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    Well I think Gosset Jr. is winning so agreed he is too low in the odds lol.

    I don’t think Gossett Jr. can win given Nelson is definitely the most acclaimed of Watchmen’s supporting men by a quite a bit.

    However, I am thinking of moving him in. He’s not a big role, but he is a respected name and previous winner who was consistently very good throughout, more so than Johnson and Abdul-Mateen.

    Johnson does a great job in the first episode, but he’s barely in the rest of the show, and the reveal about his character kind of undermines his performance. Abdul-Mateen is great in his focus episode, but aside from that and a much more limited appearance in the finale, his role is very unshowy and small. And I said before, I feel like actors might not go for a performance that’s heavy on effects and happens to have the actor’s face off camera for a big chunk of his showcase episode.

    Its funny, cause if HBO had Irons going supporting, predicting Watchmen’s supporting contenders would be a lot easier, as it would’ve probably just been him and Nelson.

    Edit: I’m now seeing that it looks like Johnson’s not in the predictions center anymore. Guess he didn’t meet eligibility. I feel bad for him, Hong Chau, and Jovan Adepo. They all would’ve been much stronger contenders in guest if the show went drama series.

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    Gosset Jr talk? Rofl the stretch

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    Gosset Jr talk? Rofl the stretch

    He is a veteran and respected Oscar winner giving a well-received performance in the Series frontrunner and is competing in one of the emptiest categories this year.

    How is it a stretch to predict his nomination?

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    Maybe they were talking about the win.

    I have my doubts that Don Johnson missed eligibility.  Not everyone on television ends up  submitted and we sometimes have no idea why.  Did Jovan Adepo have more screen time than Johnson for example?  Speaking of which, if you open up the ballot and immediately see Yahya Abdul-Mateen II and then Jovan Adepo as Hooded Justice right underneath him, why would you not check him off too?  I am becoming much more receptive to Watchmen over-performing because those When They See Us voters were insane last year.  I do not know who in their right mind would vote for Aunjanue Ellis in lead and Marsha Stephanie Blake for acting awards.  And those voters are still around and obviously prone to abuse their ballots again, unlike the more sensible fans of other shows, who have no problem passing over a Jessie Buckley or a Joshua Jackson.

    Not an exact fit, but Watchmen does seem to be positioned best to receive the When They See Us bloc.  It is so tricky because most shows are not like When They See Us or The Normal Heart having the legs to get Joe Mantello and Alfred Molina in addition to the obvious nominations for Matt Bomer and Jim Parsons, even under the unlimited voting system.  Escape at Dannemora missed Eric Lange; Sharp Objects missed Chris Messina and Eliza Scanlen; Godless missed Scoot McNairy; Fargo missed Michael Stuhlbarg and Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

    Hollywood is tricky because Jim Parsons is obviously giving the most academy-friendly performance and is the most academy-friendly name, but there has been more consensus than anticipated that Joe Mantello was better, so it seems wrong to predict Parsons without Mantello.  But then there is little logic in predicting both of them, while predicting the show nowhere else above the line.  There was a similar conundrum with Kyle Chandler and George Clooney last year and both ended up missing for Asante Blackk.  Say what you will about Catch-22, which had better reviews and actually did okay at the year-end awards, but Chandler and Clooney were also Hulu’s only submissions for the show; they did not have to deal with Darren Criss and Dylan McDermott undermining their support.  Maybe Hollywood is closer to The Looming Tower, which had cases to be made for Bill Camp, Tahar Rahim, Peter Sarsgaard and Michael Stuhlbarg.  They only got Stuhlbarg in a field of seven.

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    I agree with the majority of this, but Aunjanue deserved that nomination regardless of category placement (and she deserves a nomination this year as well, though she is very unlikely to get it). The acting branch merely discounted the fact that she had a supporting rather than leading role. I certainly wouldn’t describe voting for her as ‘ballot abuse’.

    If Watchmen somehow does pull off a When They See Us-esque acting haul, I hope Hong Chau manages to scrape in as well. She would’ve been my winner in guest actress had it competed in drama.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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    Yes I was referring to a win.

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    I think Little Fires might be in. Hulu is paying mad money to advertise it EVERYWHERE. I see non-stop billboards and posters for it here in LA. I think the last spot might be Apple money vs Ryan Murphy. There does seem to be a negative vibe towards Hollywood and I’m hoping that means it won’t get in, but it definitely could. Also, Unorthodox might be popular enough to sneak in ahead of Defending Jacob and Hollywood… but that is very iffy and will only happen if it’s popularity is being underestimated.

    I feel like Defending Jacob has the most expensive campaign of all limited series this year, so that, plus its spring slot, plus its steak-eater accessibility has me concerned about not predicting it.  I should drop Little Fires Everywhere, but the race topicality is just such a compelling singular argument.

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    I mean, sure, he’s not being discussed at the moment but how is predicting him ridiculous? There isn’t even a soft front runner – the category is wide open. Who’s more likely? John Slattery for a barely there role in a program that is focused on the women? Jim Parsons for a complete flop? Inexplicably Jesse Plemons?

