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    If Keeley Hawes is payed no attention again I will be so sad, what more can she do at this point it clearly isn’t her roles, shows or acting that limit her. If BAFTA TV want to continue their habit of snubbing her this year I won’t be surprised

    FYC EMMYS: THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. OLIVIA COLMAN - D. ACTRESS & HBC - D. SUPP. ACTRESS) & IT’S A SIN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. LYDIA WEST - LIM. ACTRESS & KEELEY HAWES - LIM. SUPP. ACTRESS) & I MAY DESTROY YOU IN ALL CATEGORIES

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    If BAFTA TV want to continue their habit of snubbing her this year I won’t be surprised

    She is ineligible for BAFTA this year because the show aired in 2021 (meaning it’s eligible for the 2022 BAFTAs).

    But I agree with everything else you said. It’s absolutely ridiculous Keeley Hawes doesn’t have a BAFTA already. I personally think she should have won for Line of Duty and Mrs. Wilson.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    She is ineligible for BAFTA this year because the show aired in 2021 (meaning it’s eligible for the 2022 BAFTAs). But I agree with everything else you said. It’s absolutely ridiculous Keeley Hawes doesn’t have a BAFTA already. I personally think she should have won for Line of Duty and Mrs. Wilson.

     

    Ohh that makes sense, if she still is awardless in 2 years time it’ll be insane. She’s got so many big U.K. TV projects on the go now & she’s heavily respected and in demand.

    FYC EMMYS: THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. OLIVIA COLMAN - D. ACTRESS & HBC - D. SUPP. ACTRESS) & IT’S A SIN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. LYDIA WEST - LIM. ACTRESS & KEELEY HAWES - LIM. SUPP. ACTRESS) & I MAY DESTROY YOU IN ALL CATEGORIES

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    RTD won a special award from the CannesSeries festival for his work on the show!

    https://twitter.com/CANNESERIES/status/1372548053408841732

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    She is ineligible for BAFTA this year because the show aired in 2021 (meaning it’s eligible for the 2022 BAFTAs). But I agree with everything else you said. It’s absolutely ridiculous Keeley Hawes doesn’t have a BAFTA already. I personally think she should have won for Line of Duty and Mrs. Wilson.

    I think she should have won for Wives and Daughters and Ashes to Ashes before all that

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    Virginie Efira, Charlotte Rampling, Lambert Wilson, Benedetta (Actress, Supporting Actress, Supporting Actor)

    Jim Broadbent, Helen Mirren, The Duke (Actor, Supporting Actress)

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    I watched the show one month ago and I haven’t stopped thinking about it. I thought that I would never see something more perfect and brilliant than I May Destroy You this Emmy circle, but It’s a Sin made me feel things that I have felt only in my real life. The talent of Russell T. Davies is extraterrestrial. I never saw or had pacing issues, the contrary, I thing the pace, the rhythm and the tone are pitch perfect, so is the music, especially, the song choices.

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    An example of a truly remarkable scene would be the final scene in episode 4 in the truck when Ritchie finally confesses his secret, the line: “I have news for you, I will live” really destroyed me. His final monologue in best destroyed me. My lifestyle is similar to Ritchie’s and Roscoe’s, so it might be the pandemic that took some of it (especially the parties and the night life), but I was really a mess after this show.

    Speaking of Roscoe, all of his Queen and Diva moments were ABSOLUTE PERFECTION. But so were all his serious moments with his parents, I loved when he secretly gave money to his mother.

    The twist in Colin’s story also destroyed me, it was so unexpected, yet, believable. Again, it ring close to home, happily, when I was younger. It is so sad that he died with this boy being the “love if his life”… I am sobbing right now.


    Jill and the bridge scene.
    Jill and letters. Jill and her kindness to that lonely stranger. God, I have experienced such feelings. How Russell T. Davies does that?

    Lydia West, Olly Alexander and Callum Scott Howells are the MVP’s, they will be nominated everywhere. They should. They must. With all due respect to all of her fans here, Keeley Hawes is very distant from those three performances. It is the first time I see her on screen, so I respectfully think, that some of you might not be entirely objective since I see that you adore her career. Neil Patrick Harris was very powerful, but not above Howells or the massive charisma and presence of Omari Douglas. I would rank them like this: Lydia West > Callum Scott Howells > Olly Alexander > Keeley Hawes > Omari Douglas > Neil Patrick Harris > Nathaniel Curtis > Shaun Dooley > David Carlyle.


