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  • Kellyemm
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    Does anyone else feel Kit should’ve submitted Episode 1 instead of the finale for his submission? The scene when he learns about his true parentage in the crypts with Sam was probably his strongest scene of the season.

    No. I think that John Bradley outshines him in that scene (and was a great episode for John generally, I think). I prefer him in 6 and think he has more material.

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    Jon is NOT the most important character lol. Him and Daenerys are equal in that regard and it could actually be argued that Daenerys is overall the most important character in that show after everything that happened in the end. Almost everyone’s storyline revolved around her when everything was said and done. The same can’t be said about him.

    While Daenerys and Jon are ultimately the two most important characters on the show, I feel like Jon’s just a bit more important, at least until the last few episodes, where as I said before, he was sidelined. True, Daenerys’ war for the throne ended up having all remaining storylines revolving around her, but the same could be said of Jon’s fight against the White Walkers, which was theorized by most fans to be the series’ endgame. While Dany didn’t get to Westeros until the 7th season, Jon was there throughout the entire series, which gives him more of a connection to the events throughout the plot, several involving his family, thus giving him a personal connection to moments when he wasn’t actually present. Also, the circumstances of Jon’s birth were what shaped the setting into the world we see in the first season. It is worth noting, by the end of the show, it turns out Jon and Daenerys weren’t quite as important as everyone thought they were. Neither of them save the day against the White Walkers or end up ruling Westeros, despite the fact that they were seen as the two main contenders for both of those roles.

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    While Daenerys and Jon are ultimately the two most important characters on the show, I feel like Jon’s just a bit more important, at least until the last few episodes, where as I said before, he was sidelined. True, Daenerys’ war for the throne ended up having all remaining storylines revolving around her, but the same could be said of Jon’s fight against the White Walkers, which was theorized by most fans to be the series’ endgame. While Dany didn’t get to Westeros until the 7th season, Jon was there throughout the entire series, which gives him more of a connection to the events throughout the plot, several involving his family, thus giving him a personal connection to moments when he wasn’t actually present. Also, the circumstances of Jon’s birth were what shaped the setting into the world we see in the first season. It is worth noting, by the end of the show, it turns out Jon and Daenerys weren’t quite as important as everyone thought they were. Neither of them save the day against the White Walkers or end up ruling Westeros, despite the fact that they were seen as the two main contenders for both of those roles.

    I disagree. To me and many others Daenerys is very clearly the most important (and iconic) character on GoT. Season 8 showed that beyond a shadow of a doubt. In the end it really didn’t matter though did it? Both her and Jon got massively screwed over by the writing.

    BTW.. when I say they were screwed over by the writing I’m not talking about the endings their characters got (although I hated them) . I’m speaking specifically about HOW the writers arrived at those endings.

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    Although Lena Headey gets the nom every year, I do think networking helps. This is where Christie comes in as Headey’s biggest threat. Social media following doesn’t really matter because the majority of these followers are bandwagon fans. However, if you counted the most Academy members within their followers, Christie and Headey might be up there with Emilia Clarke.

    In my opinion a win benefits no ones career more than Christie’s (probably followed by Garner). Headey, Williams and Turner have significantly more notoriety, Shaw’s a veteran. Garner and Christie seem pretty actively in career building networking mode. Headey’s still out there but Williams and Turner don’t strike me as master networkers.

    ChargerFan
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    I started to post here about the Emmy Drama nominations but I guess I accidentally opened the Game of Thrones thread. Oops!

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    Which is sad because I thought that scene was weak.John Bradley carried that scene and I felt absolutely nothing from Kit. If he wins it really will be a travesty. Now I really need Billy Porter to win.

    i completely forgot about Bradley, but I wonder if he’s kicking himself for not self-submitting. He would’ve walked right in to a nomination.

    thatnerdgreg
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    i completely forgot about Bradley, but I wonder if he’s kicking himself for not self-submitting. He would’ve walked right in to a nomination.

    I think both John Bradley and Rory McCann could’ve gotten in if they self submitted. Especially McCann, as he had one of the only satisfying endings this season.

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    I started to post here about the Emmy Drama nominations but I guess I accidentally opened the Game of Thrones thread. Oops!

    Well, there is really anything to discuss in the drama side?

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    In my opinion a win benefits no ones career more than Christie’s (probably followed by Garner). Headey, Williams and Turner have significantly more notoriety, Shaw’s a veteran. Garner and Christie seem pretty actively in career building networking mode. Headey’s still out there but Williams and Turner don’t strike me as master networkers.

