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    Morgan Henard
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    I’ve watched both seasons in the last three weeks from beginning to end. Season 1 was really good, though I was surprised Peter Dinklage submitted the episode he did and even more surprised he won for it (I would have submitted the one where Bron fights for him and saves Tyrion from being “the little man that flies”). And I, of course, was stunned by the killing of Ned in episode 9. My MVPs for season 1 were, easily, Peter Dinklage and Emilia Clarke.

    Now, as for season 2, Peter Dinklage was again the MVP. I felt badly for Emilia Clarke because it was as if she floated through the season due to the lack of material she had. Now, I have not read the books, but I felt season 1 was perfectly told in 10 episodes. It seemed to have a natural fluidity. But this season felt extremely rushed. Whereas some storylines felt like filler – primarily, Dany’s – others were massively rushed, especially the last three episodes. I’m rolling with the series and can’t wait for season three to begin. I may try to read books one through three between now and then; I feel like knowing the original source material will help me out. What I don’t understand is why it didn’t get more than 10 episodes. Has HBO given the showrunners a rule of no more than 10 episodes?? It worked for the first season but season 2 should have easily been 12 or 13 episodes.

    On a sidenote that’s none of my business – yet I feel compelled to chime in – some posters need to chill out. There’s a lot of nastiness being spewed around in this thread and it’s unnecessary. So what if some have read the book? They have a better grasp on the original source material and are merely contributing to what the books said, which I find particularly helpful to a non-reader of the book series like myself. But, some have lashed out at those of us who haven’t read the books…That’s equally not fair. Books are great, but I’ll choose an evening of a great television series any night over a book (and I do enjoy reading, just film/television/theatre are a bit more enjoyable for me). But having not read the books does create a little head-scratching confusion with a complex series like this and that’s totally okay and understandable. To sum it all up: Get a glass of wine and chill the f*** out. We’re all fans of the series and passionate about it. No need to attack other fans.

    Overall:
    – Supporting Actor: Peter Dinklage, “Blackwater” (2.9)
    – Supporting Actress: Lena Headey, “Blackwater” (2.9)
    – Supporting Actress: Emilia Clarke, “Valor Morghulis” (2.10)
    – Writing: “Blackwater” (2.9)
    – Directing: “Blackwater” (2.9)
    – Drama Series: -who knows- I think it’s safe for the nomination, but I don’t see a series like this ever winning. With the way the system works, it would massively confuse voters who aren’t fans of the show. I would love to see it happen to be honest. It happened once with Lost (at the expense of the grand finale of Six Feet Under, which didn’t even get the nom) so maybe it’ll happen again. 

    Now onto my next series from beginning of season 1 to the end of season 2: Boardwalk Empire. Here we go. 

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    EmmyLoser
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    You guys are kind of crazy here in the Primetime Emmy boards, but I guess I’m getting used to it. 

    Morgan, to answer your question about episode orders, I believe the EPs have said that doing more than 10 episodes in a season would be pretty much impossible from a production standpoint. 

    In theory, I agree with robbypop that I don’t want to have to read the books to understand the show.  It needs to be able to stand on its own.  But then, I disagree in that I think it stands on its own pretty well, certainly in the scenes with the white walkers at the end.

    As for the finale, I thought it was very good, but not as fantastic as I wanted it to be.  There really did need to be another episode, because it felt like there were too many things trying to happen, and some of them came across as insignificant or too open to interpretation.  The best stuff was with Danaerys.  It was such a great surprise seeing her brief reunion with Drogo, and she reasserted what a force she is by basically taking over Qarth.  Awesome, and good lord I cannot wait until she gets those dragons to King’s Landing.

    What we saw happening in King’s Landing was mostly good.  Joffrey opting to marry the Tyrell girl (whose name I forget) was great, and the logical progression of things with Tywin becoming the Hand and Tyrion basically being ousted absolutely worked.  Tyrion and Shae were also very sweet together.  But I also felt like we should have seen more of what was happening in King’s Landing, after spending all of the previous episode there.  I’m surprised, for example, that Stannis and Melisandre weren’t executed, and I think we should have gotten some indication of what’s supposed to happen with them.  (If I missed any of this, please let me know.)  And just what does Sensa think she’s going to do now? 

