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    Brayden Fitzsimmons
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    Both American Horror Story & Black Mirror were dominant players in the Limited/Movie categories for years, the former being a multiple acting winner and the later winning consecutive writing & movie prizes.

    For their most recent seasons, they were forced to compete in the Drama categories due continuing previous storylines and its runtime not being eligible for TV movie, respectively.

    If they both shows had competed in the Drama categories since the start, how do you think they would have faired?

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    I think Jessica Lange would have still won Supporting for s1.

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    Bryce Dallas Howard would have won Guest Actress for Nosedive.

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    For comparisons, the nominated AHS/BM categories and where they would’ve completed in drama.

    2012
    Drama Series

    Homeland (Showtime)
    — Boardwalk Empire (HBO)
    — Breaking Bad (AMC)
    — Downton Abbey (PBS)
    — Game of Thrones (HBO)
    — Mad Men (AMC)

    — American Horror Story (S1 – Murder House)

    Lead Actress Drama
    Claire Danes, Homeland
    — Kathy Bates, Harry’s Law
    — Glenn Close, Danages
    — Michelle Dockery, Downton Abbey
    — Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
    — Elisabeth Moss, Mad Men

    — Connie Britton (nominated in limited)

    Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad
    — Jim Carter, Downton Abbey
    — Brendan Coyle, Downton Abbey
    — Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
    – Giancarlo Esposito, Breaking Bad
    — Jared Harris, Mad Men

    — Denis O’Hare (nominated in Limited)

    Sup. Actress
    Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey
    — Christina Baranski, The Good Wife
    — Joanne Froggatt, Downtown Abbey
    — Anna Gunn, Breaking Bad
    — Christina Hendricks, Mad Men
    — Archie Panjabi, The Good Wife

    — Jessica Lange (won in Limited)
    — Frances Conroy (nominated in Limited)

    Guest Actor
    Jeremy Davies, Justified
    — Dylan Baker, The Good Wife
    — Ben Feldman, Mad Men
    — Michael J. Fox, The Good Wife
    — Mark Magnolias, Breaking bad
    — Jason Ritter, Parenthood

    Guest Eligible for Murder House
    — Charles S. Dutton
    — Zachary Quinto
    — Eric Stonestreet

    Guest Actress
    Martha Plimpton, The Good Wife
    — Joan Cusack, Shameless
    — Loretta Devine, Grey’s Anatomy
    — Julia Ormond, Mad Men
    — Jean Smart, Harry’s Law
    — Uma Thurman, Smash

    Guest eligible for AHS
    — Kate Mara
    — Adina Porter

    2013

    Drama Series
    — Claire Danes, Homeland
    — Connie Britton, Nashville
    — Michelle Dockery, Downton Abbey
    — Vera Farmiga, Bates Motel
    — Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Kerry Washington, Scandal
    — Robin Wright, House of Cards

    — Jessica Lange (Asylum — Emmy nominee)

    Sup. Actor
    — Bobby Cannavale, Boardwalk Empire
    — Jonathan Banks, Breaking Bad
    — Jim Carter, Downton Abbey
    — Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
    — Mandy Patinkin, Homeland
    — Aaron Paul, Breaking Bad

    — James Cromwell (won in Limited)
    — Zachary Quito (nominated in Limited, won CC in Limited)

    — Anna Gunn, Breaking Bad
    — Morena Baccarin, Homeland
    — Christine Baranski, The Good Wife
    — Emilia Clarke, Game of Thrones
    — Christina Hendricks, Mad Men
    — Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

    — Lily Rabe (CC nominated in Limited)
    — Sarah Paulson (nominated in Limited)

    Guest Actress
    — Carrie Preston, The Good Wife
    — Linda Cardellini, Mad Men
    — Joan Cusack, Shameless
    — Jane Fonda, The Newsroom
    — Margo Martindale, The Americans
    — Diana Rigg, Game of Thrones

    Guest eligible for Asylum
    — Chloe Sevigny
    — Clea DuVall
    — Naomi Grossman

    Guest Actor
    — Dan Bucatinsky, Scandal
    — Michael J. Fox, The Good Wife
    — Rupert Friend, Homeland
    — Harry Hamlin, Mad Men
    — Nathan Lane, The Good Wife
    — Robert Morse, Mad Men

    Guest Eligible for Asylum
    — Ian McShane

    2014

    — Julianna Margulies, The Good Wife
    — Lizzy Caplan, Masters of Sex
    — Claire Danes, Homeland
    — Michelle Dockery, Downton Abbey
    — Kerry Washington, Scandal
    — Robin Wright, House of Cards

