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  • WildforFilm
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    Finally watched. Agree with almost everything said in the post above. I think this should have served as the penultimate episode with the last episode dealing with the aftermath of what occurred here. The editing took away from the story this episode and made it kind of hard to follow (especially the way they handled Nate’s scenes). This reminds me of the type of show that will start Season 2 without answering half the questions from Season 1 and just move on to new story lines without closing these ones.

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    Even if this is a “teen drama”, I think it’s important to remember that it is on HBO and will be campaigned heavily.

    I’m confident HBO will be able to get Zendaya in Lead Actress, Directing, Cinematography, Editing and Music noms. Probably not Series given that they have Big Little Lies, Succession and Westworld to promote as well.

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    ginnala
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    Even if this is a “teen drama”, I think it’s important to remember that it is on HBO and will be campaigned heavily. I’m confident HBO will be able to get Zendaya in Lead Actress, Directing, Cinematography, Editing and Music noms. Probably not Series given that they have Big Little Lies, Succession and Westworld to promote as well.

    Don’t be delusional. As you said, they already have BLL, Westworld, Succession and Watchmen to promote for drama categories. They couldn’t care less about Euphoria. Zendaya is not happening.

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    Tyler
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    HBO knew exactly what they were doing releasing this in summer. They wanted to simply test it. It’s not Emmys show, but it’s money attraction broadening their service with younger audiences. They don’t care if this goes anywhere when it comes to awards, but if it happens they’re sure gonna like it.

    exactly. No teen drama is ever going to be an awards show, but with Euphoria HBO was able to break into the teen zeitgeist which had been dominated by Netflix in recent years. A large Emmy campaign won’t happen, but a continued strong social media presence is guaranteed.

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    nkb325
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    While I agree it doesn’t really stand much of a chance at the emmy’s, I wouldn’t be surprised if this gets in at the globes, at least for Zendaya. They’ve shown to be MUCH more open to embracing teen centric shows, giving WINS to Claire Danes in My So Called Life, Keri Russell in Felicity, Anna Paquin in True Blood (not about teens but definitely targeted toward a younger audience), Glee for best comedy TWICE, and even recently nominating Katherine Langford for 13 Reasons Why. Even on the film side they’ve nominated people like Emma Stone for Easy A and Haley Steinfeld for Edge of Seventeen.

    Point is wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the Globes embrace this critically acclaimed teen drama, especially not for it’s critically acclaimed lead actress. So I wouldn’t say it has no chance of getting near any awards.

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    I like the series, although some episodes are stronger than other (the carnaval and daddy issues eps). Not that much related to the topic, but I would comment  in a matter of the past few months, I see actors from the series everywhere in the movies with totally different character! From Once Upon A Time in Hollywood (Sydney Sweeney), Scary Stories to Tell In The Dark (Ethan Abrams), and of course Spiderman (Zendaya)! Casting directors totally kill it with the talents

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    Ehm, not a Zendaya hater, but how exactly is she going to make it over:

    Nicole Kidman

    Reese

    Evan R Wood?

    Especially NEXT year.

    HBO is getting two lead actresses nods at most.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    Ehm, not a Zendaya hater, but how exactly is she going to make it over:

    Nicole Kidman

    Reese

    Evan R Wood?

    Especially NEXT year.

    HBO is getting two lead actresses nods at most.

    She could get over Reese performance with ease, she barely had material. Wood barely made it for the second season of Westworld, actually the only awards that nominated her for S2 were the Emmys, all the rest snubbed her.

    And you can keep claiming whatever you want about the cast, but all three performers that you insulted – Alexa Demie, Maude Apatow and Jacob Elordi were unanimously praised, and Jacob Elordi received raves and petitions to be Emmy nominated after the finale. The entire cast is outstanding, the should be winning at SAG, they won’t because many voters have the same lacking of understanding about the subjects of the show and the same kind of prejudices that many of you have here.

    The writing, the cinematography, the directing are a different subject, they are undeniable and impossible to be ignore.

    Same goes for Zendaya, she gave an iconic performance, the amount of praise that she got from fans, form critics and from the industry is much wider and bigger that the six actresses of BLL combined and this is a fact. Many of you keep making the same petty argument about huge stars that are a sure thing because they are huge stars, but every year all the awards circuits snub them for more worthy performances, the latest examples being Kevin Costner and Julia Roberts, keep underestimating Zendaya and the show.

    The other lame argument is that this a show seen only by teens like the completely irrelevant award wise shows of Netflix. A HUGE NO. This is a show that received a huge acclaim from Leonardo DiCaprio and from Rosalía (among many others), two of the biggest and most acclaimed stars of the world, although I will not be surprised if many of you are unaware of the existence of Rosalía…. Euphoria is already an iconic and a completely undeniable show, there has never been anything like it.

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    She could get over Reese performance with ease, she barely had material. Wood barely made it for the second season of Westworld, actually the only awards that nominated her for S2 were the Emmys, all the rest snubbed her. And you can keep claiming whatever you want about the cast, but all three performers that you insulted – Alexa Demie, Maude Apatow and Jacob Elordi were unanimously praised, and Jacob Elordi received raves and petitions to be Emmy nominated after the finale. The entire cast is outstanding, the should be winning at SAG, they won’t because many voters have the same lacking of understanding about the subjects of the show and the same kind of prejudices that many of you have here. The writing, the cinematography, the directing are a different subject, they are undeniable and impossible to be ignore. Same goes for Zendaya, she gave an iconic performance, the amount of praise that she got from fans, form critics and from the industry is much wider and bigger that the six actresses of BLL combined and this is a fact. Many of you keep making the same petty argument about huge stars that are a sure thing because they are huge stars, but every year all the awards circuits snub them for more worthy performances, the latest examples being Kevin Costner and Julia Roberts, keep underestimating Zendaya and the show. The other lame argument is that this a show seen only by teens like the completely irrelevant award wise shows of Netflix. A HUGE NO. This is a show that received a huge acclaim from Leonardo DiCaprio and from Rosalía (among many others), two of the biggest and most acclaimed stars of the world, although I will not be surprised if many of you are unaware of the existence of Rosalía…. Euphoria is already an iconic and a completely undeniable show, there has never been anything like it.