    I also feel like Robb’s story was completely neutered by the ending of Blackwater and the events at Winterfell in the last few episodes.  Robb had been a hero, defeating Tywin’s forces left and right, but it now seems Tywin’s people are joined with the Gold Cloaks at King’s Landing and they have Renley’s people and the Tyrells behind them.  So Robb seems not to matter much any more.  I understand that his choosing to break his oath and not marry one of the bridge guy’s daughters will have repercussions, but they just don’t seem all that important.  Robb’s home is now a burned out wasteland, and the Starks are scattered and nearly all in dire straits. 

    And what exactly did happen in Winterfell?  This is a point that I do feel should have been made clearer.  I assumed that Theon’s men just created the illusion that there were 500 men outside the walls because they wanted to leave.  I’ve also been disagreeing with someone about whether or not Theon was killed.

    Still, overall I certainly enjoyed the episode and the season, and I’m bummed I’ll have to wait 10 months until the next season.  I’m tempted to try to read the books, but they look really long.

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    For me, season 2’s acting MVP’s were easily Peter Dinklage, Maisie Williams, and Lena Headey. All 3 would be worthy of nominations. I’d say that the series should get a Best Drama nomination, writing and directing for “Blackwater”, and tons of crafts (makeup, visual effects, score, etc.).

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    I want to see “Game of Thrones” win the Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series after this epic season and finale. Here’s where I see it getting nominated:
     
    -Drama Series
    -Supporting Actor in a Drama Series – Peter Dinklage
    -Directing for a Drama Series – Neil Marshall for “Blackwater”
    -Writing for a Drama Series – David Benioff & D.B. Weiss for “Valar Morghulis”
    -Art Direction for a Single-Camera Series
    -Casting for a Drama Series
    -Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series
    -Costumes for a Series
    -Makeup (Non-Prosthetic) for a Single-Camera Series
    -Makeup (Prosthetic) for a Series, Miniseries, or Dramatic Special
    -Music Composition for a Series
    -Sound Editing for a Series
    -Sound Mixing for a Series
    -Special Visual Effects
    -Stunt Coordination

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    G’Day guys,

    On our podcast I did a game of Thrones season review. We have a special guest from Survivor (Rob Cesternino) and have a pretty fun chat about who played the best game of Thrones this season. There’s also a competition to WIN the Game of Thrones book at the end. Would love to hear your guys thoughts on it.

    You can check it out here:
    http://screenverdict.podomatic.com/entry/2012-06-07T20_37_59-07_00       

    Or download it at itunes: just search for “screen verdict”

    Or listen to it on our facebook fan page:
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Screen-Verdict/298545723489844  

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    Is anyone else wondering why Game of Thrones doesn’t submit ballots for the guest acting categories? A lot of the actors are worthy. It’s a shame they can’t get recognized. Conleth Hill’s portrayal of Varys is spot on and Gethin Anthony was great as Renly this past season. Hope HBO considers submitting next season.

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    It happened once with Lost (at the expense of the grand finale of Six Feet Under, which didn’t even get the nom) so maybe it’ll happen again.

    The first season of Lost was up against the fourth season of Six Feet Under, not the fifth and final season. Both Lost and Six Feet Under were left out of the Outstanding Drama Series category the following year. The SFU finale was nominated for both writing and directing, though. 

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    Is anyone else wondering why Game of Thrones doesn’t submit ballots for the guest acting categories? A lot of the actors are worthy. It’s a shame they can’t get recognized. Conleth Hill’s portrayal of Varys is spot on and Gethin Anthony was great as Renly this past season. Hope HBO considers submitting next season.

    Maybe they think they don’t have a shot and thus don’t submit, which would be sad. Charles Dance, Liam Cunningham, John Bradley, Natalie Dormer, Stephen Dillane, Carice van Houten, James Cosmo, Jerome Flynn, Conleth Hill, and Sibel Kekilli, who either were upped to regular status or just joined the show, should have remained credited as guest stars, so they could submit there. Most of the above didn’t have enough material to warrant a supporting nom, but they did have enough for a guest nom. If they had submitted in guest, I would have defintely nominated Dormer and van Houten for Guest Actress and nominated Dance and Hill for Guest Actor. Cunningham, Dillane, Flynn, and Kekilli would have been in consideration. Bradley and Cosmo didn’t get enough to do, sadly.  

