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  • Ivo Stoyanov
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    It has a higher IMDb rating than Escape at Dannemora with four times the votes, has the exact same metacritic score as EAD as well, and was given the “Golden Tomato” by Rotten Tomatoes as the best reviewed mini-series/anthology of 2018. So yeah, I would consider none of that “mediocre” unless you want to say EAD and Fosse/Verdon are just as mediocre. I get the show is polarizing, and it was for sure 5th in the series line-up, but I feel like those who were insisting it wasn’t going to get a series nomination were projecting their own feelings of distaste for the show.

    Like I already said, I meant mediocre for a TV show since usually TV shows have much higher scores than movies. And please read more carefully before replying, both me and Reis were discussing audiences scores, I am well aware that critics supposedly like it (they showed zero passion after that, it will win zero awards at TCA, something atypical for “the best reviewed mini-series/anthology of 2018”), the audience score of the show on Rotten is 81, again it is low for a TV show.

    However, you are correct about A Very English Scandal, Escape at Dannemora and Fosse/Verdon, but that is because of their low viewership, unfortunately the world is not aware about their existence, F/V and Dannemora don’t even have an audience scores at Rotten… I have yet to see them myself.

    And no, I am not projecting my own feelings of distaste for the show, I am showing a clear and real proof – snubbed at both directing and writing. I am completely sure that if Dannemora, F/V and English Scandal were on HBO they would have been much more popular with both audiences and the Academy, also that if Sharp Objects was on Showtime, FX or Amazon, it would have been completely ignored with the exception of Adams.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    You’re missing the point. The academy did a great job, but every nominee should have to give a deserving performance, not just young people. I was not referring to the academy, but to Ivo’s comment.

    Well, this time you missed the point, Luca. I was talking about the Academy, not about my personal opinion, I agree with you and I also hate age bias, I also agree with you about the fact that age bias is dying, but naturally a young performer have to be incredible to escape age bias and to have consensus, an establish actor will always have it easier to get a nomination even with a normally good performance.

    Scanlen cannot be compared with Jerome, Blackk, King, Criss, Millie Bobby, Garner and Qualley (those two from what I have seen from them in The Americans and The Leftovers, and from what I have read about them in Ozark and F/V), she never had a chance because she does not deserve it, even the Critics Choice snubbed her (they were the only ones that showed some real passion towards the show giving it two awards and even nominating Elizabeth Perkins for her very well acted cameo).

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    mafro987
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    I loved Sharp Objects but even I did think Adams, Clarkson and Perkins were all stronger than Scanlen. I didn’t feel that way about Garner, Jerome etc within their respective casts.

    FYC: Carice van Houten (Game of Thrones), Guest Actress in a Drama Series

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    I meant mediocre for TV show, usually TV shows have much higher scores than movies. I am glad we agree on the rest.

    Ah, that’s true too, but it’s still a good rating.

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    Atypical
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    Scanlen was exceptional and should be winning the supporting actress Emmy outright. Her snub is very egregious and significant.

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    leothescorpio
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    If I were an Emmy voter, I would vote for Asante Blackk in supporting. He deserves as much praises as Jharell Jerome and was better than Michael Kenneth Williams, imo.

    Truth. He was MVP before Jharrel’s showcase in ep. 4. Hoping he could pull a Sterling K. Brown and win over veteran co-stars. But for now still predicting Michael Kenneth Williams.

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    Like I already said, I meant mediocre for a TV show since usually TV shows have much higher scores than movies. And please read more carefully before replying, both me and Reis were discussing audiences scores, I am well aware that critics supposedly like it (they showed zero passion after that, it will win zero awards at TCA, something atypical for “the best reviewed mini-series/anthology of 2018”), the audience score of the show on Rotten is 81, again it is low for a TV show. However, you are correct about A Very English Scandal, Escape at Dannemora and Fosse/Verdon, but that is because of their low viewership, unfortunately the world is not aware about their existence, F/V and Dannemora don’t even have an audience scores at Rotten… I have yet to see them myself. And no, I am not projecting my own feelings of distaste for the show, I am showing a clear and real proof – snubbed at both directing and writing. I am completely sure that if Dannemora, F/V and English Scandal were on HBO they would have been much more popular with both audiences and the Academy, also that if Sharp Objects was on Showtime, FX or Amazon, it would have been completely ignored with the exception of Adams.

    Fair enough.

    Emmy voters must bend the knee to Lena Headey & Emilia Clarke for "Game of Thrones." It's their last chance to award them. Make it happen.

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    ginnala
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    I meant mediocre for TV show, usually TV shows have much higher scores than movies. I am glad we agree on the rest.

    Big Little Lies only has 0.4 more. So it has a mediocre score aswell?

    Just say you don’t like Sharp Objects but don’t pretend it’s an universal thinking. It’s acutally quite popular on social media.

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    Truth. He was MVP before Jharrel’s showcase in ep. 4. Hoping he could pull a Sterling K. Brown and win over veteran co-stars. But for now still predicting Michael Kenneth Williams.

    I know you’re a big When They See Us fan but surely the rationale would be to predict a non-WTSU actor? I can’t see the acting branch being able to fully mobilise for one over the other (Leguizamo isn’t in the conversation) and I doubt either will have enough support in a vote split to overcome all of Skarsgard/Dano/Whishaw. Jerome is the safer bet for a WTSU acting win.

    FYC: Carice van Houten (Game of Thrones), Guest Actress in a Drama Series

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    The Americans, Veep, The Leftovers, The Good Wife, 30 Rock have around the same IMDB rating as Sharp Objects. It’s doing well enough.

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    Honestly, if enough people watched Qualley should be winning for that audition episode.

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    Honey, these users are so basic. […] Still Scanlen should be sweeping awards season for basically acting like a spoiled brat for 8 episodes. I have to laugh at the delusion and lack of taste.

    Or maybe people have different preferences and their own opinions? This site is just getting too intolerable to not want to delete my account.

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    Maybe I took it to the point of insult, but honey don’t act innocent. Whenever someone on here has an unpopular opinion they’re getting trashed to death.

    When they’re insulting other users in the middle of that unpopular opinion to just be rude, then yes they deserve to get trashed.

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    Atypical
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    No, she shouldn’t be. Her Emmy snub is completely understandable. She did fine with her material, but it wasn’t anything extraordinary. Marsha Stephanie Blake & classy Margaret Qualley deserved it way more.

    My opinion stands regardless. Take your racist ass elsewhere.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    The Americans, Veep, The Leftovers, The Good Wife, 30 Rock have around the same IMDB rating as Sharp Objects. It’s doing well enough.

    Disagree, the 8.4 of The Americans is far more difficult to achieve and it’s closer to 8.5 which is closer to 9, we are not speaking about college notes, every fraction is quite important, the example that someone gave with Big Little Lies and its 8.6 is inaccurate, 8.6 is an incredible score and it’s far higher than almost all the movies listed on IMDB.

    The 8.3 of Veep, The Leftovers and The Good Wife (and the 8.2 of 30 Rock) are fine giving the fact that the two comedies are not popular outside US and have far less fans outside The Academy (we discussed that on the thread about all the Comedy Programs winners). The Leftovers have tons of haters and The Good Wife has always been seen as another procedimental show by some people. And even they beat Sharp Objects.

    The funniest thing is that all the defenders of Sharp Objects are incapable of explaining why it was snubbed in both Directing and Writing if it is supposedly well liked, it is obvious that robbed English Scandal in Program due to the HBO power, that’s all that I am saying. And it is also a fact that Scanlen has zero nominations for her performance (even in awards without prestige) for a reason, she does not deserve it.

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