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    Girls had a resurgence, final season bump, most people prefer him over Ahmed. And he was really, really good

    True, as you said originally, Rhys would be a deserving winner. I think Ahmed seems quite competitive in his other category whereas Drama Actor is tougher to call, so maybe that will help Rhys too. I’d love to see him win something and this might be his best chance given the Americans’ trajectory at the Emmys has been so erratic.

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    @Soccer Mom LOL The actors branch probably hates The Americans more than I do! My personal opinions of the show have NOTHING to do with me simply stating the obvious: THEY DO NOT WATCH THE SHOW, AND ONLY NOMINATE THE LEADS SO CRITICS/FANBOYS WILL STOP SCREAMING AT THEM ABOUT THEIR “SNUBS.”

    You don’t think Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell are name-checks to please crazed “critics” fans/STANS?! Please, they were bigger name-checks than Ty Burrell or Mandy Patinkin this year, and I assure you that is no exaggeration. I don’t think they watch Modern Family or Homeland anymore, but there was clearly a time when they did. The Americans? The writers branch watches it, as evidenced by the season 3 nomination of the shows best-received episode (that season, at least) “Do Mail Robots Dream of Electric Sheep?”

    If Margo Martindale winning 2 Emmys for performances which combined, she is in less than 5 minutes, and spends the entirety of her performance just sitting and talking with Frank Langella’s character. Her first win you could make the excuse it was because they might have felt they owed her one for the first season where she gave an actual performance from actual material she was given. Her second win however, for a 65-word, 96-second long C.A.M.E.O. PROVES to me and every sane fan of The Americans, that she didn’t win because Emmy voters felt they owed her one for the first season. She won both because she was Margo Martindale, they LOVE Margo Martindale, and the Emmys’ actors branch couldn’t give less of a genuine shit about The Americans if they tried. I don’t expect most Emmy voters to actually watch the episodes in Drama Guest Actress this year, as they obviously didn’t the past 2 years, and that is the biggest reason I am predicting Ann Dowd to win on a name-check alone. At least this time the name-check will be for an actually deserving performance. 😐

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    I need to stop predicting Mendelsohn/Bledel because that split does not make a lot of sense. Mendelsohn/Dowd or McRaney/Bledel would be consistent. At least these categories will not hurt my main predictions score anymore.

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    the actors branch isn’t watching The Americans

    The Americans is still way ahead of the Leftovers as far as the Emmys recognition is concerned. Margo winning could just be the Academy catching up to the Americans (watching season 1 and 2) and voting for her. They nominated, Rhys, Russel and Wright.

    There is no reason to believe that the Academy will want to catch up and watch the Leftovers, especially since the show is over now.

    Plus, Dowd clearly isn’t winning for The Handmaid’s Tale,

    No she’s not. But she will definitely be getting votes for that performance, and many of those votes will come from those who choose to reward her in Supporting for a performance they saw instead of rewarding her in Guest for a performance they didn’t see.

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    THEY DO NOT WATCH THE SHOW, AND ONLY NOMINATE THE LEADS SO CRITICS/FANBOYS WILL STOP SCREAMING AT THEM ABOUT THEIR “SNUBS.”

    And yet they didn’t nominate Coon and Theroux to stop the critics/fanboys from screaming.

    I am sorry but the Academy has NEVER cared for the critics/fanboys ever. If they did, they would have overcome their CW bias to nominate Rodiriguez and/or Boom. They would have nominated Eva Green, Michael McKean, nominated Community for something and nominated Nick Offerman for Parks and Rec.

    If they are nominating Rhys and Russel, it’s because they finally started catching up to the show. Stop comparing it to the Leftovers, they may barely care about The Americans, but that’s still A LOT more than what they care about the Leftovers.

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    At least these categories will not hurt my main predictions score anymore.

    Exactly! That is what has made me go out on a limb to predict Cox and take that risk.

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    @Teridax dude, you do talk a lot for someone who doesn’t have a shred of proof to anything they are saying. Lmao

    No matter how many capitalized words you use, it doesn’t make it any more true (or at least doesn’t make me buy it any more).

    This whole “nominating the actors so the stans/critics will shut up” is ludicrous, especially in a year when other shows and actors (i.e The Leftovers, Carrie Coon, Justin Theroux) were much more praised/staned over. If we go back to the early 2000s, when I started following these things, we will find many other exemples of critically acclaimed, staned over shows and actors (much more so than the Americans ever was) that were never nominated.

    To me, an argument that makes much more sense is: they don’t particularly care for the show, but find the acting worthy of recognition, so they nominated the actors.

    (also I just love how you say Samira Wiley was so deserving of her Supporting Actress nomination even when she was barely on her show. Yet Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell had nothing to do on their show this season, so they don’t deserve to be nominated. No matter how they were at what they were given. Careful your bias is showing. Don’t try to sell your bias as the Academy’s).

    But that’s all I’m going to talk about here, since this obviously not the place for this particular subject.

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    @Teridax dude, you do talk a lot for someone who doesn’t have a shred of proof to anything they are saying. Lmao

    No matter how many capitalized words you use, it doesn’t make it any more true (or at least doesn’t make me buy it any more).

    This whole “nominating the actors so the stans/critics will shut up” is ludicrous, especially in a year when other shows and actors (i.e The Leftovers, Carrie Coon, Justin Theroux) were much more praised/staned over. If we go back to the early 2000s, when I started following these things, we will find many other exemples of critically acclaimed, staned over shows and actors (much more so than the Americans ever was) that were never nominated.

    To me, an argument that makes much more sense is: they don’t particularly care for the show, but find the acting worthy of recognition, so they nominated the actors.

    (also I just love how you say Samira Wiley was so deserving of her Supporting Actress nomination even when she was barely on her show. Yet Matthew Rhys and Keri Russell had nothing to do on their show this season, so they don’t deserve to be nominated. No matter how they were at what they were given. Careful your bias is showing. Don’t try to sell your bias as the Academy’s).

    But that’s all I’m going to talk about here, since this obviously not the place for this particular subject.

    1. I already proved it with Margo’s 2 Emmy-winning cameos in a row.

    2. The Leftovers stanning NEVER got close to the stanning from critics alone that The Americans received, with people actually seriously saying that the Drama Series snub of the latter last year would be the end of the Emmys, period. It never got that insane with the Leftovers hype.

    3. Samira Wiley had a meaty supporting role in her season. Don’t try to compare her actual layered performance to Margo Martindale’s nothing cameos.

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