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    I have Bledel at #1, but I think the fact that a lot of the buzz coming from her performance was “Wow Alexis Bledel is finally a good actress” is something that will hurt her.

    I completely agree. I have been wondering if she is the Sylvester Stallone or Eddie Murphy of the Emmys. Remember how Murphy lost because of Norbit. And Stallone probably lost because he didn’t have artistic respect. Almost Every time I hear praise from Bledel it’s followed by “which is surprising because I’ve seen her be terrible in a lot of stuff”.

    I agree too. I loved Gilmore Girls but her acting wasn’t the best. If I was voting, it would be very hard for me to check her name because I don’t think this actress, at this point in her career, deserves an Emmy.

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    Welll…most people don’t know Bledel much beyond Gilmore Girls, so they don’t associate her with terrible-ness.

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    Welll…most people don’t know Bledel much beyond Gilmore Girls, so they don’t associate her with terrible-ness.

    A lot of people disliked her from Mad Men.

    Don’t remind me.

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    Character Actress Ann Dowd (playing a menacing villain like this category’s winner for the past 2 years Margo Martindale) has already won this category. Why is this thread even open? LOL

    I’m sorry but I just don’t see how Dowd wins this category when many voters can and will vote for Bledel over her. She isn’t getting any votes for the Leftovers because no one in the Academy has ever watched that show. And when you have Cicely Tyson in the same category, you can’t even give Dowd the ‘veteran/character actress’ tag.

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    Quick question – how much will the ban on Transgenders from serving in the Military being imposed by Trump help Cox?

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    I know I’m repeating what people have said, but Cox could definitely happen more as a message to Trump from Hollywood than anything – we already saw something similar happen this year at the Oscars when the Salesman suddenly rose up the predictions and ultimately won following the Muslim ban controversy. Even Moonlight winning felt like it had a lot to do with politics (not related to one specific issue like the Salesman, it just felt like the kind of movie Trump and his supporters would hate). So there’s precedent I suppose.

    It would sort of be a shame though, given how fantastic Bledel was in all of her episodes of Handmaid’s Tale. not just her submission.

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    We havent seen a nonMartindale winner in this category under the new system. Based on the past two winners, Ann Dowd will certainly be our winner. A veteran character actress recently discovered by the Emmys on a beloved show that the media considers the biggest snub of the year. If the voters pay any attention to how their nominations were received by the media, they would have heard how snubbed the media considered the leftovers. Last year Burstyn and Metcalf couldn’t win with far better buzzier performances by tv legends. Tyson seems like to be much like Metcalf and Burstyn: name checked to a nomination but not enough to win.

    However we haven’t been under this new system long enough to really make a blanket statement about the types of winners that could be awarded here. So everything I’m saying could be wrong.

    Could Cox win as a political statement? We see with Baldwin being nominated that they are not afraid to make those.

    The handmaids tale overperformed. Could Bledel capitalize on that?

    Former series regulars have been nominated in guest left and wright this year and last year. Wright has had kinda a breakout couple of years and her nomination this year tells me she was close to a nomination last year. Why would Dowd be the former series regular that wins for an ignored show whereas Wright’s show has been more embraced?

    If Martindale won two of these for a nothing performance, why couldn’t purser? She’s an internet sensation and the only nominee in her category on a show that could potentially sweep.

    Tyson has 4 nominations since she last one in 1994. Time for another?

    This is the only category where I can see any of the nominees winning. I will predict Dowd based on the last two years but may change that since I feel I can count anyone out.

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    I strongly agree with hats-off.  Margo Martindale did not win because of the veteran vote because that sooner would have awarded Ellen Burstyn, as well as Kathy Bates and Jean Smart over Regina King.  A past Oscar nominee and three-time Emmy winner, Cicely Tyson is the veteran of the category this year and that is not what the Emmys are looking for.  It is irrelevant that Martindale lost for the first two seasons of The Americans because tapes were in play.  Dowd breaking through with a pair of nominations proves that the academy is really here now to recognize her career, especially when one of those nominations came at the expense of Martindale and neither would have deserved the supporting slot.

    It comes down to Dowd and Alexis Bledel for me.  Bledel seems too young to win a guest Emmy (Martindale, Hank Azaria, Peter Scolari, Reg E. Cathey, Bradley Whitford), but I am thrown by how well The Handmaid’s Tale did in nominations, even with the acting branch that nominated Dowd and Samira Wiley over more deserving work by Winona Ryder and others.  Everyone who saw The Handmaid’s Tale loved Bledel and apparently everyone in the academy saw The Handmaid’s Tale, so she could be far ahead of the pack.

    I have Cicely Tyson in third just because life expectancy is increasingly behind her (yay for a fellow vegetarian).  I will move her down to sixth if she is still healthy when voting closes on August 28th.

    Even when Game of Thrones swept the last two years, it could not win for Diana Rigg (against coffee drinking) or Max Von Sydow (against vote-splitting).  Veep also could not win for Martin Mull (against vote-splitting as a first-time-nominated character actor).  So Shannon Purser should be able to lose even with a Stranger Things “sweep”.  Having said that, neither Game of Thrones nor Veep has ever won SAG Ensemble, nor have their nominated guest performances had the rooting factor of Barb, so I cannot entirely count her out.

    I do not see Laverne Cox as much of a factor.  Credit to AayaanUpadhyaya though for calling the improbable Orange is the New Black resurgence.

    Alison Wright was the weak link on Feud and she did nothing on The Americans this year, but hey, this category went to a nothing performance on The Americans both years of the popular vote, by consensus and plurality, so she could take it.

    We know that Bledel will be in supporting next year; are we all predicting her to be nominated?  Because Dowd, Wright and Cox were all snubbed for their nominated performances when they were in supporting and Tyson was snubbed last year in guest.  So if you are sure that Bledel will make the jump, then it is kind of quantifiable that hers is the favourite performance of the nominees.

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    I don’t think I could see Bledel getting in supporting, but we’ll just have to see next season first. If she wins this year, her chances will be much better.

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