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How many acting Emmys would Mad Men have won with the current voting system?

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    Most of us can agree that Ted Lasso airing its second season during the spring will more than likely bolster its chances of above the line wins due to the factor of recency.

    However it’s not the first show to pull such a trick. 3 out of 7 of Mad Men‘s seasons aired during Emmy voting (coincidentally all three of them won) back in the day. I’ve always wondered considering that show was competing under the tape system and suffered from having a “cold” acting style what could have been if it were competing under the current popular vote based system.

    Here’s the first thought that comes to mind.

    Jon Hamm, season 1

    Hamm was the popular lead when the show was more or less set to sweep after having won 3 TCA awards, 2 Golden Globes (including for Hamm himself), a DGA award, ADG award and a WGA award for best new series. It lost at SAG and lost the WGA award for drama series but it was up against the final season of The Sopranos and The Wire. With the show being much buzzier and more widely seen than Breaking Bad at the time (which was snubbed for drama series) and having recency due to its second season airing whilst voting was underway for its first, it’s likely Hamm would have pulled off a win. I guess the most comparable win here under the current system would be Jeremy Strong for Succession?

    Feel free to post below how well you guys think Mad Men‘s cast members would have done under the popular vote based system.

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    2011 would see a tough battle between Elisabeth Moss (S4 of Mad Men) and Julianna Margulies (S2 of The Good Wife). It wouldn’t have been such an easy cakewalk for Margulies as it was in 2011 under the tape system.

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    I think Christina Hendricks would have won at the some point.

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    I think Christina Hendricks would have won at the some point.

    Maybe for season 5? She won at Critics Choice that year if I’m not mistaken?

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    Maybe for season 5? She won at Critics Choice that year if I’m not mistaken?

    Yes, she did. “The Other Woman” was a fantastic showcase for her.

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    Yes, she did. “The Other Woman” was a fantastic showcase for her.

    My second favourite single episode performance on Mad Men after Moss and Hamm (joint first!) in “The Suitcase”.

    It’s absolutely criminal Hendricks never won an Emmy for Mad Men. She was win worthy for season 3, 5 and 7b (although I would have given it to Lena Headey for “Mothers Mercy” that year – the only win I would have given GoT that year over Mad Men lmao). I love The Good Wife but Panjabi was win worthy for season 2 not 1 and I love Maggie Smith but just no.

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    I think Christina Hendricks would have won at the some point.

    I do too.

    I’m old enough to have watched Mad Men every week in real time and it’s impossible to understand the press machinations of that now the internet has become so central.

    It was very, very much an era that really favoured Hendricks as a star who ended up doing the vast majority of the high profile press (magazine covers, TV interviews, etc) – she was very glamorous  on screen and off (Janie Bryant’s costumes were also quite central to discourse at times and this also mostly favoured Hendricks).

    I can’t actually remember the system Katherine Heigl won in either but it was a very similar thing with her and Oh.

     

     

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    The only loss I can see it turning into a win is Jon Hamm’s for S1. He never won SAG which complicates things for me. Not when his show was winning ensemble (and this was pre AFTRA) nor when he was coming off a buzzy Emmy win. Hence, I won’t blame his losses entirely on the tape system.

    Hamm’s actual Emmy win was very much driven by his overdue narrative imo. The voters had stopped caring about the show at that point and had clearly moved on. So there’s a possibility he might not win in 2015 if was already a winner and someone like Spacey, who was coming off a SAG win, would muster enough support to win instead.

    I don’t think there’s anyone else that would/could win. I know people think Hendricks would’ve prevailed in 2012 but Maggie Smith was winning no matter what that year and I don’t think it’d be close. That was Downton’s peak in terms of acting noms. It was just too big and as we’ve seen, a performance like Hendricks’ isn’t exactly appealing to voters in whichever system it competes in. Even other years you had people like Archie Panjabi and Anna Gunn competing in strong shows themselves.

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    I don’t think there’s anyone else that would/could win. I know people think Hendricks would’ve prevailed in 2012 but Maggie Smith was winning no matter what that year and I don’t think it’d be close. That was Downton’s peak in terms of acting noms. It was just too big and as we’ve seen, a performance like Hendricks’ isn’t exactly appealing to voters in whichever system it competes in. Even other years you had people like Archie Panjabi and Anna Gunn competing in strong shows themselves.

    I don’t think Hendricks could have won against Smith, but  I actually think (strange as it is to say now) on a popular ballot Moss might not have gotten in for 2010 (S3) and she wouldn’t have been competing against her which would have changed the dynamic of that category.

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    I actually think (strange as it is to say now) on a popular ballot Moss might not have gotten in for 2010 (S3)

    The nominations were decided by popular vote back then too.

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    The nominations were decided by popular vote back then too.

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    2011 would see a tough battle between Elisabeth Moss (S4 of Mad Men) and Julianna Margulies (S2 of The Good Wife). It wouldn’t have been such an easy cakewalk for Margulies as it was in 2011 under the tape system.

    I doubt it. The Good Wife was still incredibly popular then with the actors branch and Margulies had one of her meatiest moments on the show that season (until season 5).

    I actually think Margulies probably would have won back to back considering how she swept the winter awards season and how well The Good Wife performed in actors branch support that year.

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