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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    I think some of you are taking the show much more seriously than it takes itself. The plot of Killing Eve has always been ridiculous and a mess, from season 1, episode 1 till now. The show is good due to its characters, weird moments of humor, beauty and violence and its visuals.

    Also, the idea is that Eve and Villanelle cannot stop thinking about each other…. like never. So this is why anytime that they see each other it feels like they have always been together and like they know each other, this is why Eve never believed that Villanelle attacked Niko and why Villanelle was sure that Eve wants to kill people. So the ending does make a perfect sense, they are finally honest with each other. But yes, this all should have happened in season 2.

    Season 3 has been better than season 2 and it has great moments and episodes, so I do not think that is done. I still see Comer as lock and Shaw as a big threat, she was excellent this season and she even deserves to win.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    But seriously, what was the point of Geraldine? The writers could’ve easily had Konstantin exploit Carolyn’s guarded loneliness after Kenny’s death without a middleman.

    Carolyn is way too strong and smart for that, no way.

    Killing Eve season 3 is the worst season of television of an acclaimed show since Homeland season 3.

    Nope, this honor belongs to Westworld season 3.

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    After seeing the whole season I think the show is still fairly competitive in acting noms and some below the line, like Production Design…maybe even Cinematography.

    Wrting is out of the reach, I think, tho for the sake of it, they should submitt one of the two episodes: Meetings Have Biscuits (Laura) or Are You From Pinner? (Suzanne)

    The former was good old KE at its finest, the latter was KE tries something new and as a stand alone ep, its structure and execution was really good.

    Directing: Are You From Pinner? Again from technical POV (directing, cinematography, production design) it really was one their best this season. And considering how hot they were for this new Australian director (Shannon Murphy) and how much they praised her and promoted her on twitter, this could be their submission.

    Acting submission, if happens:
    Sandra – ep 1 (Slowly Slowly Catchy Monkey) or ep 3 (Meetings Have Biscuits)
    Jodie – ep 5 (Are You from Pinner?)
    Fiona – ep 2 (Management Sucks)
    Kim (lol, I know, but I love him, okay?) – ep 8 (Are you Leading or Am I?)

    Shame they didn’t submitt Evegenia Dodina in Guest Actress, not a chance of getting nom, obviously, but just for the sake of it, they should do it.

    Short summary: this finale made a lot of things right and few things wrong. Like many of you said – this ending should take place in s.2. But at the same time, it did manage to put Eve and Villanelle in situations where individually they reached their absolute limits, so by the time they meet again, they are simply exhausted. What’s left is this utterly bizzare connection that they have. Connection where they often can communicate their feelings and thoughts without any words.

    Villanelle’s jounery was done better, than Eve’s. But I would argue that they’ve done a lot of things right with Eve this season, especially in the first half. The episode that broke the thread for her development wasn’t IMO ep 5, but ep 6. That’s where the work should have been done, that’s where the show wasn’t able to communicated better her POV. Finalle was able to fix some of that, but the show needs to do better with Eve.

    I do think however, that s.4 really might be Eve’s season, simply because if she stays in touch in Villanelle, there is no way she will be able to hide from some of her darker desires. How are they gonna effect each other if their inner-selves want two different things at the moment?

    Anyway, thanks to everyone who was here these past few weeks. I’m staying with this unique show till the end. On to the next season!

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    Random info:
    Johnny Jewel & Saoirse Ronan song “Tell Me” (it was used in the last scene) entered iTunes charts in some countries. The biggest gain was in the UK where it was in Top 40 (currently at #46).

    Ratings for s.3 were fairly consistent. Compare to last year, they lost some viewers, but young demo (18-49) stayed on decent level. Most viewers still see the show as BBCA’s show, not AMC’s (BBCA beat AMC five times).

    In Live Same Day ratings, the difference between these two networks wasn’t big: BBCA 0.10 vs AMC 0.11 (avarage demo). But in L+3 Days ratings BBCA beat AMC almost every single week. I don’t have data for two episodes, but for eg. ep 3×7 L3 ratings were: BBCA 0.22 vs AMC 0.15.

    Anyway,, in terms of demo, year 2 year the show lost 22% on AMC, but gained 14% on BBCA.
    Season 1 avg (BBCA) 0.11
    Season 2 avg (both networks) 0.23
    Season 3 avg (both networks) 0.21

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    I will say that Fiona Shaw definitely needs to be considered for an Emmy nomination this year. I do not see this show returning in Series, Directing or Writing.

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    The show is kinda messy, but the ending was very good – as it was the last few episodes.

    Comer is great, but Shaw may be my MVP of this season. Brilliant!

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    Finished it, I think it was probably my least favorite of all the season threes: like Killing EveThe Handmaid’s TaleWestworld/Stranger ThingsOzarkThe Crown < The Deuce

    Great performances, but so many lifeless plotlines and uninteresting characters. It was never a really deep show but besides Comer’s material as Villanelle it wasn’t ever exciting or engaging either. Killing Eve used to be a bold and risky show and now it just seems like they’re just recycling what they know people will like while teasing bits about The Twelve, which was never the compelling part of the story anyway.

