcase for her, and we had already seen other cast members losing for more acclaimed performances in bigger showcases like Dinklage in The Laws of Gods and Men, Harington in Battle of the Bastards, and Headey in both Mother’s Mercy and The Winds of Winter.

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    Even if HBO didn’t submit Headey and Turner, it’s very likely they would’ve just submitted themselves like Christie did. Maybe Headey wouldn’t, but I’m certain Turner would’ve. And even if they didn’t, and only Christie did, she still would’ve taken away enough votes from Williams to stop her from winning. Christie had the better received performance, and her self submission narrative clearly caught on with a lot of people. I think she and Headey (overdue narrative) were closer to the win than Maisie, who had more screen time, but also some very weak material this year. I always thought Williams was being overestimated ever since The Long Night. People claimed she was a lock then and there, despite the fact that it wasn’t really a particularly big showcase for her, and we had already seen other cast members losing for more acclaimed performances in bigger showcases like Dinklage in The Laws of Gods and Men, Harington in Battle of the Bastards, and Headey in both Mother’s Mercy and The Winds of Winter.

    Nah, I don’t think that Turner would have, Headey neither. Both would have known they didn’t have a chance and knowing that Williams had a much stronger chance without submitting, they wouldn’t have. All three actresses are extremely close and in a case where they know there is barely any shot and self-submissions is a rare thing, yeah, I think the odds are more likely they don’t.

    And, while you may not think TLN was a strong showcase for her, based on reviews, and commentary from twitter, social media in general, fans, etc., yeah, the majority seemed to think it was a pretty freaking huge showcase for her and NOT just because she killed the Night King.

    Eh, doesn’t matter now anyway, though. :shrugs:

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    Nah, I don’t think that Turner would have, Headey neither. Both would have known they didn’t have a chance and knowing that Williams had a much stronger chance without submitting, they wouldn’t have. All three actresses are extremely close and in a case where they know there is barely any shot and self-submissions is a rare thing, yeah, I think the odds are more likely they don’t. And, while you may not think TLN was a strong showcase for her, based on reviews, and commentary from twitter, social media in general, fans, etc., yeah, the majority seemed to think it was a pretty freaking huge showcase for her and NOT just because she killed the Night King. Eh, doesn’t matter now anyway, though. :shrugs:

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    If she didn’t kill the Night King (a scene that is only a few seconds long), then people wouldn’t have been talking about her anywhere near as much.

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    Nah, I don’t think that Turner would have, Headey neither. Both would have known they didn’t have a chance and knowing that Williams had a much stronger chance without submitting, they wouldn’t have. All three actresses are extremely close and in a case where they know there is barely any shot and self-submissions is a rare thing, yeah, I think the odds are more likely they don’t.

    Why would Headey have known she didn’t have a chance? Quite a few people here and in the media thought she did, it wasn’t a foregone conclusion that she wasn’t in contention for a legacy win (which does happen). I never thought it the most likely outcome, per se, but there’s no reason she (or HBO) would have discounted her chances.

    Turner was submitted in prior seasons, and evidently liked Sansa’s material in the final year. She’d have submitted herself, I’d bet, even if not necessarily in the expectation of getting nominated.

    Also, as far as image goes, HBO was never going to admit that two of the show’s four most important female characters were so marginal to the final season that they didn’t warrant being submitted for the Emmys.

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