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    I am mixed on the calls for deletion of the thread. I do not like the idea that someone might have only caught the beginning and not read my assessment. Maybe that is selfish and not for the best, so no worries from me if another moderator deletes. I could also close it, but discussion seems to have ended anyway. Everyone of course has the power to erase their own responses.

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    Given the dearth of options in drama series this year, I would like to nominate this thread for the top award. It must be no less than fourth.

    Move over This is Us! There’s a new melodrama in town.

    Y’all wouldn’t last a day in the Music side of Goldderby lol.

    I dread to think how Hollywood, Mrs. America and Watchmen would fare if that side was in the Limited Series races…

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    If we’re keeping it open, then let me add one thing:

    Glee strunggled at the Emmys, even when it was still good, because it just wasn’t always a comedy. I consider Glee a drama with a lot of freaky, comedic elements. Jane Lynch was still able to win because Sue Sylvester was (and will always be) one of the most hilarious characters on TV.

    And to go back a bit to the use of “campy:” I never thought it was offensive as I only ever knew it as being an expression for something theatrical, over the top and perhaps even flamboyant (as couverture already said). But I soon discovered in which context it’s been used in the past: Because people often regard gay people (mostly men) as the aforementioned terms, the term “camp” has become offensive to some people, which I get. Then again, only people (like many of us here, I assume) who have been subjected to homophobia will fully understand.

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    I think this thread is going to win the Drama Ensemble SAG next year and not The Crown or Ozark.

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    And our show will air, appropriately, on the CW.

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    Riverdale who?

    And to go back a bit to the use of “campy:” I never thought it was offensive as I only ever knew it as being an expression for something theatrical, over the top and perhaps even flamboyant (as couverture already said). But I soon discovered in which context it’s been used in the past: Because people often regard gay people (mostly men) as the aforementioned terms, the term “camp” has become offensive to some people, which I get. Then again, only people (like many of us here, I assume) who have been subjected to homophobia will fully understand.

    This.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    I think glee was great for what it was back then, a trailblazing show that talked about stuff that no other shows were willing to talk about (in a serious manner at least), that said it was super messy since the first season, always developing random plots that went nowhere, random characters that had no purpose (glee project people) idk It really didnt age well, plus the show had some sort of curse for many of the cast members cause some of them are just a mess nowadays, Id give it the emmys it won and maaaybe 1 lead actress one for Lea but I still think Edie was great in NJ and Collette who beat her in the GGs gave a masterclass in USOT so i really don’t think she was robbed, I also would have given more guest wins like to Chenoweth and would have Nommed Agron and Darren a couple of times with criss winning maybe for the NY season

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    Kate Hudson should’ve been nominated & won Guest Actress for her performance as Cassie July in Season 4. Her being one of 7 submissions to the category from the show was always going to be a hard hurdle to overcome and she unfortunately overcome.

    Side-note Glee’s 2014 submissions to Guest Actress were wild

    • Melissa Benoist as Marley Rose
    • Patty Duke as Jan
    • Kate Hudson as Cassandra July
    • Dot-Marie Jones as Shannon Beiste
    • NeNe Leakes as Coach Roz
    • Sarah Jessica Parker as Isabelle Wright
    • Lauren Potter as Becky Jackson

    High-key love how despite being in 22/22 episodes, Benoist was still considered a guest star.

    Darren a couple of times with criss winning maybe for the NY season

    Funfact: despite Blaine becoming the de-factor lead of the show in Season 5, Criss was left off the supporting actor ballot (and Emmy ballot period) in favour of Colfer, Jenner, McHale & Overstreet.

    Also this is the first time I see a thread this messy in the TV forums. Y’all wouldn’t last a day in the Music side of Goldderby lol.

    They wouldn’t be able to the handle the sheer volume of “Honey’s” & “=BARF‘s”.

    I dread to think how Hollywood, Mrs. America and Watchmen would fare if that side was in the Limited Series races…

    Y’all clearly don’t remember last season when the Liddos infiltrated the Movie threads.

    Emmys FYC | Alan Tudyk in “Resident Alien” | Jennifer C. Holmes in “This Is Us” | Ego Nwodim in “Saturday Night Live” | Kaley Cuoco in “Harley Quinn” | “Dickinson” | “P-Valley” | “Pose” | “Superstore”

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    He He at the NeNe Leakes submission.

    I think glee was great for what it was back then, a trailblazing show that talked about stuff that no other shows were willing to talk about (in a serious manner at least), that said it was super messy since the first season, always developing random plots that went nowhere, random characters that had no purpose (glee project people) idk It really didnt age well, plus the show had some sort of curse for many of the cast members cause some of them are just a mess nowadays, Id give it the emmys it won and maaaybe 1 lead actress one for Lea but I still think Edie was great in NJ and Collette who beat her in the GGs gave a masterclass in USOT so i really don’t think she was robbed, I also would have given more guest wins like to Chenoweth and would have Nommed Agron and Darren a couple of times with criss winning maybe for the NY season

    No one stood a chance against Betty White in 2010 for Guest Actress in a Comedy. Kristen had a better shot in 2011, but Paltrow was the buzziest and had a lot of screen time. Sherri Shepherd should have been nominated and won for her guest appearance in the “Queen of Jordan” episode from 30 Rock in 2011.

