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    “Outlaws”: So much of this episode was a mess, mostly due to the constant to-ing and fro-ing over whom it was going to focus on. Again though, still very very enjoyable. The big take-away though is the absolutely astounding performances from Jim Parsons and Joe Mantello. The former especially should be outfront to win the Emmy even if I imagine so much of this forum is going to hate his performance because it dares to be big even though it is so brilliantly precise. Mantello, I imagine, will be more of a favourite and he brings a crucial grounding to the series. His scene with Picking (also great in this episode) was the highlight. Elsewhere, Corenswet remains a mess although his scene with Parsons was well acted (I wonder why). Criss was good but his storyline is boring and not helped by its intersection with the bland Harrier. Weaving continues to be the worst appealing aspect I’m devastated to see her get her own scenes this week. The more we see of the character, the more I cannot fathom why Murphy didn’t pick up the phone to Emma Roberts who would have nailed this role. Pope continues to be strong and his relationship with Picking is being beautifully handled.

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    Patti LuPone MVP

    Parsons is horrible, worst from the old cast. Looks like Sheldon being a sexual predator, bad performance.

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    I agree Lupone is MVP for me so far.

    And I genuinely don’t see why Parsons is currently #1 in the combined rankings. I guess it’s a fairly barren category but he shouldn’t win for this in my opinion.

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    Smi
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    I watched the first episode and actually liked it too! I’m enjoying seeing the other cast coming in during episode 2…only about 15 minutes in so far.

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    “(Screen) Tests”: Weakest episode so far and frankly just badly written. Only scene I properly enjoyed was Rock Hudson’s line stammerings, which I felt was effectively portrayed. LuPone and Parsons were the clear acting standouts. Pope was good but lumbered with the most ham-fisted of dialogue. Also was Harrier’s screen test supposed to be good because it was utter shite. And are we supposed to be delighted that Corenswet got the part when his test was crap as well? Very mixed messages. Whilst I’m very much enjoying the show, I’m lapping it up a Gossip Girl or 90210 way to be honest. This said, I do very rarely binge anything and I’ve watched four episodes of this in one day so Murphy must be doing something right for Netflix.

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    I have seen all 7 episodes. As a huge fan of the Tinseltown, I did enjoy Ryan Murphy’s way of revisioning Hollywood. I had fun watching the show. It’s not top-tier, but it was entertaining for me and I wouldn’t mind revising that world again.

    In terms of the performances, the Emmy-worthies for me are Darren Criss, Jeremy Pope, Joe Mantello, Dylan McDermott, Patti LuPone, Jim Parsons, Rob Reiner, Mira Sorvino, and Michelle Krusiec. I thought they were all wonderful. Surely not all of them will get nominated but they are the ones that I thought would deserve some praises. As for Parsons, I think we are highly predicting him because he has a lot of Emmy-bait scenes and it is a winking devil role. We should keep predicting him in supporting actor for now.

    In terms of Emmy chances, I can see this getting into a lot of craft categories. Despite the mixed reviews, I think it could still get nominated on the main categories if the Television Academy will really love the show. It’s a show about Hollywood after all.

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    And I genuinely don’t see why Parsons is currently #1 in the combined rankings. I guess it’s a fairly barren category but he shouldn’t win for this in my opinion.

    Empty category, past Emmy favourite & pre-premiere buzz about role

    Agree about him not winning for this, especially when Criss, Mantello, McDermott & even Reiner are right there with much better performances.

    Not sure on Picking yet as still trying to determine wether he himself wasn’t good in this, he was brilliant at playing Hudson as bad or wether the badness of Hudson’s initial appearance masks his own bad performance.

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    If Parsons plays a sexual predator who gets redeemed, then I’m pretty sure he’s not winning. It would be pretty damn hypocritical of Hollywood to reward such a character.

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    Who gives the best performances to you?

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    Who gives the best performances to you?

    Not sure if you’re asking me, but since your comment came right after mine, I’m just gonna assume you have. I haven’t watched any episodes so far, so I can’t answer that.

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    I just finished all 7 episodes in one sitting. It was incredibly entertainment, very well done production wise. But the script is a mess, it is like a bad written fairy-tale, completely unrealistic, yet touching, since every fairy-tale is. On a morale point view, it also sends too many contradicting messages I would say… It os also very preaching and in the nose, very cheesy writing (I hate how all the female clients of the male prostitutes looked like top models), too much even for Murphy. Acting wise I was surprised negatively, because there were some bad acting and some huge miscasts. I will start from worst to best:


    Samara Weaving
    – I have heard many good thing about her in the movie Ready or Not, so maybe she was miscast or misdirect, but she was cringe during many scenes, her character was very hollow too.

