Home Forums Television Emmys Movie/Limited Nominations Reactions

Emmys Movie/Limited Nominations Reactions

CREATE A NEW TOPIC
CREATE A NEW POLL
Viewing 15 posts - 451 through 465 (of 493 total)
Created
2 months ago
Last Reply
2 weeks ago
498
( +7 hidden )
replies
36956
views
91
users
Pulp
36
Andrea
30
sofan
20
  • Thatcher, Prime Minister of GoldDerby
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jan 3rd, 2018
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035225

    Agreed with this 100% White people win for mediocre performances ALL THE TIME, but I never see them getting crucified to the degree that people of colour (The hate for Sandra Oh this year immediately comes to mind) get crucified here by the same users (and we all know who they are, let’s be honest). And the infuriating part is, WTSU is not even mediocre by any yardstick – it’s one of the best shows of the year, brilliantly written, directed, AND acted, has a Metascore of 87, Rotten Tomatoes rating of 97%, and an IMDB rating of 9. But it’s being treated here in this thread by some people like it was Bohemian Rhapsody, and I can’t help but wonder if it got the same treatment, despite its quality and critical acclaim if it wasn’t for its cast and crew being predominantly black. I mean Sandra Oh is arguably the most overdue nominee this year, owing to her work on Grey’s Anatomy. And Lena Headey is also equally overdue owing to her great work on GOT. However, the same users who are advocating for Headey to win DESPITE her barely having anything to do in Season 8 largely because she is so overdue for a win are CRUCIFYING Oh because she will win largely because of being overdue and not necessarily her performance. They are hypocrites and they don’t apply the same standards to POC as they do to their favorite white actresses like Headey.

    Darling, I wouldn’t mind Oh winning. I just think Emilia Clarke was a damn revelation in terms of acting this season and I loved her performance even though Disabled and Drowned’s writing was mediocre. The best performance is probably Viola Davis’ but she’s not winning anyways.

    The thing with Lena Headey is that even though the dumb writers gave her little to do, she outacted the rest of her co-stars in “The Bells”. I see no contradiction or racism, darling. Not in my case and not for most Headey supporters. We’re a nice cult. We will share her dildo with each other after she wins it. You should join us.

    LENA HEADEY hasn't got an Emmy for Game of Thrones????? Emmys you need to win her right now!!
    If Lena Headey doesn't win the Emmy, I'm leaving GoldDerby forever.

    PoweR
    Participant
    Joined:
    Sep 27th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035231

    Agreed with this 100%

    White people win for mediocre performances ALL THE TIME, but I never see them getting crucified to the degree that people of colour (The hate for Sandra Oh this year immediately comes to mind) get crucified here by the same users (and we all know who they are, let’s be honest).

    And the infuriating part is, WTSU is not even mediocre by any yardstick – it’s one of the best shows of the year, brilliantly written, directed, AND acted, has a Metascore of 87, Rotten Tomatoes rating of 97%, and an IMDB rating of 9. But it’s being treated here in this thread by some people like it was Bohemian Rhapsody, and I can’t help but wonder if it got the same treatment, despite its quality and critical acclaim if it wasn’t for its cast and crew being predominantly black.

    I mean Sandra Oh is arguably the most overdue nominee this year, owing to her work on Grey’s Anatomy. And Lena Headey is also equally overdue owing to her great work on GOT. However, the same users who are advocating for Headey to win DESPITE her barely having anything to do in Season 8 largely because she is so overdue for a win are CRUCIFYING Oh because she will win largely because of being overdue and not necessarily her performance. They are hypocrites and they don’t apply the same standards to POC as they do to their favorite white actresses like Headey.

