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  • Rachel
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    My office gets the Hollywood Reporter delivered, and HBO took out a full page for the back cover (I would insert a picture if I knew how) touting the 32 nominations for Game of Thrones, a line to consider the show in Drama series, and the entries for the below actors: Lead Actress Emilia Clarke Supporting Actor Peter Dinklage Supporting Actress Lena Headey Supporting Actress Maisie Williams Guest Actress Carice Van Houten In that order. Entries also include a photo, and a quote. No mention of Kit Harrington, Nickolaj Coster Waldau, Sophie Turner, or Gwendoline Christie, or Alfie Allen. Noteworthy that Kit Harrington doesn’t even have anyone else from GoT in his category, but they still don’t even bother to include him, and in supporting actress they didn’t just pick one person like they did in supporting actor. Won’t speculate too much about this, but it seems they’ve decided who they’re going to put their weight behind, and that even they can’t mke up their minds between Williams and Headey.

    I would laugh so hard if Gwendoline Christie won this, you guys. HBO has treated her with absolutely no respect.

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    The only way GOT overcomes vote-splitting in supporting actress is if its popularity and visibility prove too much to be conquered. Because GOT has not triumphed in this category in the past, it would take voters who usually vote elsewhere to choose GOT this year because they have not seen Ozark/KE (I think this much is a possibility, I’m sure GOT has like triple the viewers of these shows combined). These voters, those who are Game of Thrones viewers but maybe not so much huge fans, wouldn’t have a lot of reason to vote for Headey, who was barely featured in the season, has an evil character, and truly doesn’t have a ton of name recognition. Williams, on the other hand, has a fan favorite character, is more of a celebrity, and probably had the best moments of any character this season. Headey is not popular enough for voters to know she hasn’t been rewarded. Williams simply makes more sense.

    Maisie Williams is not a celebrity. She’s barely done any work outside of GoT. If anyone has the “celebrity factor” to their name, it’s Sophie Turner. Maisie Williams couldn’t even get in last year. The voters clearly are leaning more towards Headey.

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    Rachel
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    If Maisie Williams wins, it’s because she was a prominent player in three of the most-watched episodes of Game of Thrones of all time: “The Long Night”, “The Bells”, “The Iron Throne”. Her acting performance will have nothing to do with it. Basically, she’ll win because she killed The Night King. Joke.

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    Maisie Williams is not a celebrity. She’s barely done any work outside of GoT. If anyone has the “celebrity factor” to their name, it’s Sophie Turner. Maisie Williams couldn’t even get in last year. The voters clearly are leaning more towards Headey.

    I mean, I would argue Williams is clearly a celebrity, but perhaps more of a celebrity is more fair to say. Compare her 12 million insta followers to Headey’s 4 million. Not that insta followers= Emmy votes, I’m just saying Williams is more popular, and popularity is how GOT can win this category. This isn’t like other years, because in other years a fair share of voters would vote for an actress from Stranger Things, Westworld, The Handmaid’s Tale, etc. and we honestly wouldn’t even be considering a Headey win with this big a risk of vote-splitting. Like I said before, GOT is riding on the support of people who usually vote elsewhere, and Williams had the season to attract a voter who usually goes with another show, Headey did not.

    EDIT: I also want it clear that I would obviously prefer a Headey win, I just think we need to reconcile that we are in a bit of a bubble in that regard and most Academy voters aren’t thinking “Lena doesn’t have an Emmy so she must win!” because most of them don’t know.

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    While I love her earlier work, I’ll be pissed off if Williams wins the Emmy. Arya felt like such an unbearable prick this season, I could barely enjoy any of her scenes. That’s more on the writing than Williams, but the point stands that I found her work unenjoyable. I’d like a Headey win to make up for her season 5 and 6 snubs, but I understand why some people won’t want to vote for her, as she did nothing this season. She did it well, but nothing is still nothing. If any of Game of Thrones’ supporting actresses deserves a win for their work this year, it’s Gwendolyn Christie. She had some of the season’s stronger material, and she knocked it out the park.

