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    I’ve been following the Emmys for a few years now, but I have a few questions about the blue ribbon panel used during the mid 2000’s. First why was this method implemented, and for how long did it last? Second, what were the episodes submitted for consideration? Lastly, what was it about this voting system that lead shows like Lost and Desperate Housewives being dropped from the Emmys after performing well the year before. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.

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    First why was this method implemented, and for how long did it last?

    It levels the playing field by giving the work of all nominees in a given category equal visibility.  2014 was the last year of panels.

    Second, what were the episodes submitted for consideration?

    https://www.goldderby.com/forum/emmy-episode-entries-previous-years/emmy-awards-episode-submissions-previous-years/

    Lastly, what was it about this voting system that lead shows like Lost and Desperate Housewives being dropped from the Emmys after performing well the year before.

    In the later years of the panel system when episode submissions did not play a part in nominations (2009 on), wins would mask dwindling overall support because even if you just barely got a nomination through the popular vote, you could win with the right episode submission.  Leveling the playing field was after all the premise of the panel system.  But in earlier years like when Lost and Desperate Housewives were snubbed, it had to do with the kinds of episodes that played well with panels.  Because the submissions would be watched in isolation, a random episode of a serialized show could be quite confusing to someone unfamiliar with the show.  Also, because panelists would be comparing so few episodes, it was easy for them to really analyze the submissions and things became more quantitative than qualitative, i.e. the submission that checked the most boxes would win.  Dramedies had an uphill battle in the comedy categories because they were less overtly funny than sitcom episodes and also not really designed to be viewed in isolation.

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    I’ve been following the Emmys for a few years now, but I have a few questions about the blue ribbon panel used during the mid 2000’s. First why was this method implemented, and for how long did it last? Second, what were the episodes submitted for consideration? Lastly, what was it about this voting system that lead shows like Lost and Desperate Housewives being dropped from the Emmys after performing well the year before. Any insight will be greatly appreciated.

    You should read Tom’s (head of Gold Derby) book on the Emmys. The panels go back a long time. They used to actually have to go to a hotel and sit there and be shown all five nominees in a category and then vote. (Fine if you are voting for a comedy series but it was hard to find voters who wanted to sit thru hours of a mini-series back to back.) Then it evolved to screeners being sent out of a particular category a voter was placed in and now the open format.

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    2006 was the year in which the panels would watch the top 10 vote getters in the Comedy and Drama Series. The episodes submitted by Desperate Housewives and Lost did not play well and led to their snub in Comedy and Drama series.

    If I recall, I believe that the top 10 also applied to the Lead Actress and Actor categories. This resulted in the snub of Marcia Cross, Terri Hatcher and Felicity Huffman in lead actress in a Comedy because their episodes did not play well. The nominees were determined based on a mix of popular vote and the ranking from the panels.

    Also, if I recall – the top 10 was applied to the supporting categories in 2007.

    I believe that 2008 was the last

    I think they did away with the popular vote and panel ranking to determine the nominees.

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    Thank you everyone for the information! This has really helped me in understanding this time period of the Emmys.

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    2006 was the year in which the panels would watch the top 10 vote getters in the Comedy and Drama Series.

    2006 was actually a one-time special in which voters watched the top fifteen.

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    The panels were how I first found Goldderby! I was looking for info on the top tens. I really miss how fun this system was.

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    One last question, does anyone know who made up the top ten lists during the years they were used, and what episodes were submitted?

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    I suppose that it would be nice to have a master list, but that will take some work. Do you have a specific category for a specific year in mind in the meantime? The Envelope, BuddyTV, Google and the Internet Archive are your friends otherwise.

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    2006 was actually a one-time special in which voters watched the top fifteen.

    I recall the top 15 coming into play in 2007 or 2008. I remember hearing feedback that there was about grumbling Will & Grace being the 10th and final nominee for Comedy Series.

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    One last question, does anyone know who made up the top ten lists during the years they were used, and what episodes were submitted?

    I used to have them saved as a favorite. In 2006, Will & Grace submitted the series finale which rightfully caused it to miss out on Comedy Series. A terrible choice. I can’t remember if Desperate Housewives submitted Next for Comedy Series. This was also Marcia Cross’ submission.

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    I recall the top 15 coming into play in 2007 or 2008.

    It was just ten in 2007 and 2008 as a response to the poor response to the 2006 nominations. The nominations in 2007 and 2008 gave equal weighting to the popular vote that yielded the top ten and the results of the panel that screened them. 2006 saw a popular vote decide the top fifteen, then the panel decide the nominations entirely after that. The academy publicly released the series top tens in 2008.

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