    I feel that everyone is kind of ignoring cultural context here. If he gets nominated, there will be a push for him to get recognition.

    @thatnerdgreg agreed that Nelson got more critical ink but I think a lot of the conversation after the show actually aired has focused more on Gosset Jr. among the supporting men.

    It definitely is somewhat of a gut feeling, admittedly, but there are still factors to back it up.

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    I mean, sure, he’s not being discussed at the moment but how is predicting him ridiculous? There isn’t even a soft front runner – the category is wide open. Who’s more likely? John Slattery for a barely there role in a program that is focused on the women? Jim Parsons for a complete flop? Inexplicably Jesse Plemons? I feel that everyone is kind of ignoring cultural context here. If he gets nominated, there will be a push for him to get recognition. @thatnerdgreg agreed that Nelson got more critical ink but I think a lot of the conversation after the show actually aired has focused more on Gosset Jr. among the supporting men. It definitely is somewhat of a gut feeling, admittedly, but there are still factors to back it up.

    I would take the idea of him winning more seriously if you weren’t predicting Jennifer Aniston to be snubbed in favour of Sandra Oh.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    I would take the idea of him winning more seriously if you weren’t predicting Jennifer Aniston to be snubbed in favour of Sandra Oh.

    Believe what you want.

    If anything, I’d take out Reese (but I still have 100/1 odds) over Sandra.

    I have had Aniston in and out – will probably find space for her again in the end – but it would be a pretty rough look for this category to be all white and I wouldn’t currently predict that, like you are.

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    Believe what you want. If anything, I’d take out Reese (but I still have 100/1 odds) over Sandra. I have had Aniston in and out – will probably find space for her again in the end – but it would be a pretty rough look for this category to be all white and I wouldn’t currently predict that, like you are.

    Are you implying I am racially biased because I’m predicting Aniston? LMAO!

    Considering Aniston got in at SAG and won whilst Oh went from a win to a snub I’d say the former is far likelier than the latter. Unfortunately the Emmys are prone to shut out people of colour in lead categories all the time. I mean look at Lead Actress in a Comedy last year.

    FYC Emmys : Jodie Comer ("Killing Eve"), Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials"), Russell Tovery ("Years and Years"), Helena Bonham Carter ("The Crown") & The Crown, His Dark Materials, Years and Years, Succession and The Affair in all categories. The Politician : Ben Platt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Bette Midler and Judith Light.

    FYC Goldderby Awards : MAURA TIERNEY AND DOMINIC WEST FOR THE FINAL SEASON OF THE AFFAIR

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    Since there’s been some discussion on the Watchmen actors, here are the number of lines spoken by each of the submitted actors + Don Johnson. I thought about posting the full episode-by-episode stats but figured it would be too spoilery considering the nature of the show.

    A line counts as anything that can be spelled that a character says before they are interrupted by another character or a scene change.

    Angela Abar (Regina King) – 549
    Calvin Abar (Yahya Abdul-Mateen II) – 297
    Laurie Blake (Jean Smart) – 207
    Wade Tillman (Tim Blake Nelson) – 182
    Adrian Veidt (Jeremy Irons) – 165
    Lady Trieu (Hong Chau) – 112
    Will Reeves (Louis Gossett Jr.) – 83
    Young Will Reeves (Jovan Adepo) – 83
    Judd Crawford (Don Johnson) – 78

    Some notes:

    • Regina King is clearly the show’s sole lead.
    • Yahya Abdul-Mateen II, Jean Smart, Tim Blake Nelson, and Jeremy Irons probably have similar screen time as prominent supporting characters given Abdul-Mateen’s dialogue-heavy episode and Irons’ visual-heavy scenes.
    • Someone should have probably submitted Don Johnson. Maybe he submitted himself.
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    Are you implying I am racially biased because I’m predicting Aniston?

    That’s… not at all what I said.

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    I finished Unorthodox, it is really well done, everything works perfectly – writing, acting, directing, editing, but is a very intimate story, I am pleasantly surprise about that, I expected something much more mainstream and is actually the opposite, I am happy that such story has found a wide success.

    Shira Haas is phenomenal, she is subtle and managed to say a lot with very little, she is terrific and really moving in the last episode, but for me she is not undeniable like other see her, she is not on the level of Joey King last year or of Wever, Blanchett, King and Witherspoon this year. I liked her more than Washington and Dever though.

    I do not see her happening without the show, but it will be hard, those 41 000 votes on IMDB seems very huge though. If she and the show both get in, I completely see Amit Rahav getting in as well, he was amazing, his role was as difficult as hers, maybe even more and he was almost a co-lead, what a stellar performance.

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    If she and the show both get in, I completely see Amit Rahav getting in as well, he was amazing, his role was as difficult as hers, maybe even more and he was almost a co-lead, what a stellar performance.

    At least someone feels the same way as me! We had this debate a week or so ago and most people disagreed with that.

    For Your Consideration:

    Best International Feature: Instinct (The Netherlands)
    Best Actress: Carice van Houten (Instinct)

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