    — Jessica Lange (won in Limited)
    — Sarah Paulson (nominated in Limited)

    Sup Actress
    Anna Gunn, Breaking Bad
    — Christine Baranski, The Good Wife
    — Joanne Froggatt, Downton Abbey
    — Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
    — Christina Hendricks, Mad Men
    — Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey

    — Kathy Bates (won in Limited)
    — Angela Bassett (nominated in Limited)
    — Frances Conroy (nominated Limited)

    Directing
    True Detective (“Who Goes There”)
    — Boardwalk Empire (“Farewell Daddy Blues”)
    — Breaking Bad (“Felina”)
    — Downton Abbey (“Episode One”)
    — Game of Thrones (“The Watchers on the Wall”)
    — House of Cards (“Chapter 14”)

    — American Horror Story (“Bitchcraft”)

    Writing
    Breaking Bad (“Ozymandias”)
    — Breaking Bad (“Felina”)
    — Game of Thrones (“The Children”)
    — House of Cards (“Chapter 14”)
    — True Detective (“The Secret Fate of All Life”)

    —- American Horror Story (“Bitchcraft”)

    Guest Actress
    Allison Janney, Masters of Sex
    — Kate Burton, Scandal
    — Jane Fonda, The Newsroom
    — Kate Mara, House of Cards
    — Margo Martindale, The Americans
    — Diana Riggs, Game of Thrones

    Guest Eligible for Coven
    — Gabourey Sidibe
    — Patti LuPone
    — Stevie Nicks

    Guest Actor
    Joe Morton, Scandal
    — Dylan Baker, The Good Wife
    — Beau Bridges, Masters of Sex
    — Reg E. Carthy, House of Cards
    — Paul Giamatti, Downton Abbey
    — Robert Morse, Mad Men

    Guest Eligible for Cohen
    — Danny Huston

    2015

    Game of Thrones (HBO)
    — Better Call Saul (AMC)
    — Downton Abbey (PBS)
    — Homeland (Showtime)
    — House of Cards (Netflix)
    — Mad Men (AMC)
    — Orange Is the New Black (Netflix)

    — Freak Show (nominated in Limited)

    Lead Actres
    Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
    — Claire Danes, Homeland
    — Taraji P. Henson, Empire
    — Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
    — Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Robin Wright, House of Carss

    — Jessica Lange (nominated in Limited)

    Sup. Actor
    Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
    — Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    — Jim Carter, Downton Abbey
    — Alan Cumming, The Good Wife
    — Michael Kelly, House of Cards
    — Ben Mendholson, Bloodline

    — Denis O’Hare (nominated in Limited)
    — Finn Wittrock (nominated in Limited)

    Sup. Actress
    Uzo Aduba, Orange is the New Black
    — Christine Baranski, The Good Wife
    — Emilia Clarke, Game of Thrones
    — Joanne Froggatt, Downton Abbey
    — Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
    — Christina Hendricks, Mad Men

    — Angela Bassett (nominated in Limited)
    — Kathy Bates (nominated in Limited)
    — Sarah Paulson (nominated in Limited, won CC in limited)

    Directing
    Game of Thrones (“Mother’s Mercy”)
    — Boardwalk Empire (“Eldorado”)
    — Game of Thrones (“Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken”)
    — Homeland (“From A to B and Back Again”)
    — The Knick (“Method and Madness”)

    — American Horror Story: Freak Show (“Monsters Among Us”)

    Guest Actor
    Reg E. Carthy, House of Cards
    — F. Murray Abraham, Homeland
    — Alan Alda, The Blacklist
    — Beau Bridges, Homeland
    — Michael J. Fox, The Good Wife
    — Pablo Schreiber, Orange is the New Black

    Guest Eligible for Freak Show
    — Wes Bentley
    — Matt Bomer
    — Danny Huston
    — Neil Patrick Harris

    Guest Actress
    Margo Martindale, The Americans
    — Khandi Alexander, Scandal
    — Rachel Brosnahan, House of Cards
    — Allison Janney, Masters of Sex
    — Diana Rigg, Game of Thrones
    — Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder

    Guest Eligible for Freak Show
    — Gabourey Sidibe
    — Lily Rabe
    — Cecile Weston

    2016

    Lead Actress
    Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
    — Claire Danes, Homeland
    — Viola Davis, How to Get Away with Murder
    — Taraji P. Henson, Empire
    — Keri Russell, The Americans
    — Robin Wright, House of Cards

    — Lady Gaga (won Golden Globe in Limited)