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    I mean, I would argue Williams is clearly a celebrity, but perhaps more of a celebrity is more fair to say. Compare her 12 million insta followers to Headey’s 4 million. Not that insta followers= Emmy votes, I’m just saying Williams is more popular, and popularity is how GOT can win this category. This isn’t like other years, because in other years a fair share of voters would vote for an actress from Stranger Things, Westworld, The Handmaid’s Tale, etc. and we honestly wouldn’t even be considering a Headey win with this big a risk of vote-splitting. Like I said before, GOT is riding on the support of people who usually vote elsewhere, and Williams had the season to attract a voter who usually goes with another show, Headey did not. EDIT: I also want it clear that I would obviously prefer a Headey win, I just think we need to reconcile that we are in a bit of a bubble in that regard and most Academy voters aren’t thinking “Lena doesn’t have an Emmy so she must win!” because most of them don’t know.

    Ugh… if Maisie Williams wins due to a larger Instagram following God help us all.

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    DvirBA
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    I 100% agree with Rachel. Fan sites and the TV academy ard two separate, incomparable universes. Headey is definitely the more respected actor of the two, while Williams plays the fan favorite character

    I completely agree with this (and you all probably know I’m extremely thankful for that fact) however I just can’t seem to get over the fact she lost for seasons 5 and 6… if they didn’t award her there I mean, wtf happened?

    FYC: Lena Headey ("Game of Thrones") for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series, Miguel Sapochnik (“Game of Thrones”) for Outstanding Directing in a Drama Series

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    Tyler
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    The best part of a Maisie win would be Sophie’s reaction

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    I completely agree with this (and you all probably know I’m extremely thankful for that fact) however I just can’t seem to get over the fact she lost for seasons 5 and 6… if they didn’t award her there I mean, wtf happened?

    S6 is easy, vote splitting with Maisie.

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    S6 is easy, vote splitting with Maisie.

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    Emilia Clarke definitely took more votes away from Lena Headey than Maisie Williams that year.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    Of course industry people that vote for the Emmys and fans are not the same, but when you have 4 actresses in one category, it does matter that Williams is the fan favorite, the person with the best story line and with the biggest screen time, she is very good performer, I would support her win, but I agree that would be a little awkward toward Headey.

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    Maise Williams will win because she gave the best performance, had the biggest and more beloved character and because she could build a career that other co-stars won’t be able to build. Heady’s times come and gone.

    FYC: Drama Series: Game of Thrones, Comedy Series: Barry, Limited Series: Chernobyl, Drama Lead Actor: Bob Odenkirk (Better Call Saul), Drama Lead Actress: Emilia Clarke (Game of Thrones), Drama Directing: Miguel Sapochnik for The Long Night (Game of Thrones), Drama Writing: Jed Mercurio for Episode 1 (Bodyguard)

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    Reis
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    The best part of a Maisie win would be Sophie’s reaction

    And Lena’s reaction too. I think she will be super happy if any of her co-stars win.

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    I’m certain that a GOT actress will win. Voters are very emotional about GOT ending (they proved it with the nominations). I really can’t see the majority of them going for either Shaw or Garner.

    GIVE LENA HEADEY HER EMMY

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    Maise Williams will win because she gave the best performance, had the biggest and more beloved character and because she could build a career that other co-stars won’t be able to build. Heady’s times come and gone.

    I actually struggle to see Williams being very successful now that the series is over. Game of Thrones is the only project of much note she’s ever done. I get the feeling that she’ll struggle to escape typecasting. Also, while this is inevitably going to sound mean spirited, I fear that her peculiar look is going to hurt her chances of getting roles. I hope I’m wrong about that, but I can’t help but feel it’s going to happen. And if you completely ignore Game of Thrones, when you compare her current career to the ones of the costars nominated in her category, they’re all clearly more successful. Also I’m pretty certain Emmy voters don’t choose their favorite based on which they believe will have a better career.

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