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  • Justmimusicmon
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    I know the answer to this, but I wonder how When They See Us would be received around here if it didn’t have majority black talent behind the scenes.

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    I have heard a rumour the five men are coming to the ceremony. If that happens, it is tantamount to abuse. Having their story being compared and judged, and probably losing in lots of categories, is just horrific. And how manipulative to trot them out like that. Tell me it ain’t so.

    I think you’re vastly overstating the importance of the Emmys in their lives. Captain Phillips came to the Oscars and his film won nothing (or next to nothing). Same for Philomena. I think they’re gonna be okay.

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    I was just searching youtube tonight. And the Chernobyl trailer has 23 millions views and 322,000 likes? I’m not gonna bring up WTSU anymore because I don’t want to open up any more can of worms here. 23 million views. 322,000k likes. For a trailer. To a miniseries on HBO. 0 major Emmy wins on Emmy night? Does this make any sense to anyone?

    When the pundits here do the miniseries predictions I am going to need MAJOR league detailed well explained analysis to justify how Chernobyl leaves the main ceremony with nothing.

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    Asked and answered.

    PleaseFeedTheTroll
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    I was just searching youtube tonight. And the Chernobyl trailer has 23 millions views and 322,000 likes? I’m not gonna bring up WTSU anymore because I don’t want to open up any more can of worms here. 23 million views. 322,000k likes. For a trailer. To a miniseries on HBO. 0 major Emmy wins on Emmy night? Does this make any sense to anyone?

    When the pundits here do the miniseries predictions I am going to need MAJOR league detailed well explained analysis to justify how Chernobyl leaves the main ceremony with nothing.

    You guys are bringing up trailer views now? Yes, Chernobyl is probably popular in Yugoslavia or wherever; however, it is not in America. It does not even compare to When They See Us in popularity in America. The Emmys are American, so what is popular in Europe is not pertinent. You bitter betties realize that, and that is why you are having breakdowns about When They See Us. You are aware that Chernobyl has no imprint in America. The entire thing is reminiscent of the time when people thought that The Night Manager might win against The People Versus OJ Simpson because it was big in Europe or wherever. America is not Europe.

    Jasmine
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    I’ve been lurking in these threads for some times. I think WTSU is going to win the Emmy but mostly because it’s more relevant to Americans and the Emmy is an American show. Which one you think is the best is entirely subjective, of course.

    I personally thought compressing an epic and phenomenal nuclear disaster to a 5-part series but also making it emotionally poignant, gripping and politically relevant  without being manipulative is a tremendous feat, worthy of many awards.

    I have to log in, however, to reply to PleaseFeedTheTroll about both shows’ popularity because it’s just not true that WTSU is more popular in US while Chernobyl is not. I’ve been doing Google trend searches which is a reliable way of gauging popularity since my company also uses this, among other things, to compare our products in the markets. You can check for yourself. I’ve compared two shows in last 90 days in US only. If I change to global area, the disparity between Chernobyl and WTSU is even higher that you can barely see WTSU red line.

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    Chernobyl is a global hit as well as a US hit show. But at the end of the days, the voters are a small group of people who have watched a few hit shows which I’m sure include Chernobyl and WTSU. Popularity does very little here to sway the votes. So whoever is the winner is the one the voters really prefer, not the more popular one, which I’ve no idea what it will be.

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    Yes, Chernobyl is probably popular in Yugoslavia or wherever; however, it is not in America. It does not even compare to When They See Us in popularity in America.

    PleaseFeedTheTroll
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    I’ve been lurking in these threads for some times. I think WTSU is going to win the Emmy but mostly because it’s more relevant to Americans and the Emmy is an American show. Which one you think is the best is entirely subjective, of course.

    I personally thought compressing an epic and phenomenal nuclear disaster to a 5-part series but also making it emotionally poignant, gripping and politically relevant without being manipulative is a tremendous feat, worthy of many awards.

    I have to log in, however, to reply to PleaseFeedTheTroll about both shows’ popularity because it’s just not true that WTSU is more popular in US while Chernobyl is not. I’ve been doing Google trend searches which is a reliable way of gauging popularity since my company also uses this, among other things, to compare our products in the markets. You can check for yourself. I’ve compared two shows in last 90 days in US only. If I change to global area, the disparity between Chernobyl and WTSU is even higher that you can barely see WTSU red line.

    https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    Chernobyl is a global hit as well as a US hit show. But at the end of the days, the voters are a small group of people who have watched a few hit shows which I’m sure include Chernobyl and WTSU. Popularity does very little here to sway the votes. So whoever is the winner is the one the voters really prefer, not the more popular one, which I’ve no idea what it will be.

