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    wolfali
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    Not sure how it is anywhere else but here you can already feel the cultural effect around The Queen’s Gambit. It’s literally being talked about in every paper and apparently Eurosport has now bought 2 year rights to broadcast the UK chess championship because of the show.

    I’m expecting the exact same thing to happen with The Crown when it releases on Sunday. In the UK the famous Lady Di interview is already a massice story in the mainstream news because a scandal has arisen around specific details broadcast in the interview and tje arrangement of the interview (including the journalist who interviewed Di being accused of making false claims to the public).

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    Yes The Queen’s Gambit is huge. I know the common assumption is a newcomer will win the golden globe and a veteran will then get SAG but I think Anya’s performance and her show is popular enough for her to actually take both.

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    Yes The Queen’s Gambit is huge. I know the common assumption is a newcomer will win the golden globe and a veteran will then get SAG but I think Anya’s performance and her show is popular enough for her to actually take both.

    I agree with you she could take SAG but what holds me back from predicting her (and Corrin) at SAG is the fact their portrayals (or at least what we’ve heard about Corrin’s portrays from reviews) are those of metamorphosis and we’ve seen time and time again how those performances aren’t necessarily does SAG voters go for (as excellent and win worthy as they are). Look at Riz Ahmed losing SAG to Bryan Cranston when he transformed into LBJ. Or when Sam Rockwell won at SAG for playing Bob Fosse over the incumbent Emmy winner Jharrel Jerome and Jared Harris. This is enough to make me think that Blanchett (and to an extent Kidman) stands a chance as SAG tends to prefer louder and more transformative performances.

    Although I’m not ruling Taylor-Joy out of winning SAG! I think she’s the Emmy frontrunner out of all the performances that have been seen (so far although that can easily change) and is a near lock for a SAG nomination (she’s likelier to get a nomination than Michaela Coel and Daisy Edgar-Jones imo). It’s also worth baring in mind when it comes to Taylor-Joy that she is also not a newcomer when it comes to success in the States in the sense of someone like Emma Corrin (who is a newcomer completely regardless of the UK or US) or Jodie Comer was in the US. Taylor-Joy just led a hugely successful adaptation of a popular classical novel, had a supporting role in a fairly popular show on television for one season and has had a key supporting role in a popular franchise (the M. Night Shyamalan Glass/Split trilogy) so she’s more in the lane of someone like Beanie Feldstein, McKenna Grace and Kaitlyn Dever in the sense of being someone who is rising in the industry but they are also a recognisable and popular name (at least with younger SAG voters).

    On a separate note I see people are underestimating awards nomination darling Meryl Streep on the TV side at the Globes and SAG.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    The ratings for week 3 of The Undoing that you stated are incorrect. Nielsen ratings had a massive stuff up on Sunday night and didn’t record the premiere episodes of many HBO shows including The Undoing and John Oliver Tonight. It only recorded the ratings for the repeat episode of The Undoing at 10pm hence why the massive drop in ratings. The 274,000 number you stated only represents the viewership of the repeat episode at 10pm and not the premiere episode at 9pm!
    A show doesn’t go from having almost 800K live viewers one week to 270K viewers the next week, clearly doesn’t make sense..

    The 3rd episode of the show actually increased 18% from episode 2 according to Variety and is becoming HBO’s biggest show of the year and is also becoming a massive hit internationally.

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    Taylor-Joy’s main advantage at SAG is that, at this point, I have to imagine she’s going to have been in what will be the most widely-seen of the nominees in the category (and certainly, most widely-seen independent of the awards process). With a voting body that huge, that counts for something.

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    Updated Nielsen ratings for The Undoing week 3 has live viewership at 899K! Very impressive, I’m sure this will only increase as it gets closer to the finale.

    Article from Deadline about the ratings in the US and overseas, seems to be breaking a few records o/s

    https://deadline.com/2020/11/the-undoing-solid-ratings-hbo-nicole-kidman-hugh-grant-1234612530/

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    Do not sleep on Michaela Coel

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    Coel finally coming to collect those US awards she should’ve gotten for Chewing Gum.