    Yep, sounds about white.

    jez89
    Participant
    Joined:
    Aug 14th, 2018
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035492

    Please. I am on record as having HATED Ozark and Sharp Objects and their casts are white toast. The sight of Meryl Streep makes me want to jump out a window these days. Shows with primarily white talent are trashed and criticized routinely around here. I am also on record advocating for wins for Billy Porter, Jharrel Jerome, Phylicia Rashad, and Angela Bassett this year. Not to mention I stick up for Sandra Oh who gets dissed all the time and would make history with a win. Apparently if you are sad at where Chernobyl seems to be heading Emmy night (goose egged) and point out how emotionally invested some people are in WTSU victory (ya’ll listen to Amanda and Erik yet?) you are racist or something. Pretty pathetic.

    It’s a commonly trotted out argument isn’t it, that if you don’t fawn over a black themed show or performer then you’re racist, it’s pathetic. I believe WTSU has been overrated and that this is primarily because of the injustice of what happened to the men involved. An exceptional story doesn’t mean the miniseries itself is exceptional, and people don’t seem to be able to tell the difference. Chernobyl had both, an intriguing plot and it was miles better production wise than WTSU.

    Seven
    Participant
    Joined:
    Dec 21st, 2016
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035501

    Agreed with this 100% White people win for mediocre performances ALL THE TIME, but I never see them getting crucified to the degree that people of colour (The hate for Sandra Oh this year immediately comes to mind) get crucified here by the same users (and we all know who they are, let’s be honest). And the infuriating part is, WTSU is not even mediocre by any yardstick – it’s one of the best shows of the year, brilliantly written, directed, AND acted, has a Metascore of 87, Rotten Tomatoes rating of 97%, and an IMDB rating of 9. But it’s being treated here in this thread by some people like it was Bohemian Rhapsody, and I can’t help but wonder if it got the same treatment, despite its quality and critical acclaim if it wasn’t for its cast and crew being predominantly black. I mean Sandra Oh is arguably the most overdue nominee this year, owing to her work on Grey’s Anatomy. And Lena Headey is also equally overdue owing to her great work on GOT. However, the same users who are advocating for Headey to win DESPITE her barely having anything to do in Season 8 largely because she is so overdue for a win are CRUCIFYING Oh because she will win largely because of being overdue and not necessarily her performance. They are hypocrites and they don’t apply the same standards to POC as they do to their favorite white actresses like Headey.

    Thank you. Some of these members are absolute garbage

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by  Seven.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 2 days ago by  Seven.
    Justmimusicmon
    Participant
    Joined:
    Oct 1st, 2014
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035582

    I know the answer to this, but I wonder how When They See Us would be received around here if it didn’t have majority black talent behind the scenes.

    smellycat
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 14th, 2019
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035870

    I believe WTSU has been overrated and that this is primarily because of the injustice of what happened to the men involved.

    I have heard a rumour the five men are coming to the ceremony. If that happens, it is tantamount to abuse. Having their story being compared and judged, and probably losing in lots of categories, is just horrific. And how manipulative to trot them out like that. Tell me it ain’t so.

    Kevin
    Participant
    Joined:
    Apr 30th, 2013
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203035976

    I have heard a rumour the five men are coming to the ceremony. If that happens, it is tantamount to abuse. Having their story being compared and judged, and probably losing in lots of categories, is just horrific. And how manipulative to trot them out like that. Tell me it ain’t so.

    I think you’re vastly overstating the importance of the Emmys in their lives. Captain Phillips came to the Oscars and his film won nothing (or next to nothing). Same for Philomena. I think they’re gonna be okay.

    montana82
    Participant
    Joined:
    Sep 14th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203037109

    I was just searching youtube tonight. And the Chernobyl trailer has 23 millions views and 322,000 likes? I’m not gonna bring up WTSU anymore because I don’t want to open up any more can of worms here. 23 million views. 322,000k likes. For a trailer. To a miniseries on HBO. 0 major Emmy wins on Emmy night? Does this make any sense to anyone?

    When the pundits here do the miniseries predictions I am going to need MAJOR league detailed well explained analysis to justify how Chernobyl leaves the main ceremony with nothing.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Andrea.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Andrea.

