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Lead or Supporting: Jeremy Irons in Watchmen
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    I haven’t heard too much talk about Irons’ placement, but I personally have always found the idea of him going lead to be very weird, as his part is definitely much closer in size to the likes of Smart and Nelson’s than King’s. While he does lead one plotline of the show, it’s still very secondary to the main action with King.

    But while I personally don’t get the lead placement, I wanted to see if anyone on here thinks he’s being campaigned in the right spot and if they could say why.

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    Supporting wouldnt be fraud, but lead is a fair characterization especially considering the finale and his part in “A God Walks into Abar.”

    But, yea, its borderline and probably more fitting in supporting, but so was Carrie Coon in the Leftovers

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    He is supporting, but we routinely see more fraudulent lead submissions and going the other way is more clearly gaming the system.

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    Supporting

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    He is definitely the male lead, but not a co-lead to Regina King. He is Supporting, but I have to admit that I prefer to see him in lead because then Watchmen can get nominated everywhere.

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    Lead. Quite literally half the narrative is centered on his character.

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    How is his performance forgettable? I mean you may not like what he was going for, it was certainly a lot, but forgettable is not the word I would use to describe it.

    I feel that everyone is supporting to king in the ensemble but given that he leads his own storyline for a good chunk of the narrative and also given that his performance is such a standout, I think the placement is justified.

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    Supporting

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    Lead. Quite literally half the narrative is centered on his character.

    Except it’s not literally half though is it. It might be figuratively half but in terms of the actual numbers his storyline gets at most 10 minutes on screen before the finale so that’s more like 1/5 of the narrative we see. Just because the storylining only has two major sections doesn’t mean we should ignore that this is weighted very heavily towards one and not the other for most of the series.

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    He have a individual storyline but he is supporting for me. But I don’t have any problems with him being submitted in lead, feels right too.

    In the same topic, I think Byrne is more a co-lead in Mrs. America than Irons in Watchmen.

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    While I agree that Irons was the male lead of Watchmen, it shouldn’t put you in lead category. John Slattery is the male lead of Mrs. America and imagine him competing in lead. Still, I’m okay with Irons going lead because as Riley said the opposite case happens more often as category fraud.

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    He submitted Lead and so that’s where he will compete. He could have gone with either category, but I admire him for not playing it safe and potentially taking a nomination away from one of his co-stars with less screen time and celebrity name recognition like Tim Blake Nelson or Yahya Abdul-Mateen II.

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    Except it’s not literally half though is it. It might be figuratively half but in terms of the actual numbers his storyline gets at most 10 minutes on screen before the finale so that’s more like 1/5 of the narrative we see. Just because the storylining only has two major sections doesn’t mean we should ignore that this is weighted very heavily towards one and not the other for most of the series.

    That’s why I said “narratively,” which you just brushed away because people love to use runtime to justify placement. I’ve made it clear many times before on these forums that I don’t like that way of thinking about characterization and category placement.

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    That’s why I said “narratively,” which you just brushed away because people love to use runtime to justify placement. I’ve made it clear many times before on these forums that I don’t like that way of thinking about characterization and category placement.

    I didn’t actually brush it aside (I spoke only of level of storyline focus not actor) but okay I’ll play it your way. “Narratively” the series gave Regina King’s storyline four times more attention than it did Jeremy Irons’. Happy now?

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