    Only 2 issues (I am surprised that no one have mentioned them):

    1. The lack of personal/intimate/love story for Jill for more than 10 years of her life. Her unstoppable will to help and sacrifice herself for others is impressive and can be a little unrealistic. We, thankfully, know that she did all of that and that she is a real woman (she plays Jill’s mother in the show), but it could have been better to explain her motives/lack of romance better.

    2. The motives of Ritchie’s sister Lucy (played by Toto Bruin). She was utterly horrible towards him for no reason at all. And not only in their teen years like some siblings, but all of his life. I see how the lack of parenting skills of their parents affected Ritchie self-esteem and augmented his self-hatred, but I sill cannot explain her behavior, was she hostile towards him because their father was often like this towards them? Was she homophobic as she clearly felt his sexuality unlike his parents? And was she crying with Roscoe in the cafeteria when Jill came back from the bridge? I think so, but I am not sure.

    Those two plot holes did need at least one more episode to fully develop, but regardless, the show is an 11 out of 10 for me.

    Grade: A+
    MVP: Lydia West, Callum Scott Howells and Olly Alexander.

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    SPOILERS AHEAD

    I understand the debate over Richie’s sister’s motives which indeed were questionable. However I personally felt that even though the character was clearly under-developed that the characterisation was quite realistic. Apart from in that final moment when she sobs with Jill and Roscoe, we see her through Ritchie’s eyes. Perhaps I only felt this way because the dynamic of their relationship felt quite similar to the one I had with my own sister when I was younger but I felt like their relationship was adversarial because they were so close? There was sibling jealousy involved in that relationship and I do think that is touched upon briefly in the opener but at the end of the day their relationship was characterised as such because in spite of Ritchie’s sister taking out her own insecurities in the form of jealousy, she actually loved him. So it made sense to show her grieve the loss of a close family member at the moment when we stopped seeing her through Ritchie’s eyes and we see her through Jill’s.

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    SPOILERS AHEAD

    I understand the debate over Richie’s sister’s motives which indeed were questionable. However I personally felt that even though the character was clearly under-developed that the characterisation was quite realistic. Apart from in that final moment when she sobs with Jill and Roscoe, we see her through Ritchie’s eyes. Perhaps I only felt this way because the dynamic of their relationship felt quite similar to the one I had with my own sister when I was younger but I felt like their relationship was adversarial because they were so close? There was sibling jealousy involved in that relationship and I do think that is touched upon briefly in the opener but at the end of the day their relationship was characterised as such because in spite of Ritchie’s sister taking out her own insecurities in the form of jealousy, she actually loved him. So it made sense to show her grieve the loss of a close family member at the moment when we stopped seeing her through Ritchie’s eyes and we see her through Jill’s.

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    Interesting interpretation, but I don’t think they were closed at all. Jealousy and some hidden love, maybe, but they were not closed at all, at least I did not feel it in any moment.

    But yeah, unlike you, I grew up as a single child. Our own experiences are often vital when we interpret art, like I already mentioned, in my case, many of the stories of Roscoe, Ritchie and one particular story of Colin hit home the hardest.

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    First of all, I would like to say I absolutely loved Russell T. Davies’ previous limited series Years And Years and I thought it was one of the best in recent years. Therefore, I had great expectations for this, especially after the great reviews.

    However, I didn’t really connect with this. In contrary to Y&Y, this has one of the most on-the-nose writing I have seen in years. Most of the show totally lacked subtlety and depths. It’s even more evident in the pilot, with a succession of louzy introductions, stereotypical scenes and characters. Most of the acting was also frankly amateurish or straight up bad.  Olly Alexander being the first offender and it didn’t help considering he was the lead of the show. He didn’t sell any of his dramatics which took me out most of the times. Lydia West was fine, but she had one expression throughout the whole show (the same one she had on Years and Years) and that’s it. I don’t really get the praises for neither of them. West’s character was also positioned to be the core of the group, or at least the secondary after Alexander’s, but her character barely had any personality nor personal storylines. Her only purpose in the show seems to have been the good friend, and that’s it. She had no interests other than following the lives of the gay men she was living with. Keeley Hawes delivered by far the best performance of the whole show and was excellent in the finale. She completely outshined the other cast members whenever she was sharing a scene with them. You could tell who was the experienced actress, and who was not (and no, it’s not because I stan her in other projects, this is only the second time I see her in something. The first being Bodyguard, and I couldn’t care less for her).

    Of course, having a show like this putting queer people at the center and examining the AIDS crisis is still very rare and important so I’m happy this is getting viewed and appreciated even if that was not the case for me. But as it was mentioned before, a similar topic is being told and handled much, much better on Pose with characters that feel more real and more genuine, better writing and acting. I couldn’t stop thinking about it while watching It’s A Sin because the difference in quality was like night and day for me.

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