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    Yes there is and Dern has already played it in S1.

    Lol the dynamic was so different in season 1. She lost all her money in season 2 and found out her husband was unfaithful. Dern played it perfectly, I don’t care.

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    The same people who ridiculed Davis as over the top? Or even Clarke and Moore. My point was people were being dismissive of other performances because of this reason yet have no problem hyping Dern. This hypocrisy is mostly because they weren’t on shows they like or they don’t like the actress. I guess which is proven now.

    Because Renata IS supposed to be over the top, especially in contrast to the others. And that’s why she wasn’t friend to Madeline and Celeste at the beginning of the series. She is supposed to be caricatural.

    However, I don’t believe that’s the case for Viola Davis, considering how her show takes itself seriously. Her performance is basically a parody act to me at this point, and I’m aware it’s not her fault. But it still is. I think the same of Claire Danes in Homeland. Great performances and characters at the beginning, parody acts now.

    You can’t start a season of HTGAWM without knowing Annalise is gonna yell, cry, yell while crying and be drunk at least 10 times.

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    Just came here to say I was actually really impressed with Moore’s clip (I gave up on This is Us after 2 episodes). Good for her.

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    I feel that’s just excuse for Laura. Her performance in S2 was too self aware and over the top. It was’t good. It was done so people can make memes and funny gifs. She knew it and writers knew it.

    And I also think that Emilia doesn’t deserve Emmy. She is better than Wright was in S6, but both KE ladies are much stronger than her.Sandra Oh is in a completely different category. Davis as well.

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    I know you’re joking but there’s such possibility. She has her admirers among Emmy voters…

    Lowkey here for it. Go Mandy!

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    If Sandra doesn’t win (prob due to vote-splitting), then I want to see Mandy win!

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    I also just want to say Mandy’s Gold Derby interview was delightful. She stood out as really lovely, and I am not averse to giving up (there was at least one interview I just went “forget it” with because I got nothing out of the actress, whose actual performance I like). I think I went back and watched hers again a week later.

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    People now believing Mandy Moore is winning best actress…geez, what are the Emmys doing to people?

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    The same people who ridiculed Davis as over the top? Or even Clarke and Moore. My point was people were being dismissive of other performances because of this reason yet have no problem hyping Dern. This hypocrisy is mostly because they weren’t on shows they like or they don’t like the actress.  I guess which is proven now.

    Kudos to all that!!!

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    People now believing Mandy Moore is winning best actress…geez, what are the Emmys doing to people?

    I don’t understand why we are dismissing that possibility tho. This Is Us is a 2 times SAG ensemble winner. Mandy Moore would also get a lot of passion votes because, for many people, she is the best thing about This Is Us, a show that’s clearly loved by actors. It took her time to be nominated but it doesn’t mean she isn’t a threat to win now that she finally is.

    Every year there was an outrage about her missing. I do think we can compare her to Tatiana Maslany in that regard. Yes Tatiana only won for her second nomination, but she was up against undeniable Viola Davis for her first one. When there was no clear frontrunner, she won. And it’s the same thing this year if we consider Sandra Oh, the actual frontrunner, losing because of Jodie.

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    People now believing Mandy Moore is winning best actress…geez, what are the Emmys doing to people?

    Of course she can win, many people were laughing when I was predicting her to get nominated, but I was right and she did and many times this is what matters, because many voters do watch everything and do catch up, this is why Peter Scolari won after being number seventh in the nominating process. Moore has everything to win: the role, the submission, the season, the talent, the three different performances that she does, her show being nominated in Drama, her show being really popular with actors, no other actresses from her show to split the votes with, weaker competition, huge fandom and online support.

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    I don’t understand why we are dismissing that possibility tho. This Is Us is a 2 times SAG ensemble winner. Mandy Moore would also get a lot of passion votes because, for many people, she is the best thing about This Is Us, a show that’s clearly loved by actors. It took her time to be nominated but it doesn’t mean she isn’t a threat to win now that she finally is. Every year there was an outrage about her missing. I do think we can compare her to Tatiana Maslany in that regard. Yes Tatiana only won for her second nomination, but she was up against undeniable Viola Davis for her first one. When there was no clear frontrunner, she won. And it’s the same thing this year if we consider Sandra Oh, the actual frontrunner, losing because of Jodie.