    As for actual guest stars, I would single out Tom Wlaschiha for Guest Actor and, particularly, Rose Leslie for Guest Actress, who is my #1 pick for the category. Gwendoline Christie would also be in consideration. 

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    [quote=”IndelibleMarko”]Is anyone else wondering why Game of Thrones doesn’t submit ballots for the guest acting categories? A lot of the actors are worthy. It’s a shame they can’t get recognized. Conleth Hill’s portrayal of Varys is spot on and Gethin Anthony was great as Renly this past season. Hope HBO considers submitting next season.

    Maybe they think they don’t have a shot and thus don’t submit, which would be sad. Charles Dance, Liam Cunningham, John Bradley, Natalie Dormer, Stephen Dillane, Carice van Houten, James Cosmo, Jerome Flynn, Conleth Hill, and Sibel Kekilli, who either were upped to regular status or just joined the show, should have remained credited as guest stars, so they could submit there. Most of the above didn’t have enough material to warrant a supporting nom, but they did have enough for a guest nom. If they had submitted in guest, I would have defintely nominated Dormer and van Houten for Guest Actress and nominated Dance and Hill for Guest Actor. Cunningham, Dillane, Flynn, and Kekilli would have been in consideration. Bradley and Cosmo didn’t get enough to do, sadly.  

    As for actual guest stars, I would single out Tom Wlaschiha for Guest Actor and, particularly, Rose Leslie for Guest Actress, who is my #1 pick for the category. Gwendoline Christie would also be in consideration. [/quote]

    I don’t get why HBO doesn’t see they have a chance. It’s irrelevant. As you pointed out, they don’t have enough material for a supporting nom but a guest nom is a no-brainer. While most of them were promoted as regulars this season, I’d rather they stayed as part of the guest cast. I guess the showrunners had to show they appreciate their performances, hence the promotions. 

    Nominations for both Conleth Hill and Charles Dance are good cases in point. Van Houten is part of the regular cast. She was good but I don’t see her getting a nom. The only female I think worth considering for Oustanding Supporting Actress for Drama is Lena Headey. Sadly, Emilia Clarke didn’t have much material this season.

    The guest cast since season one have not been given the recognition they deserve. They may have little material but, hey, they get notice on-screen. Maybe, just maybe… HBO considers next year.

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    I would love to see lots of actresses you guys mentioned getting nominated, Van Houten, Sibel Kekilli and also Rose Leslie, her delivery of her famous line on the books “You know nothing Jon Snow” was just perfect, Sibel showed strong acting on her scenes opposite to Dinklage and Van Houten maybe didn’t have enough material that season but was very good on her scenes.

    The male actors, I believe Conleth Hill/Dance/Dillane were totally worth of a nomination, Cunningham didn’t have much to do on this season but… spoiler in white……his material on third season is huge, and if he manages to show all that rage and despaire/depression on the screen he has a lot of chances….end of spoiler in white.

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    Big casting news for season 3. Love the “Rome” mentions.

    “Game of Thrones” casts “Rome” actor as Mance Rayder—EXCLUSIVE

    by James Hibberd

    The biggest new “Game of Thrones” role is going to . . .

    Ciarán Hinds!

    The “Rome” actor has been cast as Wildling leader Mance Rayder, the King Beyond the Wall. Rayder has united the disparate clans of the Far North behind a single mission: To attack The Wall. He’s been frequently referenced (though unseen) in the HBO hit fantasy drama’s first two seasons. In the second season finale, undercover Night’s Watchman Jon Snow (Kit Harington) was being taken to meet Rayder.

    The casting caps months—years, really—of online speculation about who would play Rayder. For awhile, Hinds’ “Rome” co-star James Purefoy received some fan votes, though he’s booked on Fox’s “The Following.”

    For Hinds, the casting is a sort of homecoming—he was born in Belfast, where the show’s primary production is based (“Thrones” S3 is also shooting in Croatia, Iceland, and Morocco). He’s appeared in films such as “Munich,” “Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy,” and “John Carter.” But TV fans know him best from “Rome,” where he was a very imposing Julius Caesar. He recently also had an arc on USA’s “Political Animals.”

    The news marks the second actor to join “Thrones”‘ third season from “Rome.” Tobias Menzies (who played Brutus) was recently cast as Edmure Tully, the younger brother of Catelyn Stark, who has become Lord of Riverrun in the wake of his father’s death.

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