    Chernobyl averages less than a million people per an episode. It is not even within HBO’s top five most watched programs. Chernobyl is popular amongst television critics and writers in America, but it is not an outright hit with mainstream television watchers. It is absolutely not a phenomenon as many of you are trying to suggest. No, popularity is not everything for who wins, nor have I ever suggested that, but many of you have suggested that. Something being popular with your internet bubble does not equate to being popular with everyone else. Bringing up how popular it is in Europe has no importance to an American ceremony. It might be popular with the people who vote. It still is not some popular undeniable hit, though. It is probably similar to The Night Manager, where you have a small passionate base in America who raves about it.

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    I just provided you the link in my earlier post to show you how popular Chernobyl is in US, and even compared it with WTSU to see the disparity but you just ignored it. Lol

    So here it is again https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    A million American people watching live per episode is not a bad figure but there were 5 episodes on air, people were only catching up on the series later. So here is more figures to show you the official reports that people did catch up on  the series on every platform later.

    1. It’s the most watched TV mini series since Band of Brothers. https://twitter.com/benttravers/status/1154120863601446912?s=21

    2. Almost uninterrupted US viewership climb from its May 6 debut to its June 3 finale, the drama has emerged with a cumulative audience of 8 million so far and this article was written in early June. Been two months since then, do the math. 

    https://deadline.com/2019/06/chernobyl-record-breaking-digital-viewership-game-of-thrones-true-detective-craig-mezin-hbo-emmys-1202631705/

    Visibility in miniseries, I feel, is less relevant to Academy Voters in my opinion. So it won’t help Chernobyl at all. But I feel you simply got Chernobyl’s popularity way off wrong and won’t admit it.

    If you don’t go by evidences then I just have to give up.

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    I just provided you the link in my earlier post to show you how popular Chernobyl is in US, and even compared it with WTSU to see the disparity but you just ignored it. Lol

    So here it is again https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%203-m&geo=US&q=Chernobyl%20hbo,When%20they%20see%20us%20netflix

    A million American people watching live per episode is not a bad figure but there were 5 episodes on air, people were only catching up on the series later. So here is more figures to show you the official reports that people did catch up on the series on every platform later.

    1. It’s the most watched TV mini series since Band of Brothers. https://twitter.com/benttravers/status/1154120863601446912?s=21

    2. Almost uninterrupted US viewership climb from its May 6 debut to its June 3 finale, the drama has emerged with a cumulative audience of 8 million so far and this article was written in early June. Been two months since then, do the math.

    https://deadline.com/2019/06/chernobyl-record-breaking-digital-viewership-game-of-thrones-true-detective-craig-mezin-hbo-emmys-1202631705/

    Visibility in miniseries, I feel, is less relevant to Academy Voters in my opinion. So it won’t help Chernobyl at all. But I feel you simply got Chernobyl’s popularity way off wrong and won’t admit it.

    If you don’t go by evidences then I just have to give up.

    Truly thank you for your service. The previous post straight up cites a source on ratings of continuing series to conclude that the non presence of Chernobyl, a one-off LIMITED series, had poor ratings is pretty pathetic trolling.

    Also logically it would have been viewed widely for it to snag so many nominations across the board even though it was released late into the tv season.

    Thatcher, Former Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Darlings, Classy Clarkson is winning the dildo for Sharp Objects. Just wait and see. She’s sweeping I’m so sorry for the haters. Sorry, bad citizens.

    I was your Prime Minister once.

    Dennis El Mar
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    Yeah honestly, outside of people not liking her performance, I don’t know why people were so quick to drop Clarkson. I want Arquette to win this category, but she lacks the visibility that Clarkson’s series has and we have no proof that the voters will go for a make-up win for losing Leading. Clarkson is a veteran actress in a series that the voters obviously watched and honestly has one of the baitiest characters in her category that she pulls off well, along with a winter sweep of awards. I don’t know why Garner’s SAG nomination in Drama is such a clear sign of industry support but Clarkson’s isn’t just because she lost to Arquette.

    FYC: Mary Kay Place in Diane

    Thatcher, Former Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    And darlings… guess what? Classy Clarkson is indeed Emmy-worthy. Sorry for you, unfaithful citizens!

    I was your Prime Minister once.

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    I don’t have anything against Clarkson – her episode is actually pretty good – but I still think Arquette completely shows her up with her excellent performance on “The Act.” I mean, she’s just insane in that role.

     

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    Dennis El Mar
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    I don’t have anything against Clarkson – her episode is actually pretty good – but I still think Arquette completely shows her up with her excellent performance on “The Act.” I mean, she’s just insane in that role.

    I was hoping that the strength of Arquette’s performance alone would be enough for her to win because she would be incredibly deserving, but that doesn’t change the fact that Clarkson has a lot more in her favor regardless of what anyone thinks of her performance. Clarkson wouldn’t really be a bad winner either, but it feels like the safer choice as well.

    FYC: Mary Kay Place in Diane

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