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  • Ivo Stoyanov
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    I cannot believe that you really think that such thing as campaigning actually exist for the Emmys… The only Emmy campaign that matters is the one that tries to make voters watch small or new shows BEFORE the nominations.

    AFTER nominations no one really does a campaign. Luca is right, most Emmy winners have never done any kind of campaign.

    Also, do you really think that someone can win because does interviews in talk shows? Please… The Dark Phoenix movie had one of the biggest media campaign in history, they did all the talk shows and all the YoutTube popular programs and got millions of views there, even Jennifer Lawrence did A LOT of campaigning for the movie. It was still a huge and legendary flop. But you think that actors doing 3% of that and mostly to speak about their upcoming movies will make the voters vote for them? This is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever read here.

    Finally, Lena Headey is not our of Hollywood, she is very active on Instagram, she CONSTANTLY interacts with other actors, directors, writers, editors… She constantly comments on other people work, she constantly makes publicity of her films and also of Game of Thrones, she always celebrates PUBLICLY awards nominations for Game of Thrones. She is very active politically and also has a lot interactions (comments and likes) with other actresses about such topics.

    All of you need to go to social medias that actually matter since they have millions of people expressing their opinions there and not the same 30 people that express their opinion here and that constantly creates fake statements that come to be thought as truth such as Mandy Moore having worst season 3 in comparison of season 2, I have never read that ANYWHERE outside this forums, fans adored Moore in season 3 and she herself said that it was much more challenging for her than season 2. I correctly predicted her nomination this year basing my opinion on her incredible work in season 3. Same goes for Thandie Newton and season 2, she remained the absolute fan favorite for both seasons. And Lena Headey is far from favorite for Got fans, Clarke, Williams and Christie are the three most beloved female performers not only for season 8, but also for the entire show, Headey is constantly bullied for her arc in season 8, there are very popular memes criticizing the salary that she received for season 8 claiming how undeserving this money is (there is no other performer that has been attacked for that this season, not even Sophie Turner, an actress that many fans loath), go to any fan page of GoT, even the official one and you will see what people actually think.

    Thatcher, Former Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Darlings, Lena Headey is finally winning and those who don’t see it are blind. I saw it in my dream last night. And she thanked me in her speech, as she should.

     

    I was your Prime Minister once.

    EsOS
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    Ok since I’m done with GOT, I’ll post my thoughts here.

    Season 1-7 were absolutely brilliant. IDK how unpopular this is but season 5-6-7 are my favourites. Season 5-6 were full of plot-twist and had the best forward narrative momentum while Season 7 was full of heartfelt moments and contained some of the best battle sequences of the whole show.

    Season 8 was a messsss. I thought The Bells was the least satisfying TV episode I’ve ever seen until I watched The Iron Throne. I can’t believe how dirty they did Daenerys. Building her as a hero who would make the world a better place for 7 seasons, then have her go crazy and commit a genocide? Jon Snow’s arc also had an extremely bad ending and Bran was a dumb choice for king (should totally have been Sansa).

    Now that my rant is over, I’ll move on towards positive stuff. Every episode was a stunning technical achievement showcasing spectacular set designs and near-perfect cinematography. Everyone of the actor, from those with small cameos to the starring ones, brought their A game throughout the whole series. I think it was actually underrated by the Emmys on this aspect. Michelle Fairley in season 4, Nikolaj Coster-Waldeau in season 3, Charles Dance in season 4 are just some of the biggest performance snubs. It should have totally dominated the guest and supporting categories.

    But let’s talk about someone we don’t talk enough of on this forums: Lena Headey (lol). She was PERFECT as Cersei. From her delivery of small but important lines (“I choose violence”, “No one walks away from me” or “When you play the game of thrones you either win or you die”) to her biggest and more showy showcase (you all know I’m talking about Mother Mercy, The Winds of Winter and Blackwater) she just nailed and elevated every single one of her scenes. I hope voters reward her cause it’ll simply be a crime if she leaves this role Emmy-less. And she has a killer submission this year as well with The Bells, despite being completely wasted in all the other episodes.

     

    That being said I do think Maisie Williams will give her a run for her money because as a character, Arya is definitely the standout. She had the most well-constructed and satisfying growth from all the characters on the show and Maisie did a damn good job playing her. Had Lena been given her due at the Emmys I would probably have been rooting for her this year tbh.

    Also I simply have to take a moment to stan Lady Lyanna Mormont, a feminist icon.

