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    I actually don’t think it would’ve won, even if had one or two nominations there. “The Long Night” was quite divisive and Sapochnik response to the criticism of the dark cinematography and plot decisions, did not suit well with either audiences or the media.

    So they rewarded the episode that is drenched in blue color instead.😂

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    The overperformance you are looking for came in nominations majorly. There were still strong enough options to challenge it above the line for wins. It did go back to winning key tech categories like casting and editing tho.

    I think it clearly weakened between the nominations phase and the wins phase. And its dominance in the nominations largely seems to instead stem from the Academy not actually caring about most of the competition. Succession wasn’t watched by the actors yet (which is also why it missed at SAG for Season 2), Ozark couldn’t get anyone outside of its main 3 cast members nominated even when it was seen as a top contender a year later, Pose doesn’t seem like it’s seen as more than a Billy Porter vehicle with a few techs thrown in, Bodyguard and Homecoming almost completely flopped, and no one but the writers really cares about Better Call Saul. The non-Game of Thrones shows in 2019 were so weak that hanging episodes from The Handmaid’s Tale outperformed them. If Game of Thrones Season 8 was up against the kind of competition that was there the year before or the year later, I don’t see much of a reason to think it would win.

    Would’ve won directing without triple noms as well most likely.

    Maybe, but I don’t think it would have beaten an actually strong contender in directing. It still lost the DGA even without vote-splitting coming into play.

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    Why are we even talking about GOT? It was always gonna win in 2019. Period.

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    Why are we even talking about GOT? It was always gonna win in 2019. Period.

    It was up against arguably the weakest drama field in the history of the Emmys and it still barely performed better than Season 7 did in a much stronger field. I won’t dispute that it was always going to win in 2019, especially after all of its competition skipped the season to avoid competing with it, but it would not have beaten stronger competition.

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    Game of Thrones would never lose, it was a phenomenal not seem in television since decades and it’s achievements worldwide were something HUGE.
    Could it be a season with a red MC Score and the Academy would still reward them just because of what the show was and represented for television.

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    but it would not have beaten stronger competition.

    It literally would have though.. how are you not seeing that?

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    Game of Thrones would never lose, it was a phenomenal not seem in television since decades and it’s achievements worldwide were something HUGE. Could it be a season with a red MC Score and the Academy would still reward them just because of what the show was and represented for television.

    Then why did it barely perform better than Season 7 did against much stronger competition? It was a widely-criticized season with nothing but bad buzz going for it. Are you seriously arguing that it would have beaten any of the other drama series winners we’ve had in recent years at the Emmys? Succession was a massive critical hit that was beloved by everyone and managed to get just 1 fewer acting nomination than Game of Thrones despite the much higher competition (and unlike Game of Thrones, it actually was able to win 5 above-the-line awards instead of just 2). THT Season 1 was an unbeatable season that completely captured the zeitgeist at the time. Breaking Bad’s last two seasons were a phenomenon that could probably have beaten Game of Thrones in any year (and in fact did beat the two best-received seasons of Game of Thrones without much difficulty at all). And Homeland beat arguably the strongest drama field ever (at the very least the strongest of the decade). If Game of Thrones had been up against actual competition, it would have lost, and the only reason it didn’t was because its competition was Killing Eve, Ozark, and Succession, none of which were even operating at their peak.

    The idea that the Emmys would care about giving Game of Thrones the top prize just because it was highly-watched is a position I just don’t understand. Not only did that not translate to the other categories and not only did it lose at the winter awards against stronger competition, but more widely-watched shows lose at the Emmys all the time (Stranger Things lost to The Handmaid’s Tale, The Big Bang Theory never won Comedy, Desperate Housewives arguably wasn’t even top 2 in its breakout year, Downton Abbey lost to Homeland, Empire was snubbed in series, etc.).

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    Are you seriously arguing that it would have beaten any of the other drama series winners we’ve had in recent years at the Emmys?

    Yes, i am.

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    It seems like someone has some residual hatred for the show left and needs to let it out in a thread that is dedicated to the 2021 drama series races. Game of Thrones ended two years ago — why are we talking about it here? Let’s get back on track.

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    It seems like someone has some residual hatred for the show left and needs to let it out in a thread that is dedicated to the 2021 drama series races. Game of Thrones ended two years ago — why are we talking about it here? Let’s get back on track.

    Fair enough. Is there a general Emmy discussion thread? This hardly seems to merit a thread of its own, but none of the existing threads seem to be any more on topic than this one.

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