    1. A show that also just lost both guest categories to non-eligible/aired-a-year-ago “The Handmaid’s Tale.”

    2. Yes, the Tatiana comparison is fair, but that first nod is actually important for Maslany because it  told us exactly that there was support for her within the TV academy. And then the voting changed in 2016, so all those people who put her at #1 the year before were able to carry her across the finish line.

    Everyone except for Oh – and I am sorry to say this – is in because last year’s nominees weren’t in contention. I could tell you right now that had Moss, Colman (replacing Foy) and Wood been eligible, three of these nominees wouldn’t be in the lineup. And my guess is that Moore would be one of them (alongside Davis & maybe Wright). I would LOVE for her to win – she was already robbed of that nom last year – but this is between Oh, Linney and Clarke IMO.

    Personally, I love this lead actress lineup because it features such a wide range of performances, but I doubt that any of my favorites (Clarke, Davis, Comer and Moore) are actually winning.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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    1. A show that also just lost both guest categories to non-eligible/aired-a-year-ago “The Handmaid’s Tale.”

    2. Yes, the Tatiana comparison is fair, but that first nod is actually important for Maslany because it  told us exactly that there was support for her within the TV academy. And then the voting changed in 2016, so all those people who put her at #1 the year before were able to carry her across the finish line.

    Everyone except for Oh – and I am sorry to say this – is in because last year’s nominees weren’t in contention. I could tell you right now that had Moss, Colman (replacing Foy) and Wood been eligible, three of these nominees wouldn’t be in the lineup. And my guess is that Moore would be one of them (alongside Davis & maybe Wright). I would LOVE for her to win – she was already robbed of that nom last year – but this is between Oh, Linney and Clarke IMO.

    1. The Handmaid’s Tale just aired, it had an amazing season and great scenes for Jones and Whitford. It is obvious that Handmaid’s is the most popular drama between Academy members after GoT, so the fact that those episodes were so old is completely irrelevant.

    2. The same kind of passion can carry Moore to the win this year regardless of her being a first time nominee.

    3. All this are just theories. No one has seen Colman, no one has seen Wood in season 3 and she was unanimously categorized as way weaker in season 2. Moss would have been nominated, but no one can know instead of whom. What we do know is that Actors love This is us way more than Game of Thrones, Ozark and Killing Eve, so I do not know how you came to the conclusion that Moore is weaker than Clarke, Linney, Comer and Davis. You said it yourself, all five of them were snubbed last year. However, from those shows the actors have awarded the most Moore’s show, she is not the weakest by any means.

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    1. A show that also just lost both guest categories to non-eligible/aired-a-year-ago “The Handmaid’s Tale.”  

    I think that shows THT’s strength more than TIU’s weakness, tbh. For all we know, TIU performers could have been second in those guest categories. And the same argument could be used against Emilia Clarke then, considering Carice lost even we that final season narrative. Luckily for Emilia and Mandy, Moss is not present this year.

    Everyone except for Oh – and I am sorry to say this – is in because last year’s nominees weren’t in contention. I could tell you right now that had Moss, Colman (replacing Foy) and Wood been eligible, three of these nominees wouldn’t be in the lineup. And my guess is that Moore would be one of them (alongside Davis & maybe Wright).

    I 100% agree with this but look at State of the Union. It was originally not nominated in July, and yet it won last weekend. Sometimes the only thing you need to win is to get the nomination.

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    I 100% agree with this but look at State of the Union. It was originally not nominated in July, and yet it won last weekend. Sometimes the only thing you need to win is to get the nomination.

    I can only hope for shockers like a Moore win. That’s my favorite part about awards shows. Glenn Close winning the Globe, Colman winning the Oscar, Newton & Foy prevailing last year – that’s the exciting stuff, even if those winners weren’t always my personal favorites.

    Emmys FYC - "Unbelievable" and "The Handmaid's Tale" in all categories; Viola Davis in Best Drama Actress for the final season of "HTGAWM;" "Ozark:" Drama Series, Laura Linney (Best Actress) and Julia Garner (Best Supporting Actress)

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