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    ArtIsntEasy
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    Glee was good for half a season

    This!

    I was a Junior in college when GLEE premiered and while at the time I was very open to it, it wore off its welcome fast and I completely stopped watching by the middle of the second season.

    Jane Lynch was the best thing about it…and while I do appreciate it opening up a lot of material to younger audiences, I just didn’t stay connected to it.

    It also didn’t help that I cannot stand Lea Michele.

    “The art of making art is putting it together...”

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    Literally everyone gave their opinion on the show you just came for us because our opinion was negative.

    I think there’s quite a few reasons for this, the main ones being that it was very unlucky to debut the same year as Modern Family and that it was never really the kind of show you’d expect the Emmys to embrace. A smaller, more arguable, one that I do think worth mentioning is the main cast’s woeful episode submissions record under an unforgiving tape system. With the exception of Lynch’s “Power of Mandonna” and “Feud” submissions, they were all too dramatic or, frankly, lacking in screentime to win. Not saying they would have won but they would have at least given themselves a fighting chance on a system that sometimes awarded the randomest of winners. The greatest example of this being Lea Michele’s “Sectionals” submission which she presumably submitted solely for her performance of Don’t Rain on My Parade even though she barely does anything else in it. If she’d submitted the pilot or especially “Laryngitis”, she could have threatened Edie Falco. Similarly, Chris Colfer’s “Grilled Cheesus”, which undoubtedly won him the Globe, didn’t have him do one funny thing so he was never gonna win. As for the creative arts wins, a lot of the ones they might have won for the first or second season like costumes and art direction (now production design) were before those categories got broken up so it was competing against these big period pieces rather than contemporary stuff.

    Glee deserved so much more in terms of nominations and wins. The fact that Naya Rivera never received a nom (at the very least) and Lea Michele was dropped so quickly (and never won) is just ridiculous. The show will remain one of the most eye-opening, groundbreaking and trail-blazing shows EVER. I watched my first episode when I was nine years old. I have never heard of the word “gay” before, and now I’m openly gay, have been since 2013. The show has an impact on my life that I never thought a TV show could have. I still occasionally re-watch episodes when I’m down in the dumps.

    So this was inspired by a thread about Buffy at the Emmys. Glee won 6 Emmys over it’s 6 year run but I was wondering why it did not win more? The show did dip after season 2 and had a drastic dip after season 4 but I still think season 1 should have at least won the top prize at the Emmys. Please share any thoughts below.

    Glee was good for half a season

    I find it laughable that Matthew Morrison is an Emmy-nominated actor.

    Glee had flaws since episode 1. I would have given it the Modern Family Emmys for S1 and that’s purely subjective. ALSO, Glee has never been great.

    I just said that I’d given to Glee all the Modern Family Emmys for S1, so… Not you saying I have questionable taste when you just said that Corey Monteith was deserving of an Emmy nom. You have… interesting standards.

    There is actually a big difference in the way Luca, forwardswill and I were talking before Kelvin came into the discussion. I do acknowledge, Luca and I did say we liked the show but rather than saying “we like it and anyone else who hates it is a moron” we stated that we just think it deserved to win more Emmys. Luca and I even cited episodes and storylines we think it should have won or been nominated for. Forwardswill even examined some of the flaws in Glee as reasoning why it lost some Emmys.

    However, Kelvin, LaPatrona, LauraLinneyisWinning and Evan Rachel have belittled the opinions of Luca, forwardswill and myself, expressed their own opinions as being more superior than ours and then personally attacking our taste. There is a very big difference in the ways Luca, forwardswill and myself have spoken to the other users, we’ve been analysing the show (which we happen to like). What the other users have been doing is trolling. It’s almost as if every time Luca, forwardswill and I open our mouths we’re attacked by you, sometimes even on other forums. This is the reason why many people have stayed out of the television forums or left Goldderby (not because of these users specifically but those who just attack other people’s opinions and tastes because they disagree with them). It’s childish and frankly I find it ironic that you’re posting in this forum attacking a show that was about embracing diversity and being peaceful with one another instead of hating due to a difference in identity or opinion.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    However, Kelvin, LaPatrona, LauraLinneyisWinning and Evan Rachel have belittled the opinions of Luca, forwardswill and myself, expressed their own opinions as being more superior than ours and then personally attacking our taste.

