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  • Icky
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    There’s no reason to act scared. I’ve definitely said some things that have put me in the dog house with some posters. As long as you’re not an unabashed a-hole and come with real insight no one should get caught in their feelings.

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    HollywoodNews.com on The Tale: “Had it been a theatrical release, The Tale could have definitely been an Academy Award player. A campaign centered on Best Picture, Best Director (for Fox), Best Actress (for Dern), Best Supporting Actor (for Common and Ritter), Best Supporting Actress (for Burstyn, Debicki, and/or Nélisse), Best Original Screenplay (also for Fox), and Best Film Editing, could have made waves. In fact, one could argue that Dern would be the early Oscar frontrunner in Actress.”
    LMAO

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    HollywoodNews.com on The Tale: “Had it been a theatrical release, The Tale could have definitely been an Academy Award player. A campaign centered on Best Picture, Best Director (for Fox), Best Actress (for Dern), Best Supporting Actor (for Common and Ritter), Best Supporting Actress (for Burstyn, Debicki, and/or Nélisse), Best Original Screenplay (also for Fox), and Best Film Editing, could have made waves. In fact, one could argue that Dern would be the early Oscar frontrunner in Actress.” LMAO

    I want his drugs!

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    Gabriel
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    Despite the controversial content, I definitely think Dern would have been nominated. She’s had a lot of re-appraisal lately and people like her now. Yes, it’s understated acting, but she does have at least two powerful “Oscar clips” and it does have an emotional punch at the end. People have gotten nominated for even more understated work before (like Charlotte Rampling, for example, which is a similar kind of performance in that it is understated until an powerful cathartic facial reaction at the end). But as for her winning, it’s impossible to say unless we know what the competition would be like. A weak year and her new beloved status, plus overdueness could have gotten her far.

    As for anyone else in the film being nominated? No. Especially not Common. LOL.

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    This is really what The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks should have been.  The only hokey part of this was the score.  There were also hints of Stories We Tell, except this actually resonated.  It was difficult to watch in the best way and a lot of that was not necessarily Laura Dern or even Isabelle Nélisse, but just my ingrained morality being triggered by this moving story tale.

    I doubt that Elizabeth Debicki gets nominated for this scale of material.  She was not even billed ahead of Nélisse; the communications intern who uploaded the “The Tale (2018) Teaser ft. Laura Dern & Elizabeth Debicki | HBO” video to YouTube must have been pushing a personal agenda.  So great to see an actual thirteen-year-old play thirteen.  Nobody ever knows how small kids are because the kids on television are actually adults and that becomes dangerous in big discussions like these about abuse.  I love the observation in the film about how we always think in the moment that we are older than we are.

    It was not that innovative, but there was a lot of flashback intercutting, so an editing nomination is likely in the cards.  Jason Ritter and Ellen Burstyn can go either way.  Burstyn does her usual Burstyn shtick, giving tough love and also crying—and randomly playing the accordion at one point, just so that she checks another box as an Emmy contender.  But not every HBO movie is The Normal Heart when it comes to nominations.  Emmy favourite Hank Azaria missed for The Wizard of Lies last year, despite a slimy character and a big speech in the middle of the movie.  Even a properly-acclaimed movie like Behind the Candelabra missed for a physically-transformed Rob Lowe.  From the comments here, I expected Common to be bad, but he was fine in his limited part, just obviously not a theoretical Oscar contender, per whatever HollywoodNews.com is.

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    In my mind, there is no way that Dern is losing Actress, especially with a performance like this. What a powerhouse. I would 100% also support a win for Writing for a screenplay that has an amazing degree of difficulty – not letting any part of this story become a cliché and probing the nature of trauma and truth.

    The decline of TV movies (imo) the past couple of years has made me think that the category should be reabsorbed into Limited Series, but films like this show just how vital it is for the categories to be separate, so I don’t know what my opinion is on that question anymore.

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    I doubt that Elizabeth Debicki gets nominated for this scale of material. She was not even billed ahead of Nélisse; the communications intern who uploaded the “The Tale (2018) Teaser ft. Laura Dern & Elizabeth Debicki | HBO” video to YouTube must have been pushing a personal agenda. So great to see an actual thirteen-year-old play thirteen. Nobody ever knows how small kids are because the kids on television are actually adults and that becomes dangerous in big discussions like these about abuse. I love the observation in the film about how we always think in the moment that we are older than we are.

    I feel like the trailer on YouTube included Debciki’s name because she is a younger actress who might get more clicks. I was also pleasantly surprised by the fact that Nelisse rightfully got second billing. IMO it’s fraud for her to be in supporting, because she and Dern share the film together and are co-leads, as confirmed by that beautiful final shot of them in the bathroom.

    Thoughts on Dern’s performance? You still think she is a lock for Lead Actress? She’s rising in the predictions center, but still some updated predictions by experts seem to be resistant.

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    Isabelle Nélisse is the real star of The Tale.

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    Isabelle Nélisse is the real star of The Tale.

    Agreed, thanks for stating the obvious. She was also the best performer in the film IMO, she even impressed me more than Laura Dern the more the movie resonates with me.

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    Does anyone think Frances Conroy would have been a nominee if submitted?

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    No, but on a somewhat related note, I would not consider Ellen Burstyn’s character if played to the same level by an actress of a different name.

    I would be happy with Laura Dern winning.  I declared her a lock a while back and lock status is not generally something that I think that you can lose once you gain it.  I am fine with Isabelle Nélisse in supporting.  She was in half of the film at most.

    Metacritic has been slacking with this one.  They still have it classified as a theatrical release instead of a television program and they only added four reviews from television critics on top of the twelve from Sundance. This really felt like a movie made for television, with its insular narrative of someone on a personal journey.

    How about that slow-motion running shot of Jason Ritter in his shorts?  Oh, the seventies.

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    Did anyone else find this really underwhelming? Obviously Dern was great (although I was expecting dynamite) but I thought, given the reviews, that this would be a cut above the rest of the leading HBO films of the last few years and really wasn’t. The cast was good but tbh I found ‘Confirmation’ more riveting and that was basic af.

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    I thought this was incredible. Nelisse is indeed MVP but Dern’s in career-best form too and I was surprised at how much Burstyn actually got to do.

    THE OSCAR 100 (#60-56): Brenda Blethyn, Olivia de Havilland, Dorothy Malone, Geraldine Page and Thelma Ritter

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    forwardswill
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    I thought Nelisse was really not good. That scene in front of the mirror was laughable. Then again, I’m rarely fond of child actors so it wasn’t surprising that I thought this.

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    I thought Nelisse was really not good. That scene in front of the mirror was laughable. Then again, I’m rarely fond of child actors so it wasn’t surprising that I thought this.

    I feel like this site lauds child actors way too much for whatever reason. I thought she was adequate but not some sort of revelation.

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