    Now I just need Arya to have her own spin-off with better writers.

    FYC: Octavia Spencer (Luce) - Best Supporting Actress

    Kay
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    Ok since I’m done with GOT, I’ll post my thoughts here. Season 1-7 were absolutely brilliant.

    Greatest show of all time. Agreed?

    EsOS
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    Greatest show of all time. Agreed?

    If you ignore season 8 episode 5 and 6, yes.

    Peter Dinklage is brilliant but it’ll be a crime if he is the only acting winner from this show.

    FYC: Octavia Spencer (Luce) - Best Supporting Actress

    Reis
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    Ok since I’m done with GOT, I’ll post my thoughts here.

    Season 1-7 were absolutely brilliant. IDK how unpopular this is but season 5-6-7 are my favourites. Season 5-6 were full of plot-twist and had the best forward narrative momentum while Season 7 was full of heartfelt moments and contained some of the best battle sequences of the whole show.

    Season 8 was a messsss. I thought The Bells was the least satisfying TV episode I’ve ever seen until I watched The Iron Throne. I can’t believe how dirty they did Daenerys. Building her as a hero who would make the world a better place for 7 seasons, then have her go crazy and commit a genocide? Jon Snow’s arc also had an extremely bad ending and Bran was a dumb choice for king (should totally have been Sansa).

    Now that my rant is over, I’ll move on towards positive stuff. Every episode was a stunning technical achievement showcasing spectacular set designs and near-perfect cinematography. Everyone of the actor, from those with small cameos to the starring ones, brought their A game throughout the whole series. I think it was actually underrated by the Emmys on this aspect. Michelle Fairley in season 4, Nikolaj Coster-Waldeau in season 3, Charles Dance in season 4 are just some of the biggest performance snubs. It should have totally dominated the guest and supporting categories.

    But let’s talk about someone we don’t talk enough of on this forums: Lena Headey (lol). She was PERFECT as Cersei. From her delivery of small but important lines (“I choose violence”, “No one walks away from me” or “When you play the game of thrones you either win or you die”) to her biggest and more showy showcase (you all know I’m talking about Mother Mercy, The Winds of Winter and Blackwater) she just nailed and elevated every single one of her scenes. I hope voters reward her cause it’ll simply be a crime if she leaves this role Emmy-less. And she has a killer submission this year as well with The Bells, despite being completely wasted in all the other episodes.

    That being said I do think Maisie Williams will give her a run for her money because as a character, Arya is definitely the standout. She had the most well-constructed and satisfying growth from all the characters on the show and Maisie did a damn good job playing her. Had Lena been given her due at the Emmys I would probably have been rooting for her this year tbh.

    Also I simply have to take a moment to stan Lady Lyanna Mormont, a feminist icon.

    Now I just need Arya to have her own spin-off with better writers.

    I’m in love with this post, specially the part about Maisie. I want her to win so badly because she was the best part of the final season, but Lena ending this series without a recognition it is totally a crime.

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    Greatest show of all time. Agreed?

    Absofuckinlutley not.

    Rachel
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    Campaign Update as of 8/12. There are quite a few new additions:

    Margaret Qualley – Jimmy Kimmel 7/24 and James Corden 8/1

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus – Jimmy Kimmel 7/31

    Rachel Brosnahan – Jimmy Fallon 7/29, The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel Screening 8/10

    Alex Borstein – The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel Screening 8/10

    Milo Ventimiglia – Jimmy Kimmel 8/2, Seth Meyers 8/5, Live With Kelly and Ryan 8/7, Watch What Happens Live 8/7, TODAY 8/6, PANCAKES WITH THE PEARSONS This Is Us Panel 8/10, Ellen re-run 8/13

    Ron Cephas Jones – Pancakes W/ The Pearsons This Is Us Panel 8/10

    Michael Angarano – Pancakes W/ The Pearsons This Is Us Panel 8/10

    Sterling K. Brown – Pancakes W/ The Pearsons This Is Us Panel 8/10, Goldderby Interview 8/12