    2010 – GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY

    Betty White Saturday Night Live WINNER
    Christine Baranski The Big Bang Theory
    Kristin Chenoweth Glee
    Tina Fey Saturday Night Live
    Kathryn Joosten Desperate Housewives
    Jane Lynch Two and a Half Men
    Elaine Stritch 30 Rock

    2011 – GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY
    Gwyneth Paltrow Glee – WINNER

    Elizabeth Banks 30 Rock
    Kristin Chenoweth Glee
    Tina Fey Saturday Night Live
    Dot-Marie Jones Glee
    Cloris Leachman Raising Hope

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    2010 – GUEST ACTRESS IN A COMEDY

    Betty White Saturday Night Live WINNER
    Christine Baranski The Big Bang Theory
    Kristin Chenoweth Glee
    Tina Fey Saturday Night Live
    Kathryn Joosten Desperate Housewives
    Jane Lynch Two and a Half Men
    Elaine Stritch 30 Rock

    Off-Topic but I think we should’ve know how much the industry would love Jane Lynch when (in her breakout year) she got nominated for a different role she’d already been playing for decade.

    Emmys FYC | Alan Tudyk in “Resident Alien” | Jennifer C. Holmes in “This Is Us” | Ego Nwodim in “Saturday Night Live” | Kaley Cuoco in “Harley Quinn” | “Dickinson” | “P-Valley” | “Pose” | “Superstore”

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    High-key love how despite being in 22/22 episodes, Benoist was still considered a guest star.

    Yeah this is strange. Maybe Benoist was eligible? For some reason some guest actors on Glee get credited in episodes they don’t actually appear in which is confusing (e.g. Jesalyn Gilsig in season 1 and 2).

    Also as much as I love Melissa Benoist apart from Hudson, Jones and Potter, no one else deserved to be submitted for Guest Actress. Jones deservedly got two nominations but Potter should have at least been nominated and Hudson should have won.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Also this is the first time I see a thread this messy in the TV forums. Y’all wouldn’t last a day in the Music side of Goldderby lol.

    That’s what I don’t get about these Movie/TV forums… lol.

    Welcome to the internet. Yeah, sometimes people are going to yell at you about your wrong opinions and tell you that the things you like are shit!

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    So I finished re-watching season 3 and I think that the show (although I enjoyed season 4, 5 and 6) would have made sense creatively to end there. I think sadly post Cory Monteith’s death during season 5 the show completely fell off a cliff (which understandably wasn’t their fault). Although I enjoyed season 3 as much as 1 and 2 I’d argue that 1 and 2 can be treated as one season and season 3 can be treated as the show’s sophomore slump (although it wasn’t that much of a slump as certain people suggested).

    I think above the line the show deserved these nominations and wins for this season (bold are wins)

    1. Outstanding Comedy Series (2012)
    2. Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series (Lea Michele) (3×18: “Choke”)
    3. Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series (Darren Criss) (3×15 : “Big Brother”)
    4. Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series (Chris Colfer) (3×18: “Choke”)
    5. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Dianna Agron) (3×02 : “I am Unicorn”)
    6. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Jane Lynch) (3×12 : “The Spanish Teacher”)
    7. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Jayma Mays) (3×03 : “Asian F”)
    8. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Heather Morris) (3×12 : “Prom-Asaurus”)
    9. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Naya Rivera) (3×07 : “I Kissed a Girl”)
    10. Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series (Matt Bomer) (3×15 : “Big Brother”)
    11. Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series (Jeff Goldblum) (3×13 : “Heart”)
    12. Outstanding Guest Actor in a Comedy Series (Brian Stokes Mitchell) (3×13 : “Heart”)
    13. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Whoopi Goldberg) (3×18 : “Choke”)
    14. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Dot Marie-Jones) (3×18 : “Choke”)
    15. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Lauren Potter) (3×10 : “Yes/No”)
    16. Outstanding Directing in a Comedy Series (Michael Uppendahl) (3×18 : “Choke”)
    17. Outstanding Directing in a Comedy Series (Alfonso Gomez-Rejon) (3×03 : “Asian F”)

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    So I re-binged Glee season 4 and although the quality has gone down from season 1 and 2, it still remains a good show with brilliant actors and interesting ideas. I am a bit upset now though because I know that following “The Quarterback” the show literally understandably throws itself off a cliff edge.

    Whilst I enjoyed season 4 and love Melissa Benoist’s work I think that had they not introduced all these new characters into the show, the quality of the show would have improved massively.

    I think season 4 should have been nominated for these above the line Emmys.

    Bold for who I think should have won.

    1. Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series (Lea Michele) (S4x12 “Naked”)
    2. Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series (Chris Colfer) (S4x10 “Glee, Actually”)
    3. Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series (Darren Criss) (S4x07 “Dynamic Duets”)
    4. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Melissa Benoist) (S4x01 “The New Rachel”) (were there 8 nominees)
    5. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Jane Lynch) (S4x16 “Feud”)
    6. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Heather Morris) (S4x22 “All or Nothing”)
    7. Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series (Naya Rivera) (S4x13 “Diva”)
    8. <strongOutstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Kate Hudson) (S4x02 “Britney 2.0”)</strong
    9. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Jayma Mays) (S4x14 “I Do”)
    10. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Sarah Jessica Parker) (S4x03 “Makeover”)
    11. Outstanding Guest Actress in a Comedy Series (Lauren Potter) (S4x18 “Shooting Star”)
    12. Outstanding Directing in a Comedy Series (Brad Falchuk) (S4x14 “I Do”)
    13. Outstanding Directing in a Comedy Series (Bradley Buecker) (S4x18 “Shooting Star”)
    14. Outstanding Writing in a Comedy Series (Ian Brennan) (S4x14 “I Do”)

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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