    "Here's a wonderfully b*tchy post from Montana82...." - Tom O'Neill Emmy Prediction Slugfest August 1st, 2019

    Riley
    Keymaster
    Joined:
    Oct 11th, 2010
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203037162

    Asked and answered.

    PleaseFeedTheTroll
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 3rd, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203037168

    I was just searching youtube tonight. And the Chernobyl trailer has 23 millions views and 322,000 likes? I’m not gonna bring up WTSU anymore because I don’t want to open up any more can of worms here. 23 million views. 322,000k likes. For a trailer. To a miniseries on HBO. 0 major Emmy wins on Emmy night? Does this make any sense to anyone?

    When the pundits here do the miniseries predictions I am going to need MAJOR league detailed well explained analysis to justify how Chernobyl leaves the main ceremony with nothing.

    You guys are bringing up trailer views now? Yes, Chernobyl is probably popular in Yugoslavia or wherever; however, it is not in America. It does not even compare to When They See Us in popularity in America. The Emmys are American, so what is popular in Europe is not pertinent. You bitter betties realize that, and that is why you are having breakdowns about When They See Us. You are aware that Chernobyl has no imprint in America. The entire thing is reminiscent of the time when people thought that The Night Manager might win against The People Versus OJ Simpson because it was big in Europe or wherever. America is not Europe.

    Jasmine
    Participant
    Joined:
    May 31st, 2019
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203037288

    I’ve been lurking in these threads for some times. I think WTSU is going to win the Emmy but mostly because it’s more relevant to Americans and the Emmy is an American show. Which one you think is the best is entirely subjective, of course.

    I personally thought compressing an epic and phenomenal nuclear disaster to a 5-part series but also making it emotionally poignant, gripping and politically relevant  without being manipulative is a tremendous feat, worthy of many awards.

    I have to log in, however, to reply to PleaseFeedTheTroll about both shows’ popularity because it’s just not true that WTSU is more popular in US while Chernobyl is not. I’ve been doing Google trend searches which is a reliable way of gauging popularity since my company also uses this, among other things, to compare our products in the markets. You can check for yourself. I’ve compared two shows in last 90 days in US only. If I change to global area, the disparity between Chernobyl and WTSU is even higher that you can barely see WTSU red line.

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    Chernobyl is a global hit as well as a US hit show. But at the end of the days, the voters are a small group of people who have watched a few hit shows which I’m sure include Chernobyl and WTSU. Popularity does very little here to sway the votes. So whoever is the winner is the one the voters really prefer, not the more popular one, which I’ve no idea what it will be.

    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Jaminia.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Jaminia.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Jaminia.
    • This reply was modified 3 weeks, 1 day ago by  Jaminia.
    Couverture
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jun 16th, 2019
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203037436

    Yes, Chernobyl is probably popular in Yugoslavia or wherever; however, it is not in America. It does not even compare to When They See Us in popularity in America.

    PleaseFeedTheTroll
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 3rd, 2012
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203039553

    I’ve been lurking in these threads for some times. I think WTSU is going to win the Emmy but mostly because it’s more relevant to Americans and the Emmy is an American show. Which one you think is the best is entirely subjective, of course.

    I personally thought compressing an epic and phenomenal nuclear disaster to a 5-part series but also making it emotionally poignant, gripping and politically relevant without being manipulative is a tremendous feat, worthy of many awards.

    I have to log in, however, to reply to PleaseFeedTheTroll about both shows’ popularity because it’s just not true that WTSU is more popular in US while Chernobyl is not. I’ve been doing Google trend searches which is a reliable way of gauging popularity since my company also uses this, among other things, to compare our products in the markets. You can check for yourself. I’ve compared two shows in last 90 days in US only. If I change to global area, the disparity between Chernobyl and WTSU is even higher that you can barely see WTSU red line.

