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  • Bebe
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    I watched the premiere, and I’m not sure if I liked it or didn’t. The “American Beauty” comparisons rang true, right down to Spacey/Bening roles with Robbins/Hunter. I really wanted to love Holly Hunter here, and she was good (the silent mirror scene, in particular) but I couldn’t stand her accent/dialect.

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    Haven’t watched it yet, but along with the sub-par reviews, the same-day ratings came in very low.   So, prospects of a second season are probably in jeopardy right now.

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    Alienware
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    The pilot was mediocre.
    It’s not True Blood bad because the show is very different, but it feels like a Six Feet Under on steroids, which is not a very good combo. At all.

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    Surprised how trashed this show is getting considering the pedigree. I don’t see it as an Emmy player at all at this point.

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    Riley
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    They should have burned this one off instead of Mosaic.

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    I didn’t love or hate it. I think there is potential but it’s not gonna shine through until 6-7 episodes in when people are invested in the characters. The show lacks a hook so it’s only shot at being any good is creating believable, relatable, interesting characters. They didn’t fuck any of them up yet so that is a positive. But this was pretty forgettable too.

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    This is all I have to say about this show…

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    Alienware
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    I didn’t love or hate it. I think there is potential but it’s not gonna shine through until 6-7 episodes in when people are invested in the characters. The show lacks a hook so it’s only shot at being any good is creating believable, relatable, interesting characters. They didn’t fuck any of them up yet so that is a positive. But this was pretty forgettable too.

    I agree with the first part but I think that the characters are already pretty much fucked, I mean is any of them really relatable? I hate all of them. Even Ramon (which I tolerated during the Pilot) after episode 102.

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    I think it’s too early to tell. I certainly don’t hate any of them yet, though. I’m just completely unimpressed by them so far as well. The scene at the abortion clinic was hard to stomach.

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    Still on the edge about this series. Just finished Episode 5 and Holly Hunter gave an excellent (near knockout) performance that would be a great episode submission in supporting…because she doesn’t merit lead screentime thus far.

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    My adoration of Holly Hunter is being soundly tested.

    I thought I would have to throw in the towel when a sleepy Tim Robbins wandered twenty feet into the woods and took a nap only to wake up to see a big buck take an astonishingly large shit in front of him.

    Happily, I endured for Hunter. I was rewarded with her marital strife-driven confrontation with her husband. She was magnificent with some fairly dumb ass dialogue.

    The show is bad, bad, bad. And yet, like the car accident on the freeway, I am slowing down unable to tear my eyes away.

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    Has HBO pulled the plug on this mess yet? Sunday night featured a main character yelping on the toilet while enduring an intense colitis attack as well as gratuitous, full frontal male nudity.

    Sometimes it’s challenging to be a Holly Hunter fan. Maybe next week I’ll just watch The Big Sick again and bitch some more about she got robbed at the Oscars.

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    Apparently I am the sole poster on GoldDerby who has endured all ten episodes of this Alan Ball series. Having completed all ten, I can assure that the accomplishment is not something to relish.

    The acting is good. You have two Oscar winning leads and four pretty gifted young actors playing the adult children. The problem is the scripts. The story is pretentious and often infantile.

    The series has an inordinate obsession with the potty. In the last episode of the first season, the supporting character with colitis takes an explosive shit in the bathroom during foreplay. Is it me? Explosive diarrhea requires a moment and most definitely a shower to recapture the mood.

    The script has collected a family of self loathing people. When the adopted Asian son (who was moved to the US at the age of five from the shack of his 14 year old prostitute mother) discovers his adoptive father’s extended employment of an Asian prostitute, the son assumes that his father’s actions are repressed anger toward him. This results into a seasoned debate of “fuck you” and that empty rejoinder “No. Fuck you.”

    Finally, the first season concludes with a natural disaster that inconveniences the family members though none are in direct peril.

    I will be surprised if HBO renews the series. It’s first episode had a little over half a million viewers. By the second week, the desirable 18-49 demographic was reduced by half. Viewership dropped 200,000 and remained there for the remaining nine episodes. I know HBO like prestige programs but this just isn’t one.

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    Vinyl (spring 2016): 0.66 million, 0.22 rating
    The Leftovers (spring 2017): 0.86 million, 0.35 rating
    Here and Now (spring 2018): 0.38 million, 0.11 rating

    But sure, the ratings for The Leftovers were so bad that HBO had to wait until after its second season finished airing to renew it and even then only brought it back for a truncated final season with fewer episodes than either Vinyl or Here and Now. This is not to mention the goodwill in the press for The Leftovers and the utter opposite for these other two, which has to be worth something for a network with a brand built entirely on prestige.

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