    You HAVE to be kidding

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    I mean you even had the courage to write that Corey Monteith should have been nominated for an Emmy. Nothing you’ll say should be taken seriously from now on.

    There is actually a big difference in the way Luca, forwardswill and I were talking before Kelvin came into the discussion. I do acknowledge, Luca and I did say we liked the show but rather than saying “we like it and anyone else who hates it is a moron” we stated that we just think it deserved to win more Emmys. Luca and I even cited episodes and storylines we think it should have won or been nominated for. Forwardswill even examined some of the flaws in Glee as reasoning why it lost some Emmys. However, Kelvin, LaPatrona, LauraLinneyisWinning and Evan Rachel have belittled the opinions of Luca, forwardswill and myself, expressed their own opinions as being more superior than ours and then personally attacking our taste. There is a very big difference in the ways Luca, forwardswill and myself have spoken to the other users, we’ve been analysing the show (which we happen to like). What the other users have been doing is trolling. It’s almost as if every time Luca, forwardswill and I open our mouths we’re attacked by you, sometimes even on other forums. This is the reason why many people have stayed out of the television forums or left Goldderby (not because of these users specifically but those who just attack other people’s opinions and tastes because they disagree with them). It’s childish and frankly I find it ironic that you’re posting in this forum attacking a show that was about embracing diversity and being peaceful with one another instead of hating due to a difference in identity or opinion.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    To be fair, I was the one who brought taste into it but otherwise thank you Wolfali for a cracking post that sums it up perfectly.

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    This thread is more melodramatic than Glee itself, lmao, which wasn’t the point of it when Wolfali posted it. Why did people need to infiltrate this thread with insubstantial comments such as “this show was good for only five minutes.”

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    Now, would anyone else care to actually respond to Wolfali’s original question?

    ^I want it on record that I tried to restore normality

    So I guess it begs the question why you wasted your time on thinking I care that someone that has trash taste thinks I have dull taste? The gap in your own logic…

    Wasted my time? You are quite literally the person who responded to my dull taste comment. I haven’t had to think anything – your reaction said it all.

    And this entire thread was an opinion piece. Our opinion and our debate: it didn’t win many Emmys because it was a bad show where its only respect could be earned in nominations because of campiness being appreciated by very few.

    And you couldn’t have said this more constructive opinion originally because…

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    @chris-beachum @thedemonhog @tomoneil could you help out here and delete any posts by ANY user that go past the first few posts on this forum that are attack posts and don’t actually relate to why Glee didn’t win certain Emmys or whether it should have won more or less Emmys?

    To be honest they should just delete the thread at this point. We’re never gonna have the discussion you wanted Wolfali and to delete only some users’ comments would just be censorship.

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    So the reason I had the query was because the show received multiple nominations past it’s first two seasons, receiving eight more Emmy nominations, another Globe nomination and four more key guild nominations (all of these without including the nominations received by Jane Lynch).

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    You know you may want to delete or edit this comment because some may take offence at what you’ve said here.

    Saying something is campy isn’t offensive

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    Because it’s a silly and repetitive show filled with unlikable characters. Six Emmys is a lot already.

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    … We literally said that Glee didn’t deserve more Emmys because it was bad and definitely not deserving, what else you want us to say, isn’t that clear?

    That’s just not a constructive opinion though when quite clearly Emmy voters liked the show initially or they wouldn’t have given it a year-leading 20 nominations

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    People expressed a positive opinion on the show and so did ones with the negative ones. But the user who created the thread tried to unnecessarily drag someone who did not like the show because of personal reasons. Talk about deviating from the main topic of your own threads. It’s no wonder he has deleted that post now. Anyway, these threads are going to attract people who’d want to talk about the show since it was so long ago, positively or negatively. And if some people are so pressed by other’s opinions then maybe try not to create a public thread about it? Like you can’t expect people to stay calm and not drag you when you call their taste dull just because they didn’t like a show you love.

    Live and let live. These messy fights don’t look good.

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    Well as someone who is bisexual I do take offence at that. But I guess hey people who aren’t part of the LGBT community get to decide what is said in a hurtful way or what is homophobic nowadays?

    Who said I wasn’t part of the LGBT community ? Ryan Murphy calls himself his shows camp. There is nothing offensive with that.

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    who isn’t gay on these forums?

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