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  • PerksofBeingGriff
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    Fuck that guy. Never will watch a Spacey project again. Glad I stopped watching after season 4.

    “Someone is staring at you in ‘Personal Growth’.”

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    Teridax
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    I probably shouldn’t have said “worse”. However, Spacey’s behavior has been persistent for decades. I’ve heard that he as well participates in these “parties”. That he’s threatened physical harm to men (in the 90’s) who have tried to out him. That he has threatened to have people pulled from their work if they didn’t give up some ass and of course some were underage. That he has physically assaulted other individuals. Now, he merely pays people off. Gus Van Sant is rarely a name mentioned in these things. But he’s another one. Though who knows how extensive it is with him.

    Also, Singer identities as bi now (he changed up his identity when the last line of allegations came and when he decided to marry a woman to have a baby). And Spacey isn’t gay, honey. According to him he has merely “chosen to live as a gay man”.

    Where have you heard all these things exactly? Reliable sources?

    Damn, I will never be able to watch House of Cards again. I loved Kevin Spacey as Frank Underwood because I thought that he was actually giving a transformative performance: a cool and decent human being playing a monster. Now, whenever I look at Frank Underwood, all that I will be able to see is Spacey merely playing Spacey, just an evil monster simply playing an evil monster.

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    Jeffrey Kare
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    The personal life of a celebrity is never going to change how I feel about them as a performer. So therefore, I will continue to watch any worthy project Kevin Spacey takes on because of his skills as an actor, not as a human being.

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    eastwest
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    This is something else. I have always been able to separate an artist and their art. And as a former fan of Kevin, I did that knowing all of the terrible things he and his “It’s A Preference” line sisters have allegedly done over the years. I probably would’ve had some sort of compassion for him if he apologized and owned what he did, but for him to finally come out in such a way is unforgivable and reckless. I hate the term community b/c it’s romanticized thing to make marginalized groups feel like they have a unique bond when it’s  the same problematic bullshit that we are subjected to by our oppressors, but that is a whole other thing.

    As for the show, this past season was ass so it makes sense that it’s coming to an end. Sucks that it’s legacy as a groundbreaking show is tainted by it’s leading man, but again it goes back to this open secret shit that this industry has to come to terms with. As long as you help the bottom line, your shady shit will not be acknowledge. I hate and love the Twitter age we are in that young people are not putting up with the nonsense anymore and that’s good.

    For awards, he’s never getting that Emmy. I hollered when I saw the news that his honorary Emmy is gone. I think they’ll still give Robin and Michael their final nods as a “sorry y’all are swept up in this” and of course their continued solid performances.

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    I’ve invested too much time in “House of Cards” already to not see the story finished. But yeah, I’m not remotely here for future Kevin Spacey projects, not that I ever was. Good luck promoting “All the Money in the World” now. Sad for all the people involved in that project. It’s the same way all the people behind “The Birth of a Nation” must have felt like. Also, I think Michael Kelly could totally headline a spinoff series, though his character has already hit most of his beats already. The only one who really deserves a spinoff here is Robin Wright, duh.

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    The personal life of a celebrity is never going to change how I feel about them as a performer. So therefore, I will continue to watch any worthy project Kevin Spacey takes on because of his skills as an actor, not as a human being.

    But with House of Cards specifically you’re just watching a creepy power-abusing monster play that exact type of person. It’s not the same as watching Spacey in American Beauty where he’s playing a guy with pedophilic feelings for the underage friend of his daughteeerr… oh right, damn. Actually, f**k the legacy of that performance as well. *shudder* 🙁

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    Nitpicking:

    – Spacey was not saying that being gay is a choice; he was saying that identifying semi-publicly as such is.

    Spacey was indeed implying that his orientation is a choice by focusing on “lifestyle”. And he didn’t back it up with any particular insight. Many people, particularly narcissists and megalomaniacs (no doubt Spacey is one those) don’t like to feel as if they’re being “controlled” by anything. That’s especially the case for narcissistic people who aren’t absolutely and thoroughly 100% straight or gay and/or people have been closeted for a while. So, they imply choice. However, if your attractions, desires, passions and romantic satisfaction all lean greatly towards a particular direction that’s the direction you’ll likely eventually live your life unless you contend with self-hate, contend with religious guilt, want to maintain a certain public and social image, are simply batsh*t crazy or only want to get it on with people who are younger than 20.