    Mandy Moore – Goldderby Interview 8/9

    Michelle Williams – Seth Meyers 8/6, Goldderby interview 8/8

    Betty Gilpin – James Corden 8/7, Watch What Happens Live 8/13

    Jared Harris – Stephen Colbert 8/7, James Corden 8/14

    Phoebe Waller-Bridge – FYC EMMY EVENT 8/6, Jimmy Fallon 8/7, GD Interview 8/12

    Sian Clifford – FYC EMMY Panel 8/6, Goldderby interview 8/9

    Natasha Lyonne – Daily Show with Trevor Noah 8/7, Russian Doll Screening FYC 8/9

    Billy Porter – Pose Screening 8/9

    John Oliver – Seth Meyers 7/29

    Jimmy Kimmel  – Live With Kelly And Ryan 8/13

    Gwendoline Christie – Live With Kelly And Ryan 8/13

    Amy Poehler – Live With Kelly and Ryan 8/14

    Kit Harington – Live With Kelly And Ryan 8/16

    Henry Winkler – GD Interview 8/5, Jimmy Kimmel 8/13, Lights Out With David Spade 8/19

    Bill Hader – Live With Kelly and Ryan 8/22, Dan Patrick Show 8/13, James Corden 8/16, Lights Out with David Spade 8/19

    Bob Odenkirk – Jimmy Kimmel 8/12

    Adam McKay – GD Interview 8/12

    When They See Us FYC PANEL 8/11 – Ava DuVernay, Jharrel Jerome, Niecy Nash, Asante Blackk, Marsha Stephanie Blake, Aunjanue Ellis.

    Niecy Nash – Panel above 8/11, Live With Kelly and Ryan 8/16

    Alfie Allen – James Corden 8/13

    Anthony Anderson – James Corden 8/14

    Michael Douglas – James Corden 8/15

     

     

    Rachel
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    I can’t believe how dirty they did Daenerys. Building her as a hero who would make the world a better place for 7 seasons, then have her go crazy and commit a genocide? 

    As much as I love her, Daenerys will turn into the mad queen in the books as well. It’s extremely foreshadowed in book 5. However, the way they rushed her madness is inexcusable. Here is an EXCELLENT video on the book vs show ending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Ktn-VtdZM

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    Greatest show of all time. Agreed?

    Rachel
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    I cannot believe that you really think that such thing as campaigning actually exist for the Emmys… The only Emmy campaign that matters is the one that tries to make voters watch small or new shows BEFORE the nominations. AFTER nominations no one really does a campaign.

    You obviously haven’t been keeping up with the campaign trail…The winners that didn’t campaign are already known to the academy and are comfortable in their position knowing they don’t have to. It’s dumb to think campaigning doesn’t matter for the lesser-known actors and actresses, plain and simple.

    kellis
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    Peter Dinklage is brilliant but it’ll be a crime if he is the only acting winner from this show.

    Don’t worry, Carice and one of the other girls are coming for the gold.

    “No user starts this shady” - someone culturally relevant.

    EsOS
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    As much as I love her, Daenerys will turn into the mad queen in the books as well. It’s extremely foreshadowed in book 5. However, the way they rushed her madness is inexcusable. Here is an EXCELLENT video on the book vs show ending. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Ktn-VtdZM

    Exactly. They really convinced us she was different and not like her father. Daenerys turning into the mad queen shouldn’t have been a plot twist. It should have been built throughout the entire show. She was  one of the (if not THE) most important character in the show and sacrificing her arc for spectacle is inexcusable.

    FYC: Octavia Spencer (Luce) - Best Supporting Actress

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    I mean, I already explain in detail why I think Lena deserves to win for “The Bells” in this article (https://www.goldderby.com/article/2019/emmy-spotlight-lena-headey-game-of-thrones-cersei-lannister-killed/), but I just want to add that she’s just one of those actresses who can sell a performance without uttering a single word. I mean, the Walk of Shame in the season 5 finale is just a masterclass in acting, as is her coronation scene in “The Winds of Winter.” She was always such a presence that even when she wasn’t onscreen, she was still somehow there.

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    Exactly. They really convinced us she was different and not like her father. Daenerys turning into the mad queen shouldn’t have been a plot twist. It should have been built throughout the entire show. She was one of the (if not THE) most important character in the show and sacrificing her arc for spectacle is inexcusable.

    In their defense, D&D weren’t told about Bran becoming King and Daenerys turning mad until after shooting the 3rd season. George RR Martin told them in a meeting. So they did start using subtle hints of her madness coming out starting in Season 4 when she executes all of the masters’ crucifixion style and then executes one of the slaves for killing a master. She starts confidently believing what she is doing is the only way and is good when people around her are constantly telling her that she has other options. This comes back in Season 8 episode 6 when Daenerys tells Jon, “I know what is good”. However, Bran being taken out of the entirety of Season 5 still pisses me off since they knew where that character was headed at that point in filming.

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