    Sup. Actor
    Ben Mendelsohn, Bloodline
    — Jonathan Banks, Better Call Saul
    — Peter Dinklage, Game of Thrones
    — Kit Harington, Game of Thrones
    — Michael Kelly, House of Cards
    — Jon Voight, Ray Donovan

    — Wes Bentley (CC nominated as Limited Lead)

    Sup. Actress, Drama
    Maggie Smith, Downton Abbey
    — Emilia Clarke, Game of Thrones
    — Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
    — Maura Tierney, The Affair
    — Maisie Williams, Game of Thrones
    — Constance Zimmer, UnREAL

    — Kathy Bates (nominated in Limited)
    — Sarah Paulson (nominated in Limited)

    Guest Actor, Drama
    Hank Azaria, Ray Donovan
    — Mahershala Ali, House of Cards
    — Reg E. Carthy, House of Cards
    — Michael J. Fox, The Good Wife
    — Paul Sparks, House of Cards
    — Max Von Sydow, Game of Thrones

    Guest Eligible for Hotel
    — Finn Wittrock

    Guest Actress, Drama
    Margo Martindale, The Americans
    — Ellen Burstyn, House of Cards
    — Allison Janney, Masters of Sex
    — Laurie Metcalf, Horace and Pete
    — Molly Parker, House of Cards
    — Carrie Preston, The Good Wife

    Guest Eligible for Hotel

    — Naomi Campbell
    — Lily Rabe
    — Gabourey Sidibe
    — Mare Winningham

    2017

    Drama Series
    The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)
    — Better Call Saul (AMC)
    — The Crown (Netflix)
    — House of Cards (Netflix)
    — Stranger Things (Netflix)
    — This Is Us (NBC)
    — Westworld (HBO)

    — Black Mirror (Netflix) (won TV movie)

    Writing, Drama Series
    The Handmaid’s Tale (Offred)
    — The Americans (“The Soviet Division”)
    — Better Call Saul (“Chicanery”)
    — Stranger Things (“Chapter One: The Vanishing of Will Byers”)
    — The Crown (“Assassins”)
    – Westworld (“The Bicameral Mind”)

    — Black Mirror (“San Jupiero”) (won Limited Writing)

    Guest Actor Drama
    Gerald McRaney, This Is Us
    — Hank Azaria, Ray Donovan
    — Brain Tyree Henry, This Is Us
    — Ben Mendohlson, Bloodline
    — Denis O’Hare, This Is Us
    — BD Wong, Mr. Robot

    Guest Eligible for Roanoke
    — Finn Wittrock

    Guest Actress
    Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Laverne Cox, Orange is the New Black
    — Ann Dowd, The Leftovers
    — Shannon Purser, Stranger Things
    — Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder
    — Allison Wright, The Americans

    Guest Eligble for Roanoke
    — Frances Conroy
    — Lady Gaga

    Guest Eligble for Black Mirror
    — McKenzie Davis (San Jupiero)
    — Bryce Dallas Howard (Nosedive — nominated for SAG Limited)
    — Gugu Mbatha-Raw (San Jupiero)

    2018

    Drama Series
    Game of Thrones (HBO)
    — The Americans (FX)
    — The Crown (Netflix)
    — The Handmaid’s Tale (Hulu)
    — Stranger Things (Netflix)
    — This Is Us (NBC)
    — Westworld (HBO)

    — Black Mirror (Netflix)

    Lead Actor
    — Matthew Rhys, The Americans
    — Jason Bateman, Ozark
    — Sterling K. Brown, This Is Us
    — Ed Harris, Westworld
    — Milo Ventimiglia, This Is Us
    — Jeffrey Wright, Westworld

    — Evan Peters (Cult — nominated in CC Limited Lead)

    Drama Writing
    USS Callister
    — The Americans (“START”)
    — The Crown (“Mystery Man”)
    — Game of Thrones (“The Dragon and the Wolf”)
    — The Handmaid’s Tale (“June”
    — Killing Eve (“Nice Face”)
    — Stranger Things (“Chapter Nine: The Gate”)

    — Black Mirror (USS Callister) (won Limited Writing)

    Lead Actress
    — Claire Foy, The Crown
    — Tatiana Maslany, Orphan Black
    — Elisabeth Moss, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Sandra Oh, Killing Eve
    — Keri Russell, The Americans
    — Evan Rachel Wood, Westworld

    — Sarah Paulson (Cult — Emmy Nominee)

