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June 21, 2021 at 2:10 pm #1204311721
This is coming from someone who didn’t understand the hate S3 got. I really do love this show, and I think it will always have a certain degree of quality and top notch acting, I guess it’s just losing its appeal for me which is why I was shocked to see such strong support here.June 21, 2021 at 2:13 pm #1204311726
Does it have strong support here? I feel like there’s a group of us that loves it, but otherwise? These forums hate THT.June 21, 2021 at 2:14 pm #1204311737
As for the opening episodes being my favorites, I think there’s more showy acting later in the season, it’s just that the plot points are getting to be a bit too far fetched. I can’t deny Moss’s strength in “Home” and “Testimony” or Dowd’s in “Progress,” I just find the writing to be holding me back from fully appreciating their work. I think the first three episodes retained enough similarity as far as believability to the previous seasons while the latter ones just seemed a bit too far fetched even for such a hyperbolic, dramatic show as THT, which is why I prefer the earlier ones.June 21, 2021 at 2:28 pm #1204311754
I don’t want this to turn into a THT-specific thread, but that perspective is incredibly fascinating. I guess it depends on what qualities of the show you like most? I think the majority prefers the second half over the first for a very particular reason; then there are people like you, who prefer what they were going for before episode 4; and then there are people like me, who are obsessed with everything they do.June 21, 2021 at 2:33 pm #1204311760
I agree that this was the weakest season of the show. They did rush some things up which I appreciate, however the writing itself is not any close as sharp as it once was.
It's about the chaotic editing in Moulin Rouge!June 21, 2021 at 2:51 pm #1204311798
If Mckenna Grace gets snubbed we riot.
FYC: All things The Crown, Hacks and I May Destroy You (and Hannah Waddingham and Julianne Nicholson whilst you're at it)!!June 21, 2021 at 3:32 pm #1204311846
Are we gonna recreate the end of episode 1 then?
I know this will sound reactive but I really hope voters are watching this season at least for the sake of Grace getting nominated. I feel confident Moss can get back in without voters having seen this season but I fear for Grace’s chances. Especially with how they rejected Tomei when they definitely were watching the show.
FYC: All things The Crown, Hacks and I May Destroy You (and Hannah Waddingham and Julianne Nicholson whilst you're at it)!!June 21, 2021 at 3:47 pm #1204311864
Season 4 of The Handmaid’s Tale was definitely better than Season 3. I do think think Season 3 had beter episodes (‘Unknown Caller’, ‘Liars’, ‘Mayday’) but it also had some of the worst ones in the entire show (‘Under His Eye’ and ‘Heroic’). That last one was truly one of the worst pieces of television I’ve ever seen. Season 4 had more consistency and was straight to the point, which was something that was lacking in the show.June 21, 2021 at 3:51 pm #1204311867
For me, season 4 just nailed the character arcs and the characterizations. Each and every character was fleshed out so beautifully, specially June, who ends up in what is IMO a very fascinating place in the finale. I love morally ambiguous, multilayered, complex characters, which is exactly what this show gives us.June 21, 2021 at 4:22 pm #1204311898
I really loved this season, especially the final episodes, I didn’t really like The Crossing. But I loved how this show shows tough decisions and doesn’t build heroes and villains. That’s what I love about the show. And this season was June, a brilliant character study, I personally think it’s still one of the best shows on TV. For me, it only had problems with the plot of Serena and Fred, besides, I loved everything.June 21, 2021 at 6:45 pm #1204312001
A few thoughts:
After the Emmys snubbed Tom Pelphrey’s genius work on “Ozark,” it’s hard to have faith that anyone and anything of quality is a sure thing.
Jean Smart is brilliant on “Hacks,” and I hope she wins the Emmy, but I also hope Hannah Einbinder is not overlooked and gets nominated. She more than holds her own and has such a distinctive and cool flair.
Finally, it’s pretty confusing to read some comments that praise the actors (rightfully so) on “Handmaid’s Tale” yet in the next sentence slam the writing. Do they think the actors just make the stories and dialogue up on their own? That great actors are just elevating lousy material? If that were the case, there would be a lot more awesome shows on TV.June 21, 2021 at 8:14 pm #1204312064
Finally, it’s pretty confusing to read some comments that praise the actors (rightfully so) on “Handmaid’s Tale” yet in the next sentence slam the writing. Do they think the actors just make the stories and dialogue up on their own? That great actors are just elevating lousy material? If that were the case, there would be a lot more awesome shows on TV.
huh? yes, great actors elevating lousy material is exactly whats going on. It’s a pretty common trend.
Are you trying to say that a great performance requires great writing so the characterization is thorough on the page and the screen? That’s interesting and I see what you’re saying. I think actors can do their best to make emotions feel real but it can still just come off as unbelievable do the writing, yet in those instances its kind of easy to see who to fault. For example, in the Anderson/Moss Actors on Actors I saw that clip of Moss as June screaming at Serena Joy (I stopped watching the show after season 2 because if somethings gonna be that miserable it better be great). Was Moss believable? Of course. Did I still roll my eyes because I think I saw some version of this in the back of a car in season 1 and this show apparently can’t help itself but write itself into circles for trauma-porn emmy tapes? Also yes, but I’m aware that that isn’t Moss’s fault (stans don’t come for me I truly could not care less).
I still find myself rooting for actors (Corrin in this category, yet my favorite is Jordan Kristine Seamon) who are backed by great writing, so perhaps you’re right. I can’t remember ever rooting for an acting performance that I thought was elevated inconsistent writing, they’re usually both top-level to be my favorite. But anyways, the point is you can still definitely admire a performance while always wishing the material was better.June 21, 2021 at 8:16 pm #1204312067
If Mandy Moore gets into 6, I think her submission should be season5 finale (The Adirondacks), What an acting showcase when she confronts Sterling K brown. It deserves an acknowledgement.June 21, 2021 at 9:28 pm #1204312126
First of all, June screams at Serena Joy under entirely different dramatic circumstances and at very different points in their character arcs. So to me, it’s not repetitious poor writing, but carefully conceived, thoughtful, and impactful storytelling. But you’re entitled to your opinion, of course. It’s all subjective.
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