    Mmm OK. I couldn’t care less about “unanimously praised” lol (is there even such a thing?) As if I read articles and articles (of pseudo journalists) to make my own mind about performances. We’re talking about young actors getting to know their craft, not Cotillards and Day-Lewises please

    I watched the whole season. It’s interesting and visually stunning but with the storytelling I have no idea why just some people call it a masterpiece. People should not get their hopes up when it fails at the Emmys. I hope for it to be better in season 2.

    Over the top replies and drama are definitely not requested. Let others express their opinions peacefully. I can still like something while still making sense.

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    Euphoria is not that great let’s not act like it’s the next big thing because it’s not.

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    Reis
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    It is not a masterpiece but you guys are acting like it is a bad show. Euphoria and Zendaya are getting praise for critics, famous people and quiclky builded a fandom on the internet. It is becoming really popular in the social media and it had a lot of technical and narrative aspects that are incredible. I will not be surprised if appears in a few TOP series of the year. It had some flaws but in the aspect of being a teen tv show, they did an amazing job. Like Matt Zoller Seitz said, Euphoria is like My So Called Life was directed by PTA.

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    It is not a masterpiece but you guys are acting like it is a bad show. Euphoria and Zendaya are getting praise for critics, famous people and quiclky builded a fandom on the internet. It is becoming really popular in the social media and it had a lot of technical and narrative aspects that are incredible. I will not be surprised if appears in a few TOP series of the year. It had some flaws but in the aspect of being a teen tv show, they did an amazing job. Like Matt Zoller Seitz said, Euphoria is like My So Called Life was directed by PTA.

    This is more rational. I guess some people here and on SM tend to the superlative when they fail to describe the show strengths. The scripts are well done in portraying how impulsive and disfunctional teens are when they are after short term gratification and attention. I’d like to see more episode-centric installments for Kat and Cassie. They’ll probably add new characters next season as every teen-based show does lol

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    For the season as a whole, Euphoria is averaging 5.6 million viewers as of Sunday — 10 times its linear audience. By comparison, Big Little Lies’ multiplatform audience of 10 million for season two is about six times bigger than the initial tune-in; Game of Thrones (which had a much higher starting point of 12 million linear viewers) grew by a factor of about 3.7 for its final season; and Barry tripled its initial audience.

    Source: THR

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    It is not a masterpiece but you guys are acting like it is a bad show. Euphoria and Zendaya are getting praise for critics, famous people and quiclky builded a fandom on the internet. It is becoming really popular in the social media and it had a lot of technical and narrative aspects that are incredible. I will not be surprised if appears in a few TOP series of the year. It had some flaws but in the aspect of being a teen tv show, they did an amazing job. Like Matt Zoller Seitz said, Euphoria is like My So Called Life was directed by PTA.

    This ^ There is a difference between those of us who appreciated the show for what it was and those who were insisting it was going to run the awards trail, obviously that’s not the case, but that doesn’t mean the quality isn’t there.

    It is ironic that the technical aspects of the show and Zendaya are praised even by those who don’t care for it, yet if a show is “prestige” uneven writing is often excused because of the show’s stature. I will say I think Euphoria S1 as a whole is better than BLL Season 2, but BLL Season 2 ep 2 is better than any particular Euphoria episode. Both have narrative issues, but at least Euphoria was confident in its aesthetic, tone, and direction, where as the aesthetic BLL Season 2 felt like a watered down, carbon copy of the vibe and aesthetic of Season 1.

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    Mmm OK. I couldn’t care less about “unanimously praised” lol (is there even such a thing?) As if I read articles and articles (of pseudo journalists) to make my own mind about performances. We’re talking about young actors getting to know their craft, not Cotillards and Day-Lewises please

    I watched the whole season. It’s interesting and visually stunning but with the storytelling I have no idea why just some people call it a masterpiece. People should not get their hopes up when it fails at the Emmys. I hope for it to be better in season 2.

    Over the top replies and drama are definitely not requested. Let others express their opinions peacefully. I can still like something while still making sense.

    The drama and the over the top replies are coming from you and from your condescending, disrespectful and bitchy remarks over very talented people from the show. I also do not need to read articles to make my own mind about performances, when something is so good it is very clear to me, especially when I personally know people that are exactly like Nate and Maddy. Also, I have seen you using the critics opinion as an argument multiple times, so do not play the card “only my personal opinion matters” now. And again, I am not talking about critics only, I am talking about million of fans and about a big number of important actors and artists.

    Also, I NEVER said that is going to a huge hit with awards, this also goes to Tyler, I even explained why it will not be able to really explode with them. But many shows do not need that to be iconic and very respected and prestigious until the end of times, the best example being another HBO show – The Leftovers, well guest what, Euphoria has been seen by more people (in general) and by more industry people in those two months that The Leftovers in his entire existence. So an undeniable qualities of the show like its cinematography, directing and Zendaya performance are going to be hard to ignore. And your “favorite” Jacob Elordi is a close second.

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