    Laura Harrier, who is so bland, uninteresting and looked more preoccupy to look hot and pretty than to give a good performance, she was even more miscast than Weaving and that made even more unrealistic the outcome of her story-line.

    Maude Apatow – bland, boring and forgettable, she was much better in Euphoria.

    David Corenswet was a mess, he will never get nominated for that role. Very contradicting character as well, very hollow as a whole and I do not see why his character was the lead.

    Jeremy Pope – an okay performance, very repetitive, especially his monologues. He also has 0 chance for a nomination.

    Darren Criss – He was excellent as always, but he has the most boring and thankless role, he is not going to be nominated. It was a little strange seeing him pray straight man.

    Jake Picking – the huge surprise between the young actors, I cannot understand why they are not promoting him instead of the other four… He gave a tremendous performance, he was very funny, sympathetic, emotional, all his scenes with Parsons were PURE GOLD. He also had huge bonding with Pope. He could have been nominated in Lead due to the barren field, but in supporting has no chance.

    Holland Taylor – Fine performance, but nothing extraordinary. It was ridiculous how she supposedly teach all of them to be Oscar winning actors with 1 lesson of 10 minutes… Zero chance for a nomination.

    And NOW is coming the good stuff:

    Patti LuPone – A little theatrical as always, her first scenes were too much and they were so ANTI subtle and badly written, poor woman could not do a lot – “Make feel I am worth it even if it is a lie, Jack”… However, maybe in episode 3 she made the role hers and she had a lot of explosive material and strong moments, it is the only female in the cast that actually shines, so she has a shot, but I do consider all the supporting players from Mrs. America superior than her (maybe with the exception of Martindale). Jean Smart is also better than her.

    Dylan McDermott – tremendous performance, he made an absurd and vulgar character very sympathetic, he disappeared completely in the role and had chemistry with everybody. He has a small shot.

    Joe Mantello and Jim Parsons – they were incredible together in The Normal Heart and they are incredible once again here, their shared scenes are PURE GOLD. They both disappeared. The voice of Parsons is not distracting at all and he is the perfectly cast, he manages to make us fall for a monster, only a very likable actor would have been able to do so, he becomes this character and his dialogues, monologues and one-liners (obviously written by Ian Brennan) are exquisite. His last line to McDermott’s character had me rolling. Both are the MVP of the show and both are locks for nominations, I am not sure for winning though and I do not see how someone would be able to choose.

    Summary: Very entertaining, but hallow. Perfect and moving intentions and main message, but many others horrible messages (the main being that all the young actors succeed based on looks, connections and luck, not based on hard work and real talent). Beautiful to look at, but very unrealistic. It has the weakest female lead in modern TV history in the face of Harrier, but 3 outstanding performances by Parsons, McDermott and Mantello. It might be nominated for Limited series and Directing, but it can be perfectly snubbed too. Writing is out of the question, it is almost as bad as dialogues and the backstory reveal of Caleb in Westworld’s last episode. I would give it 7 out of 10 as a whole, but I am being generous.

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    I think Parsons and McDermott are the best shot in supporting actor….and LuPone in supporting actress.

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    I think Parsons and McDermott are the best shot in supporting actor….and LuPone in supporting actress.

    It’s interesting. Parsons seems to be getting the most attention right now, but while most people seem to think he’s great, he’s got his detractors. Then McDermott and Mantello have both received strong notices as well, so all three could be in play. Originally it seemed like Taylor was going to be the big player for the actresses, but LuPone has definitely emerged as the favorite there.

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    I watched two episodes and so far it’s alright. Very campy, David Corenswet isn’t the best actor and his performance is pretty weak, and keeps taking me out of the show. The writing doesn’t help either. I’ll finish the show, but so far, none of the performances are Emmy-worthy, especially in a year with much much better performances competing for spots.

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    Just finished watching this series last night and I must say, it’s good, but it’s not emmy-worthy. I think I liked it because of the fact that success stories are my guilty pleasure. The writing was bland (so as other Ryan Murphy miniseries aside from AHS: Murder House, Asylum and ACS: PvsOJS) and the performance of the young actors were lackluster. All of them sucked and definitely need intense acting classes especially Maude Apatow and Jake Picking. Ironically, the only good time where their performances were acceptable was when they were trying to perform bad acting in screen tests. They were unbearable. Thankfully, the senior actors saved their asses and if there’s anyone really worthy of  Emmy nomination it’s Joe Mantello for his nuanced work as producer Dick Samuels.

    Definitely Joe Mantello. He knocks it out of the park both in stronger, showy scenes and quiter moments. He need an emmy nom for sure.

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