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    Wrting is out of the reach, I think, tho for the sake of it, they should submitt one of the two episodes: Meetings Have Biscuits (Laura) or Are You From Pinner? (Suzanne)

    They are submitting both! That these rotating lead writers are not quite showrunners is among the other things that I clarified in my interview with lead writer Suzanne Heathcote:

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    You don’t waste Sandra Oh like that…Do the writers not like Eve anymore? ‘Cause they really liked Villanelle this season. Why did they drop “Eve might be a psychopath too” from last season. Oh was great last season and I might’ve been the only one who felt she deserved the Emmy over Comer last season. Why’d they do her like that? Even Carolyn had more to do.

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    Why did they drop “Eve might be a psychopath too” from last season.

    What show were you watching? This is literally the subject of the last two episodes and of the last scene of season 3.

    Oh was great last season and I might’ve been the only one who felt she deserved the Emmy over Comer last season.

    Yes, you are.

    Why’d they do her like that? Even Carolyn had more to do.

    Because Eve is very boring, Carolyn is much more interesting character. Fiona Shaw’s performance this season has been better than any performance of Oh during all 3 seasons.

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    I do think that some people may not appreciate Sandra Oh’s understated performance in some episodes.

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    What show were you watching? This is literally the subject of the last two episodes and of the last scene of season 3.

    If anything, it was one of the reasons why s.2 finale was so perplexing to so many fans and critics. Season two was doing all the good work (ep 2×7 is one of my all time fave), only to retreat last minute in a manner that now frustrates even more.

    Heathcote brought back Eve with suppressed dark desires, but thanks to s.2 ending, she had to do the same work all over again. This time however she left another lead writer with a much better starting point. L. Neal won’t have to do the same dance again, she can now finally move on.

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    If anything, it was one of the reasons why s.2 finale was so perplexing to so many fans and critics. Season two was doing all the good work (ep 2×7 is one of my all time fave), only to retreat last minute in a manner that now frustrates even more.

    Heathcote brought back Eve with suppressed dark desires, but thanks to s.2 ending, she had to do the same work all over again. This time however she left another lead writer with a much better starting point. L. Neal won’t have to do the same dance again, she can now finally move on.

    Totally agree.

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    You don’t waste Sandra Oh like that…Do the writers not like Eve anymore? ‘Cause they really liked Villanelle this season. Why did they drop “Eve might be a psychopath too” from last season. Oh was great last season and I might’ve been the only one who felt she deserved the Emmy over Comer last season. 

    You’re not the only one, and although it’s an unpopular opinion, I agree with you on Oh deserving it. She had that tearful scene “I feel wide awake” with the doctor (her best scene), and the “killer Eve” persona in the season finale, which was the episode submitted. However, I don’t care though in what order Comer and Oh wins (they both deserve it), as long as Oh wins by series end.

    As you can tell from no Season 2 BAFTA nom for her, Season 1 was probably her only shot for the Emmy/BAFTA due to the deterioration in character depth in the following seasons, whereas Comer has an endless supply of good awards worthy scenes because of the nature of the character. Regrettably, due to her being sidelined and the poor script for her character, I think Oh’s awards chances this year and if she’s even on next year are pretty bad. There’s actually no point to Eve if she’s being sidelined that much.

    I do think that some people may not appreciate Sandra Oh’s understated performance in some episodes.

    I agree, and it makes me wonder. If one is into subtle performances like Foy in The Crown or Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea, I’m not sure why one wouldn’t appreciate Sandra’s acting as her role has been very subdued the last two seasons. Even Colman in The Crown has very subtle acting and is still the favorite to win the Emmy this year.

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    “Are You Leading or Am I?”: A frequently brilliant finale led by three powerhouse performances. Foremost amongst them, as with the entire season, was Fiona Shaw. There’s just an infinite number of layers to the work she’s doing here. If we’re to be thankful of Heathcote’s reign for anything it’s got to be her understanding that she’s got a British legend in her cast and she should be giving her something to do. Comer and Oh also shone, especially in that electrifying final scene. Theirs is a tough category for me this year but I would not turn up my nose at either being nominated. They are kind of the reverse of Shaw in that (other than Comer’s solo episode) both have been let down by their storylines rather than any drop in performance quality. If anything I’d actually say the finale proved that when they’re given real meat they can be better than ever.

    I think the big key to this episode for me was that it was finally funny. Right from the off with that priceless lasagna line, it felt tonally comfortable in a way that the show probably hasn’t been all season. On a similar note, I loved that the tangfastics joke from earlier in the season that I had thought came up way too much was actually a pivotal piece of info for discovering Kenny’s killer. That said, I didn’t like the greek drama of suddenly they’ve discovered who did it but we don’t get to see them do so nor do we know why Kenny’s friend never thought to check his secret camera after his mate mysteriously fell off the building.

    Other problems I had included the occasional moments of predictability (Carolyn not killing Konstantin, Eve and Villanelle looking back) and the fact that the first half of the episode, whilst still very entertaining, felt like a mid-season set of events. I can forgive this though because it led up to an absolutely mammoth scene at Paul’s apartment that has to be a series highlight. It was highly dramatic thanks to Carolyn’s gun dilemma but even then it never let go of the sense of humour that once made the show what it is. (I’ve forgotten to write it all season but Comer’s facial expressions are a comic masterclass and that has never been more evident than in this scene). Mostly though, it was just a joy to see the entire cast on screen together.

    This season has been the definition of hit and miss and whilst others can go whatever separate ways they may choose I’m definitely sticking with it into the next. If only because every episode that Laura Neal had a hand in this season was action-packed and full of life and that’s a Killing Eve I can’t resist.

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