    Sup. Actress, Drama
    — Thandie Newton, Westworld
    — Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Millie Bobby Brown, Stranger Things
    — Ann Dowd, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Lena Headey, Game of Thrones
    — Vanessa Kirby, The Crown
    — Yvonne Strahovski, The Handmaid’s Tale

    — Adina Porter (Cult — Emmy nominee)

    Guest Actor Drama
    — Ron Cephas Jones, This Is Us
    — F. Murray Abraham, Homeland
    — Cameron Britton, Mindhunter
    — Matthew Goode, The Crown
    — Gerald McRaney, This Is Us
    — Jimmi Simpson, Westworld

    — Billy Eicher (Cult)
    — Jesse Plemmons (USS Callister — Emmy nominated in Limited Lead)
    — Joe Cole (Hang the DJ — BAFTA nominated in lead)
    — Jimmi Simpson (USS Callister — BAFTA nominated in supporting)

    Guest Actress Drama
    — Samira Wiley, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Viola Davis, Scandal
    — Kelly Jenrette, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Cherry Jones, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Diana Rigg, Game Of Thrones
    — Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder

    Guest Eligble for Cult
    — Frances Conroy (Cult)
    — Lena Dunham (Cult)
    — Emma Roberts (Cult)

    Guest eligible for Black Mirror
    — Michael Coel (USS Callister)
    — Cristin Milioti (USS Callister)
    — Letitia Wright (Black Museum — Emmy nominated in supporting )

    2019

    AHS competed in Drama for the first time with it’s 8th instalment (“Apocalypse”), resulting in 5 nominations including 1 for Jessica Lange’s return as Constance Langdon in Guest Actress, Drama.

    Black Mirror didn’t have a full series air, only an actual TV movie (Bandersnatch), where it again competed in limited.

    2020

    Black Mirror competed in drama for the first time here, resulting in 1 nomination (Guest Actor for Andrew Scott). Meanwhile AHS returned to Limited Series, it received no Primetime nominations for the 2nd (after Roanoke)

    Guest Actress Drama

    Alexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale
    — Laverne Cox, Orange is the New Black
    — Cherry Jones, Succession
    — Phylicia Rashad, This Is Us
    — Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder
    — Harriet Walter, Succession

    Guest Eligible for 1984
    — Lily Rabe

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    I don’t know if they would’ve been as excepting of it in the drama categories but Lange would’ve been nominated for every season and won for Murder House at least.

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    Why would AHS compete in drama when every season is essentially a limited series?

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     Guest ActressAlexis Bledel, The Handmaid’s Tale — Laverne Cox, Orange is the New Black — Ann Dowd, The Leftovers — Shannon Purser, Stranger Things — Cicely Tyson, How to Get Away with Murder — Allison Wright, The Americans Guest Eligble for Roanoke — Frances Conroy — Lady Gaga Guest Eligble for Black Mirror — McKenzie Davis (San Jupiero) — Bryce Dallas Howard (Nosedive — nominated for SAG Limited) — Gugu Mbatha-Raw (San Jupiero) 

    I want to believe that Howard or one of the San Junipero ladies would have made it in over Purser but I just don’t know…

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    Why would AHS compete in drama when every season is essentially a limited series?

    A hypothetical out of curious since it competed there once, and has always competed in Drama at SAG.

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    I want to believe that Howard or one of the San Junipero ladies would have made it in over Purser but I just don’t know…

    Not even sure Purser would be bottom half, her show won SAG, her character was thee pop culture talking point and in a Series nominee.

    If I had to rank that years

    01. Bledel — The winner. Also overdue for a nom and in the eventual series winner
    02. Purser – see above
    03. Wright – don’t have anything to say on this placed in middle
    04. Tyson — eternal mainstay in the category.
    05. Anne Dowd – her shows only nom, likely a namecheck
    06. Cox – a future enteral mains but was her first nomination since the 1st.

    The three BM ladies all would’ve be excellent nominees and winners.

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    Not even sure Purser would be bottom half, her show won SAG, her character was thee pop culture talking point and in a Series nominee. If I had to rank that years 01. Bledel — The winner. Also overdue for a nom and in the eventual series winner 02. Purser – see above 03. Wright – don’t have anything to say on this placed in middle 04. Tyson — eternal mainstay in the category. 05. Anne Dowd – her shows only nom, likely a namecheck 06. Cox – a future enteral mains but was her first nomination since the 1st. The three BM ladies all would’ve be excellent nominees and winners.

    In hindsight, that was such a weird meme nomination and this is coming from a guy who thinks that Keery & Hawke deserved some cred for season 3.

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