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    Why is everyone sharing the ratings data of The Undoing? GG doesn’t care about the ratings at all.

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    The increased ratings for episode three that you indicate are represented mostly by delayed viewing. This is good and fine but frankly you would expect this given that the show is three weeks into its run now and people have had extra time to catch up on the first two episodes. But the reason HBO has made sure to detail the press release in this way is to make it look like more of a hit than it is by hiding the fact that the show’s live ratings are collapsing. This is not a good sign as, although they are of decreased importance in the modern era, live ratings still indicate the level of urgency that the audience has to view the content. If more people choose to watch at a later time, it is a likely indicator that the level of passion or immediate interest in the show is waning. It is worth noting that Lovecraft Country maintained stable live ratings across its run.

    (I’d like to add that I am enjoying The Undoing so am not hating on the show, merely providing a more measured perspective on the idea that it is a bonafide audience smash)

    LOL!

    Live ratings for The Undoing are massive. They aren’t collapsing. They have increased each episode by around 18%. It’s a huge hit everywhere (US and overseas), by any measurable standard.

    You need to be careful about getting false or inaccurate information and disseminating it as if it were fact (the low-ish live numbers you got were for a re-run of the 2nd episode). Check and double check your sources.

    So now that we know The Undoing is a big fat popular hit, can we stop playing down it’s chances? For General Audience buzz right now, it’s competitive with The Queen’s Gambit, with the added advantage of having superstar leads (Kidman, Grant) as opposed to a promising newcomer (Taylor-Joy).

    For me, the upcoming Best Actress in limited series at the Globes and SAG is a straight shoot-out between Taylor-Joy and Kidman. I don’t think anyone else will be as competitive as those two, because their shows are so new and performing so well. Maybe I’m wrong and someone like Haas surges, but that’s what it feels like to me right now anyway. Also Kidman may have a slight advantadge at SAG as she’s a vet.

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    Taylor-Joy’s main advantage at SAG is that, at this point, I have to imagine she’s going to have been in what will be the most widely-seen of the nominees in the category (and certainly, most widely-seen independent of the awards process). With a voting body that huge, that counts for something.

    Taylor-Joy won’t have that advantage against Kidman at SAG. People are watching and enjoying The Undoing in significant numbers. Kidman is also obviously much more respected among SAG voters than Taylor-Joy.

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    Globes: Taylor-Joy and the spoiler for me is Michaela Coel and not Nicole Kidman
    SAG: Kidman or Blanchett, or if they are to break free of the old let’s award veterans always, they will be with Anya.

    Also, The Undoing is the weakest contender out there in terms of the show itself, yes it has momentum, but it’s not better than even Unorthodox that was released two lifetimes ago, so yeah.

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    Why is everyone sharing the ratings data of The Undoing? GG doesn’t care about the ratings at all.

    They do run to shows that are massive international hits which <i>The Undoing </i>is.

    Anyway it’s not the ratings as to why I’m confused why people think The Undoing will be snubbed it’s the fact that The Undoing is HBO’s most high profile show of the year (probably of the Emmy season) and is more memorable than both Perry Mason and Lovecraft Country (the latter of which I loved). I May Destroy You is a better show than The Undoing of course but if you’re not predicting one of them you should be predicting the other because HBO is not going to go from Emmy domination to Globe flopping.

    For me, the upcoming Best Actress in limited series at the Globes and SAG is a straight shoot-out between Taylor-Joy and Kidman.

    I think people are underestimating the show but I have to disagree. The Globe is between Coel and Taylor-Joy (with Blanchett as the spoiler) but SAG is Blanchett and Kidman (Coel won’t get nominated) with Taylor-Joy as the spoiler.

    I do think Grant could very well win Actor at both though.

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if any of Haas, Blanchett, Coel, Joy or even Jones wins.

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    I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if any of Haas, Blanchett, Coel, Joy or even Jones wins.

    Imagine if Meryl comes out of nowhere and takes it…

    FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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