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    Teaser trailer just dropped today. Premiere date of Monday, April 27th, 2020. Mark Ruffalo looks like he’s trying hard to win that Emmy. Also starring Melissa Leo, Archie Panjabi (!), Rosie O’ Donnell, Juliette Lewis, and Kathryn Hahn.

    Teaser trailer here:

    https://youtu.be/BO_4DGnmMKk

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    Looks like an Emmy winning performance from Ruffalo. And omg Archie Panjabi… still drop dead gorgeous!

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    I Know This Much is True is not a personal favourite, but it is a well-made show.  You could call it misery porn, as it is just misfortune after misfortune.  Then I looked up the book synopsis and was surprised to find some hopeful plot points that have apparently been excised.  It has similarities with Patrick Melrose, although this is less bombastic and more dour.  Patrick Melrose was annoying, but it did have a sense of humour.  Patrick Melrose also had a clearer arc.  The plot here is okay; I did not really take anything from the journey or the ending.  There is a story-within-the-story that Ruffalo reads and is depicted on screen, but like in 13 Reasons Why, instead of getting through it over an evening like a normal person, we get many scenes of Ruffalo struggling to get through it over weeks or something, angrily throwing it down, putting it on hold, giving up on it and that kind of thing.  Ruffalo might not inspire passion like recent winners, but Ruffalo is of course a three-time Oscar nominee who delivers as we obviously knew that he would with the material and unlike Benedict Cumberbatch, he is not facing a Darren Criss, not is Ruffalo facing Cumberbatch as he did for The Normal Heart.  You never see it all at once or get the full picture in the end, but you do see different parts of his package.

    I have an article publishing Thursday about the supporting actresses, but basically, none of them really warrant a nomination and Kathryn Hahn is the only one who stands a chance at riding Ruffalo’s coattails.  This is not a show in the vein of Mrs. America that shifts perspective, so she is always firmly a supporting presence in Ruffalo’s story.  Juliette Lewis is batshit crazy, but then she disappears.  Melissa Leo basically only pops up for blink-and-you-miss-it flashes of memories that are sprinkled throughout the series.  Rosie O’Donnell plays all of her material with the exact same seriousness.  Archie Panjabi barely appears outside her therapist office. John Procaccino is all over the show though as Ruffalo’s abusive stepfather.  He is so far from mustache-twirling though that he will be easy to ignore, especially with him not going far in the other direction either, like Patricia Arquette in The Act.

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    The reviews aren’t thrilling (59 on MT, 4 positives/4 mixed), but Ruffalo has being getting high praise.

    The entire supporting cast are getting good notes, especially Rosie O’Donnell and Kathryn Hahn.

    I think he wins the Emmy tho.

    Who’s gonna watch? Starts next sunday!

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    The reviews for I Know This Much is True just keep getting worse, which I find very interesting. I keep waiting for them to turn a corner and it looks like it is either not going to happen or it will be too late.  People are really not in the mood for something so miserable.  I am not really sure what I took away from the story because it was kind of just a portrait of suffering, but it is not like the story is illogical or the tone is all over the map or the performances are variably bland or problems randomly arise for the characters with no buildup only to be easily resolved.  I can see how all of those together would land a prestige May miniseries in the mid-fifties on Metacritic.  The miniseries seems to be pretty faithful to the acclaimed source material, apart from darkening the most hopeful storyline.  So that change was obviously a mistake, but I would not normally think would be enough to tank the whole thing alone.

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    Still gonna watch. This is one of the last pieces of the Emmy puzzle, so I can’t not watch at least the premiere. Unless it’s incompetently made, which no review I’ve read suggests, then it’ll at least get some form of awards attention. Maybe not all the Emmy attention, but no rational person was expecting or predicting that either. So a big whatever critics.

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    These reviews are disappointing, so I doubt it goes anywhere beyond Lead Actor, but I still think Ruffalo is winning. Big Hollywood actor playing twins in an emotional HBO show seems too good to pass up, especially in an extremely weak year for the category.

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    “Episode 1”

    Synopsis: Paranoid schizophrenic Thomas Birdsey has a violent public breakdown, and Dominick Birdsey finds himself stepping up to defend his identical twin brother in unexpected ways. As he navigates the fallout of Thomas’ actions, Dominick reflects on their childhood growing up under the tyrannical rule of their volatile stepfather, Ray, and their persistent desire to know the identity of their biological father. Series Premiere.

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    Well, I think timing is bad for this. Are people in the mood to see something so depressing at this point in time.

    Ruffalo was very good. You actually believe that it’s two people.

    I enjoyed Juliette Lewis in her small cameo.

    Melissa Leo n Kathryn Hahn didn’t have much to do in pilot

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    It’s really sad, but I kinda liked. Ruffalo is sensational.

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    Ruffalo is fantastic in this. It’s not as hammy of a performance as you would think (at least so far) given the subject matter. It’s actually very grounded and authentic. He also does a good job making each character their own, it’s very easy to distinguish the two just by their mannerisms and what not.

    Lewis was balls to the walls crazy. She looked like she was having a blast. I’m not sure whether I hated it or loved it lol.

    Hahn was amazing in her one scene, great chemistry with Ruffalo. Leo, surprisingly, didn’t have a whole lot to do considering she was dying of cancer.

    I think, so far, this is really well made. I feel like the mixed reviews are mainly due to the dark and/or upsetting subject matter.

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    Oh man, I Know This Much is True lives up to its reviews. I was on my Peloton bike when I watched this, and I looked down at my phone during two LONG scenes, thinking they were wrapping up, but then they continued on, and on, and on. It’s maybe the least focused show I’ve seen since the COVID crisis began. I admire the way the series is filmed, and Mark Ruffalo is clearly here to win some televised awards, but I’m not moved. I typically go for darker stories about broken characters, but so far, this isn’t cutting it for me.

    I also agree with Riley. I’m having trouble seeing the larger significance to the story or the project that merit its existence and indulgence.

    Twitter: @rcs818

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    What is the “value” of any art then? Or “prestige” projects? This is based off of a highly acclaimed Wally Lamb novel. It was an Oprah’s Book Club selection that she made a very big deal of at the time about mental illness. It clearly had a built-in audience, a studio with enormous pockets, and actors clamoring for work, meaty material, and awards prospects. That’s more than enough to merit the creation of this project in my view, and its tone looks to fit into the general mood of the world today anyways. It’s not misery porn solely for the sake of misery porn.

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    Good to see the show recover to 65 on Metacritic and 73% approval on Rotten Tomatoes.  It now scores much closer to Fosse/Verdon than Hollywood.  Of course it has a new problem though, as it premiered to lower ratings than The Plot Against America, which aired on a Monday in March as opposed to a Sunday in May.

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    Intense premiere. Mark Ruffalo is superb here. Thomas and Dominick are so distintive and separate characters. It’s already a marvel that I’m as instantly drawn into this story as I am, and Ruffalo is the main reason for that. Very curious to see where this story goes. Juliette Lewis really popped in this episode. I’m curious if/when her character returns. Melissa Leo didn’t have much to do, but she was effective enough. It’s gonna be a tough watch, but whatever, art is tough sometimes. The critics missed the boat, yet again.

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