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  • Kellyemm
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    Outside of Dance, I really enjoy Maisie with Rory McCann as the Hound and my favourite performance ever of hers was the episode she left him for dead (The Children) – the pre fight chat between the four of them on the hill plays beautifully and she’s absolutely mesmerising in the scenes where he lies dying afterwards (and then makes her way off in to the sunlight). She’s great in her scenes with him this season as well – I only wish there’d been more. I also really like her with Sophie and Kit.

    I can see why Williams chose episode 3, but I think she could very nearly have submitted episode 5. I think she’s hard to miss in 5 and viewers of the show will remember that, though. If they were going to have to share them between supporting she was never going to get 5 because of Lena.

     

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    Riley
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    I skip any post that goes into detail about Maisie Williams.

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    Kellyemm
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    I can always tell she’s not as experienced as the other actors and actresses. Same goes for Sophie.

    The thing is, there’s nothing wrong with that. Williams won the Saturn Award the other night for Best Young Actor and that’s great. I’m all for there actually being separate awards because look at something like the Emmys – no one under 25 has won a Best Supporting Actress Emmy for like 40 years. We’re looking quite seriously at Fiona on many levels as a good candidate to win because of her age fitting the profile – in her 60s!

     

     

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    Kellyemm
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    I don’t think The Long Night is as good of a tape as some people make it out to be. Williams isn’t really a consistent presence throughout the episode. Sure she pops up repeatedly, but the episode goes through so many different points of view so frequently that most of the actors’ performances didn’t make much of an impact on me (the only two who’s work really stuck with me were Alfie Allen and Carice van Houten) even though they all did good work. I’d say this is a definite flaw with The Long Night. Other battle episodes felt like more cohesive narratives since they didn’t have so many different people who had to share the spotlight equally.

    Agreed.  I remember listening to either Coster Waldau or Christie (maybe both) talking post that episode saying that they’d both done all 55 nights on that shoot and going “whatttttt”? On respective watch they have more scenes than I’d first seen, but they’re so scattered bulletgun style throughout that episode is a complete write off of as a submission for both of them.

    Good technical episode on many perspectives outside of lighting, though.

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    Deleted my over dramatic in my feelings post bc I just realized what happened lol.

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    On respective watch they have more scenes than I’d first seen, but they’re so scattered bulletgun style throughout that episode is a complete write off of as a submission for both of them.

    If only the editors had nominated better alternatives, like Bodyguard.

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    Guys, the funniest thing is that I don’t even think Maisie Williams has overanalyzed herself so much as you’ve done in this threat. Frankly, this category will just go to the “safest” nominee. No GOT Lady will emerge victorious probably.

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    Kellyemm
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    I’m not unaware of the sublime ridiculousness, hence the name of the thread. I’m pretty sure voters are just downing wine and ticking off Fiona Shaw rather than bothering their heads hyperanalysing GoT genocide sequences and battles in the dark.

    If only the editors had nominated better alternatives, like Bodyguard.

    always with the hard truths Riley 😍🤪😩

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    The best episode for Maisie Williams to submit would have been “The Bells,” however each nominee from GOT couldn’t submit the same episode therefore when Lena Headey submitted that one, Williams couldn’t do so. However, she had two strong episodes to choose from, and so “The Long Night” it was. (And voters will still see her brilliant work in TB due to Headey’s submission.)

    As for those who don’t think she deserved the nomination this season or didn’t hold up to the older actors, well, I mightily disagree. Outside of Headey and Dinklage, I think that Maisie Williams was consistently the best actor on the show who played brilliantly off of every scene partner. And considering that she was the *only* cast member who spent a good portion of the show playing against non-regular cast members or guest performers who were only in a handful of episodes, yet still maintained the character’s popularity and received critical acclaim–even with some so-so writing now and then–I think that says a lot about her talent and charisma.

    :shrugs: But to each their own.

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    considering that she was the *only* cast member who spent a good portion of the show playing against non-regular cast members or guest performers who were only in a handful of episodes

    I’d not considered that, and it’s true, and a credit to her,  but this season she had people to play off everywhere and individual moments to shine, so that only stands up to other seasons. i don’t for a minute think Maisie is unworthy of a nomination at all. She’s a worthy nominee.

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    Kellyemm
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    Bumping this up given Williams won the GD award in a close top to bottom race that didn’t include Turner – as Luca has pointed out, take with a grain of salt. Might be nice if people don’t want to derail the other GD awards chat with talk of the Drama SA againnnn

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    I don’t mind Shaw winning. I will look at it as if she is being rewarded for her career. She has been in this industry for too long, and has been long overdue

     

    Also split is inevitable.

    Maisie – Largest presence and a fan favourite character

    Lena – Long overdue narrative

    Gwendoline – One GoT Actress in this category that actually deserves a win on basis of the submission and season work.

    Voters won’t be able to choose one.

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    I will look at it as if she is being rewarded for her career. She has been in this industry for too long, and has been long overdue

    She hasn’t been a prominent figure in American industry, mostly in the UK. Even tho I’m predicting her, I don’t think she’s winning. The double noms argument might not be enough, given that both her noms are for shows that are extremely popular with the Academy. I actually am leaning towards Maisie Williams lol. Not because she won the GoldDerby award, but because I’m getting Cynthia Nixon (Williams)/Kim Cattrall (Headey) vibes and the GoT actresses are 4/6 in this category, they could easily dominate the popular vote, like it happened with Nixon (Ik it was tape system back then tho). Unlike THT actresses last year, they were 3/7, so one of the rest 4 actresses (MBB was irrelevant tho) could have won because they were actually strong contenders with strong performances, while I wouldn’t say the same for Shaw who I doubt would generate such passion for herself to win this category. Garner objectively seems like a more plausible winner, but still the age kinda stops me there, the fact that Ozark aired a year ago and S3 didn’t come back in time to affect voting, also I would argue that Ozark is not that well liked by the Academy and all its nods are probably ending up being filler. If Garner had been nominated last year, RIGHTFULLY, over MBB and/or Alexis Bledel, she’d win in a cakewalk this year tho.

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    I don’t mind Shaw winning. I will look at it as if she is being rewarded for her career. She has been in this industry for too long, and has been long overdue Also split is inevitable. Also split is inevitable.

    Maisie – Largest presence and a fan favourite character

    Lena – Long overdue narrative

    Gwendoline – One GoT Actress in this category that actually deserves a win on basis of the submission and season work.

    Voters won’t be able to choose one.

    This applies to Maisie as well. Very, very much so. This season showed a full character arc, she had two incredibly strong episodes which showcased her acting (“The Long Night” and “The Bells” — one of which she submitted, and the other which was submitted by Headey also in this category). Maisie has also been nominated before.

    And as you said, has the screentime, is a fan favorite. Oh, and also? Being as young as she is were she to win, she’d potentially be the youngest actor to win in 20 years. Book-ending that asterisk alongside Dinklage’s 4th record-breaking win (as they’re both from the same show) is the kind of stuff the Academy LOVES!

    So Maisie Williams has A LOT going for her.

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    I think Christie has been overhyped a bit these past month or two, both by the media and users here. Yes, she was good this past season, but there still are better performances and as Joyce mentioned in the slugfest, I don’t know why her self submitting is being made such a big deal when it’s nothing new to the Emmys. I mean I’m happy she got nominated but why has this been turned into a narrative to award her?

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