    I have a friend who’s a former agent who has squealed about quite a few people. Beyond that, I have no “reputable sources”, just endless blind items and second and third hand accounts that’s been building for many years when it comes to Spacey. It was the same thing with Weinstien. And I’ll say this, for these 40+ year old famous and rich guys who have been out of the closet or semi out for many years yet have never had a legit bf or husband- the likelihood of them being creepers and/or being obsessed with hooking up with “straight guys” is very high. These are the reasons, beyond all the closet cases and fake hetero relationships, that I often look at how the industry presents homosexuality and queerness with a side-eye.

    I stopped watching HoC mid third season binge and have only seen some submitted episodes since. So, I have internal conflict as far as watching the final episodes. I am thankful Spacey’s predatory ways are finally being exposed. It won’t lead to him being jailed. But at the very least it’ll rub that smug grin off his face.

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    I just took Spacey out of my SAG predictions but still have Robin Wright making the cut. I replaced him with Milo Ventimiglia for This Is Us, I think he will get in on the coattails of his Emmy-winning co-star Sterling K. Brown, who I am predicting to win. I just checked my predictions for the Globes, SAG, and the Oscars and I’m already not predicting Spacey anywhere for All The Money In The World.

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    Nitpicking:

    – Spacey was not saying that being gay is a choice; he was saying that identifying semi-publicly as such is.

    Spacey was indeed implying that his orientation is a choice by focusing on “lifestyle”. And he didn’t back it up with any particular insight. Many people, particularly narcissists and megalomaniacs (no doubt Spacey is one those) don’t like to feel as if they’re being “controlled” by anything. That’s especially the case for narcissistic people who aren’t absolutely and thoroughly 100% straight or gay and/or people have been closeted for a while. So, they imply “choice”. However, if your attractions, desires, passions and romantic satisfaction all lean greatly towards a particular direction that’s the direction you’ll likely eventually live your life unless you contend with self-hate, contend with religious guilt, want to maintain a certain public and social image, are simply batsh*t crazy/have a shit ton of mental and sexual issues or you only want to get it on with people who are younger than 20.

    I have a friend who’s a former agent who has squealed about quite a few people. Beyond that, I have no “reputable sources”, just endless blind items and second and third hand accounts that’s been building for many years when it comes to Spacey. It was the same thing with Weinstien. And I’ll say this, for these 40+ year old famous and rich guys who have been out of the closet or semi out for many years yet have never had a legit bf or husband- the likelihood of them being creepers and/or being obsessed with hooking up with “straight guys” is very high. These are the reasons, beyond all the closet cases and fake hetero relationships, that I often look at how the industry presents homosexuality and queerness with a side-eye.

    I stopped watching HoC mid third season binge and have only seen some submitted episodes since. So, I have internal conflict as far as watching the final episodes. I am thankful Spacey’s predatory ways are finally being exposed. It won’t lead to him being jailed. But at the very least it’ll rub that smug grin off his face.

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    I just took Spacey out of my SAG predictions but still have Robin Wright making the cut. I replaced him with Milo Ventimiglia for This Is Us, I think he will get in on the coattails of his Emmy-winning co-star Sterling K. Brown, who I am predicting to win. I just checked my predictions for the Globes, SAG, and the Oscars and I’m already not predicting Spacey anywhere for All The Money In The World.

    Did he have any Oscars hype with All The Money In The World before the scandal? Are there any reviews about his performance or about the movie yet?

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    Jeffrey Kare
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    Yeah, there’s barely been any buzz for All the Money in the World.

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    The personal life of a celebrity is never going to change how I feel about them as a performer. So therefore, I will continue to watch any worthy project Kevin Spacey takes on because of his skills as an actor, not as a human being.

    But with House of Cards specifically you’re just watching a creepy power-abusing monster play that exact type of person. It’s not the same as watching Spacey in American Beauty where he’s playing a guy with pedophilic feelings for the underage friend of his daughteeerr… oh right, damn. Actually, f**k the legacy of that performance as well. *shudder* ????

    Are we still good with his work in The Usual Suspects?

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    Crazy… i bet they just cancel the whole thing

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    Riley
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    At this point, I would lean toward the final season still coming out because there was all of that hoopla yesterday over this being the final season when they could have just made this production shutdown announcement then. Would not be surprised by them reducing the order of episodes though. They need to get it out this Emmy cycle and just be done with it.

    I had not been predicting Spacey for All the Money in the World because I had not seen the pictures of him in makeup. I would have if I had.

    When Charlie Sheen was fired from Two and a Half Men, Jon Cryer got his first SAG nomination and survived the jump to lead at the Emmys, so I think that Wright and Kelly can hang on, but it might be out entirely from the Creative Arts.

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