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  • Marcus Snowden (The Artist Formerly Known as msnowden1)
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    I would be SO goddamn happy if Amy Adams won on Sunday.

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    mafro987
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    It’s so weird that none of the Chernobyl support is ever directed at Watson on these fan polls. I wonder whether that can be put down to the fact that her character was an amalgam? It just seems like she is largely ignored (along with Buckley) even though the series has a rabid online fanbase.

    FYC: Carice van Houten, ‘Instinct’, Best Actress

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    ginnala
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    I didn’t care at all about Watson in Chernobyl.

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    To be honest, I never got the huge deal behind Watson’s performance. I mean, was it good? Yes. Was it good enough to warrant her a nomination over someone like Scanlen? Not even close. Maybe it was just too subtle for me, I don’t know. But she was definitely overrated when I was first hearing about the show.

    Variety Ballot (just the top 3):
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    Chernobyl 48
    When They See Us 30
    Sharp Objects 16

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    Amy Adams 38
    Michelle Williams 30
    Patricia Arquette 17

    Sharp Objects in the top three and Adams at number one as how it should be.

    “No user starts this shady” - someone culturally relevant.

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    Pulp
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    How the hell can someone honestly think WTSU was a better directed show than Chernobyl? I’m seriously baffled.

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    Luca
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    Watson gave a very respectable performance, but I, too, don’t get the hype at all. There was nothing groundbreaking about it. She did her material justice and that’s it for me. And that’s how I feel about all Chernobyl actors tbh – although Harris is pretty darn amazing.

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    mafro987
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    I didn’t care at all about Watson in Chernobyl.

    Can you pinpoint why that was? My theory is that it’s a mixture of the fact that her character is an amalgam of several historical actors and therefore audiences aren’t sympathising with her plight, the restrained and coldly executed performance itself, and that this is a show with a massive – largely male – online fanbase which has subconsciously elevated Harris/Skarsgard and other masculine dynamics on the show.

    FYC: Carice van Houten, ‘Instinct’, Best Actress

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    ginnala
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    Can you pinpoint why that was? My theory is that it’s a mixture of the fact that her character is an amalgam of several historical actors and therefore audiences aren’t sympathising with her plight, the restrained and coldly executed performance itself, and that this is a show with a massive – largely male – online fanbase which has subconsciously elevated Harris/Skarsgard and other masculine dynamics on the show.

    I just don’t think she did anything special in the show. She was just, there.

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    Can you pinpoint why that was? My theory is that it’s a mixture of the fact that her character is an amalgam of several historical actors and therefore audiences aren’t sympathising with her plight, the restrained and coldly executed performance itself, and that this is a show with a massive – largely male – online fanbase which has subconsciously elevated Harris/Skarsgard and other masculine dynamics on the show.

    This is especially true with Watson’s character, but the characters often felt like symbolic vessels through which the storyline may flow. The thrill wasn’t in watching the characters develop, but in watching the storyline unfold, and perhaps with such material and A1 directing it really didn’t need to be an acting showcase. But I would personally choose to honor the directing and writing before singling out any of the actors

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    mafro987
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    This is especially true with Watson’s character, but the characters often felt like symbolic vessels through which the storyline may flow. The thrill wasn’t in watching the characters develop, but in watching the storyline unfold, and perhaps with such material and A1 directing it really didn’t need to be an acting showcase. But I would personally choose to honor the directing and writing before singling out any of the actors

    If that was really the case, why are Harris and Skarsgard being pushed so hard? Watson’s performance was certainly up to par with Skarsgard’s (although his character had slightly more variety). It just seems off to me.

    FYC: Carice van Houten, ‘Instinct’, Best Actress

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    Watson’s role was that of a truth teller. Kind of difficult to have real character moments when the true heart of the show is in the great sacrificies made by the first responders and those who persisted to clean up the disaster.

    And on the side, Harris and Skarsgard’s dynamic is organic and award worthy imo. Skarsgard squeezed in a fully fleshed out character arc made more effective by his acting and Harris gave an absolute masterclass in restraint character work with his character’s frustrations, fears and last minute courage to do the brave thing just bubbling under the surface.

    Both are great underrated actors (Harris in The Terror and Skarsgard in River are some of my favourite performances ever) so hoping they get their due here.

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    Watson’s role was that of a truth teller. Kind of difficult to have real character moments when the true heart of the show is in the great sacrificies made by the first responders and those who persisted to clean up the disaster. And on the side, Harris and Skarsgard’s dynamic is organic and award worthy imo. Skarsgard squeezed in a fully fleshed out character arc made more effective by his acting and Harris gave an absolute masterclass in restraint character work with his character’s frustrations, fears and last minute courage to do the brave thing just bubbling under the surface. Both are great underrated actors (Harris in The Terror and Skarsgard in River are some of my favourite performances ever) so hoping they get their due here.

    Thoroughly agree with this. They’d both be incredibly deserving winners.

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    jez89
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    Honey, watch Jharrel Jerome lose to some white dude.

    Why does this need to be turned into a race thing? Harris gives far and away the better performance. Jerome had good moments but not as good as Harris. Race has nothing to do with it.

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    WTSU maxed out in acting nods while Chernobly didn’t get in Jessie Buckley, who should have been an easy coattail nominee. If Assante Blackk was able to get in, then there’s no excuse for her not to.

    My problem with this argument is that different fan bases have different standards.  Some are more prone to voting the ticket.  There were a couple of years there where Downton Abbey just got everyone nominated.  Breaking Bad meanwhile never got Dean Norris nominated.  The academy was overrun with Downton Abbey stans, but there were ultimately not enough of them to give it a series win over Breaking Bad.  It could be the same thing with When They See Us versus Chernobyl.  Another example is how Rami Malek was able to win for the first season of Mr. Robot despite Christian Slater and BD Wong getting snubbed.  That was the year that House of Cards got eight acting nominations.

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    My problem with this argument is that different fan bases have different standards. Some are more prone to voting the ticket. There were a couple of years there where Downton Abbey just got everyone nominated. Breaking Bad meanwhile never got Dean Norris nominated. The academy was overrun with Downton Abbey stans, but there were ultimately not enough of them to give it a series win over Breaking Bad. It could be the same thing with When They See Us versus Chernobyl. Another example is how Rami Malek was able to win for the first season of Mr. Robot despite Christian Slater and BD Wong getting snubbed. That was the year that House of Cards got eight acting nominations.

    That Dean Norris snub still pisses me off. Should’ve at least been nominated for the second half of season 5.

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