    I mean, what do you expect though? Maisie Williams and Sophie Turner have been spoiled by Hollywood big time. They started so young and GoT was like their first audition for anything ever and they got it. I think even Isaac Hempstead-Wright had a commercial and a movie on his resume when he was cast as Bran. The rest of the cast had to work hard to get into drama schools and to get bit parts. They know how hard they need to work. Turner and Williams have yet to learn what rejection is.

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    I started to post here about the Emmy Drama nominations but I guess I accidentally opened the Game of Thrones thread. Oops!

    Just one more and then I’ll be on my best behavior.

    I disagree. To me and many others Daenerys is very clearly the most important (and iconic) character on GoT. Season 8 showed that beyond a shadow of a doubt. In the end it really didn’t matter though did it? Both her and Jon got massively screwed over by the writing. BTW.. when I say they were screwed over by the writing I’m not talking about the endings their characters got (although I hated them) . I’m speaking specifically about HOW the writers arrived at those endings.

    I agree. While I dislike the endings, under different circumstances, they might’ve worked. It’s very likely that Martin told D&D some key events and where the characters ultimately end up, but didn’t bother explaining how these things happen (it’s very possible he doesn’t know himself). I don’t know how the books are gonna end, but I can see Daenerys, Jon, Arya, Sansa, and Bran (I hate the idea of him ruling Westeros instead of Jon or Dany, but I know Bran gets more focus in the books than he does on the show, so maybe that’ll help make it seem less out of nowhere) having the same endings there. I’m fairly certain things are gonna be different for the Lannisters. Cersei is an awful person in the show, but she’s even worse in the books, so she’s probably not getting a sympathetic ending. In the books, Jaime has already completely gotten over Cersei, so it’s extremely unlikely he would go back to her. While very likable on the show, in the books, Tyrion is a much more amoral and straight up villainous character (especially after he leaves King’s Landing), so it’s very unlikely he’s gonna wind up with a happy ending. Anyway, it’s definitely gonna take more than a few years before Martin finishes the books, so I guess everyone will just have to wait and see.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkEuJB05Gqk

    The clips for Drama Lead Actor have just been dropped. Meh clips overall…

    My ranking:

    1. Billy Porter (And it’s NOT even close!!!…)
    2. Milo Ventimiglia
    3. Bob Odenkirk
    4. Sterling K. Brown
    5. Jason Bateman
    6. Kit Harrington (I don’t think we need to comment on this trainwreck. But i think they should have picked the clip were he has a conversation with Tyrion in prison.)
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    I actually loved those clips. I don’t know how to rank them but Milo, Billy, Sterling and Bob are better than the other two and would all be deserving winners.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkEuJB05Gqk The clips for Drama Lead Actor have just been dropped. Meh clips overall… My ranking:

    1. Billy Porter (And it’s NOT even close!!!…)
    2. Milo Ventimiglia
    3. Bob Odenkirk
    4. Sterling K. Brown
    5. Jason Bateman
    6. Kit Harrington (I don’t think we need to comment on this trainwreck. But i think they should have picked the clip were he has a conversation with Tyrion in prison.)
    1. Billy Porter (BY FAR)
    2. Milo Ventimiglia (great clip, but not his best in that episode)
    3. Bob Odenkirk
    4. Sterling K. Brown

    I won’t bother ranking Bateman and Harington, but Bateman would probably be like No. 50 and Harington No.1000 (I have to laugh)

     

    Emmy voters must bend the knee to Lena Headey & Emilia Clarke for "Game of Thrones." It's their last chance to award them. Make it happen.

    Thatcher, Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Darlings, Billy Porter really outacted!

    LENA HEADEY hasn't got an Emmy for Game of Thrones????? Emmys you need to win her right now!!
    If Lena Headey doesn't win the Emmy, I'm leaving GoldDerby forever.

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    If anyone ever asked you what vote splitting is, show them this picture from the Vanity Fair imaginary ballot

    901-BCB39-5-F4-D-4-D1-C-B39-A-A2-B9950186-C8

     

    Poor Sapochnik

    do the real Emmy ballots also not featuring the name of the episode?

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    FYC: Lena Headey ("Game of Thrones") for Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series, Miguel Sapochnik (“Game of Thrones”) for Outstanding Directing in a Drama Series

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