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    Chernobyl is a global hit as well as a US hit show. But at the end of the days, the voters are a small group of people who have watched a few hit shows which I’m sure include Chernobyl and WTSU. Popularity does very little here to sway the votes. So whoever is the winner is the one the voters really prefer, not the more popular one, which I’ve no idea what it will be.

    Chernobyl averages less than a million people per an episode. It is not even within HBO’s top five most watched programs. Chernobyl is popular amongst television critics and writers in America, but it is not an outright hit with mainstream television watchers. It is absolutely not a phenomenon as many of you are trying to suggest. No, popularity is not everything for who wins, nor have I ever suggested that, but many of you have suggested that. Something being popular with your internet bubble does not equate to being popular with everyone else. Bringing up how popular it is in Europe has no importance to an American ceremony. It might be popular with the people who vote. It still is not some popular undeniable hit, though. It is probably similar to The Night Manager, where you have a small passionate base in America who raves about it.

    Jasmine
    Participant
    Joined:
    May 31st, 2019
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203039657

    I just provided you the link in my earlier post to show you how popular Chernobyl is in US, and even compared it with WTSU to see the disparity but you just ignored it. Lol

    So here it is again https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    A million American people watching live per episode is not a bad figure but there were 5 episodes on air, people were only catching up on the series later. So here is more figures to show you the official reports that people did catch up on  the series on every platform later.

    1. It’s the most watched TV mini series since Band of Brothers. https://twitter.com/benttravers/status/1154120863601446912?s=21

    2. Almost uninterrupted US viewership climb from its May 6 debut to its June 3 finale, the drama has emerged with a cumulative audience of 8 million so far and this article was written in early June. Been two months since then, do the math. 

    https://deadline.com/2019/06/chernobyl-record-breaking-digital-viewership-game-of-thrones-true-detective-craig-mezin-hbo-emmys-1202631705/

    Visibility in miniseries, I feel, is less relevant to Academy Voters in my opinion. So it won’t help Chernobyl at all. But I feel you simply got Chernobyl’s popularity way off wrong and won’t admit it.

    If you don’t go by evidences then I just have to give up.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  Jaminia.
    • This reply was modified 2 weeks, 6 days ago by  Jaminia.
    musterd
    Participant
    Joined:
    Jul 11th, 2011
    Topics:
    Posts:
    #1203039754

    I just provided you the link in my earlier post to show you how popular Chernobyl is in US, and even compared it with WTSU to see the disparity but you just ignored it. Lol

    So here it is again https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    A million American people watching live per episode is not a bad figure but there were 5 episodes on air, people were only catching up on the series later. So here is more figures to show you the official reports that people did catch up on the series on every platform later.

    1. It’s the most watched TV mini series since Band of Brothers. https://twitter.com/benttravers/status/1154120863601446912?s=21

    2. Almost uninterrupted US viewership climb from its May 6 debut to its June 3 finale, the drama has emerged with a cumulative audience of 8 million so far and this article was written in early June. Been two months since then, do the math.

    https://deadline.com/2019/06/chernobyl-record-breaking-digital-viewership-game-of-thrones-true-detective-craig-mezin-hbo-emmys-1202631705/

    Visibility in miniseries, I feel, is less relevant to Academy Voters in my opinion. So it won’t help Chernobyl at all. But I feel you simply got Chernobyl’s popularity way off wrong and won’t admit it.

    If you don’t go by evidences then I just have to give up.

    Truly thank you for your service. The previous post straight up cites a source on ratings of continuing series to conclude that the non presence of Chernobyl, a one-off LIMITED series, had poor ratings is pretty pathetic trolling.

    Also logically it would have been viewed widely for it to snag so many nominations across the board even though it was released late into the tv season.

Viewing 15 posts - 451 through 465 (of 493 total)

The topic ‘Emmys Movie/Limited Nominations Reactions’ is closed to new replies.

Similar Topics
The Coo... - Sep 14, 2019
Television
RobertPius - Sep 14, 2019
Television
Chris B... - Sep 14, 2019
Television