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    Brayden Fitzsimmons
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    I had posted this a while ago that we were underestimating the Watchmen actors in the Supporting Actor category and I’m glad most people have updated their predictions accordingly

    Same, also glad I managed to grab YAM-II & Adepo at 100/1 odds.

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    I’ve said this before on these threads so forgive the broken-record-ness, this category feels ripe for a John Legiuzamo-esque surprise. And I think that could be Cory Fern for AHS: 1984. His situation reminds me so much of Adina Porter for Cult. Nomination for their 2nd AHS season in a notoriously empty field after being snubbed for for their first (and in Fern’s case, also Versace). Granted 1984 is trash and anyone who isn’t John Carol Lynch, Lily Rabe or Finn Wittrock shouldn’t be anywhere near consideration for it. Hoping this category is Slattery + WatchmenX4 + a good surprise/inspired (Rahav, Martell, Baldry, Mantello or McDermott if they must do a Hollywood guy) Hell even Lynch would be a inspired choice, he’s a reliable character actor whose worked with everyone over the years & gave a genuinely fantastic performance in a trash-bag of a season. Reminds of Stephen Root for Barry if his show was actually good / getting above-the-nominations.

    Yeah, Slattery and Nelson are the only men in that category I’m confident will make it in. Besides those two, it’s a real free for all.

    With your mention of AHS, it’s crazy to think just how far that show’s fallen. A few years ago they managed to nab acting nods for Freak Show, a season that very few people actually liked. Now everyone is expecting them to get completely shut out of a fairly open field.

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    At the moment here’s how I am ranking the top 15 of Supporting Actor in a Limited Series/Movie :

    1. Tim Blake Nelson
    2. John Slattery
    3. Yayha Abdul-Mateen II
    4. Louis Gossett Jr.
    5. Jovan Adepo
    6. Eric Lange

    7. Jim Parsons
    8. Joe Mantello
    9. Amit Rahav
    10. Jaeden Martell

    11. J.K. Simmons
    12. John Turturro
    13. Joshua Jackson
    14. Ray Romano
    15. Tituss Burgess

    Potential replacement for Burgess or Romano : Cody Fern/Jesse Plemons

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    Yeah, Slattery and Nelson are the only men in that category I’m confident will make it in. Besides those two, it’s a real free for all.

    With your mention of AHS, it’s crazy to think just how far that show’s fallen. A few years ago they managed to nab acting nods for Freak Show, a season that very few people actually liked. Now everyone is expecting them to get completely shut out of a fairly open field.

    It’s insane, Freak Show topped overall nominations that year across all programmes and even managed to get Denis O’Hare nominated just for having endowed member.

    It’s odd, because for a show that stars Oscar & Tony winners & nominees in its main (Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Denis O’Hare, Lily Rabe). Jessica Lange being apart of it give it a certain prestige & gravitas towards it.

    Her being essentially being replaces by Lady Gaga for the 5th season (whom at the time, was seen as a disastrous choice. She was a popstar who never acted professionally on-screen before, was still trying to recover from the floppage that was ArtPop and was reduced to being a duet partner for Jazz singer from the 60s.)

    In retrospect, it is a somewhat bold choice and AHS/Ryan Murphy can forever claim bragging rights that they have an future Oscar winner for first acting role.

    It’s a shame that poor Cult (still the 2nd best season behind Asylum) could get more love in the most notoriously empty year this decade and with the entire industry in a “f*ck Trump” mood.

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    I guess Gaga’s casting could be considered bold in a way, but it really wound up being a terrible decision, as she was way out of her comfort zone in that role. But to be fair, it didn’t matter who played that role, nothing was gonna save that season.

    It is interesting that you mentioned Denis O’Hare’s nomination the previous year for a character and performance that weren’t particularly popular, but he missed out the next year despite the most acclaimed part of that season. Granted, it was the year of OJ and Fargo season 2.

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    I still believe AHS can make a comeback if Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuck reduce the comedic tone the recent seasons have and include more horror elements. Though it looks like this show is no longer a priority for Murphy and Falchuck and that’s why the recent seasons had mediocre plotlines and lack of vision.

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    I wouldn’t predict it but Slattery could also easily miss if Mrs. America is softer than we expect. His performance is pretty lowkey and the focus of that show is the women. There is not a huge incentive to vote for him here.

    Also, just to clarify my previous point re: Paul, I wasn’t personally disparaging his performance, which I quite enjoyed – just noting his shakiness in terms of getting a nomination.

    In the few weeks since I was dragged for suggesting that several Watchmen actors could get in and Gossett Jr. could actually win, seems like the forums are coming around to the idea…

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    I wouldn’t predict it but Slattery could also easily miss if Mrs. America is softer than we expect. His performance is pretty lowkey and the focus of that show is the women. There is not a huge incentive to vote for him here.

    I highly doubt Slattery could miss. His category is so empty and if Mrs. America underperforms I think it affects the women in the Supporting Actress race rather than him and Blanchett. I mean we saw how Alexander Skarsgard won an Emmy for Big Little Lies despite David Thewliss, Alfred Molina and Stanley Tucci having arguably more acclaimed performances. IMO Mrs. America would either have to not be a lock for series or be around 5th (I think it’s 2nd) for Slattery to miss. I mean don’t forget some of Cate Blanchett’s best scenes that voters may single out as reasoning to vote for her are with him (i.e. “I have raised six of your children”).

    I think Blake Nelson or Gossett Jr. will win but I think Slattery is in with a chance to upset if four Watchmen actors get nominated (especially considering how Parsons is becoming shakier for the nomination).

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    I highly doubt Slattery could miss. His category is so empty and if Mrs. America underperforms I think it affects the women in the Supporting Actress race rather than him and Blanchett. I mean we saw how Alexander Skarsgard won an Emmy for Big Little Lies despite David Thewliss, Alfred Molina and Stanley Tucci having arguably more acclaimed performances. IMO Mrs. America would either have to not be a lock for series or be around 5th (I think it’s 2nd) for Slattery to miss. I mean don’t forget some of Cate Blanchett’s best scenes that voters may single out as reasoning to vote for her are with him (i.e. “I have raised six of your children”). I think Blake Nelson or Gossett Jr. will win but I think Slattery is in with a chance to upset if four Watchmen actors get nominated (especially considering how Parsons is becoming shakier for the nomination).

    I agree that Slattery’s safe, but I’m pretty certain Skarsgaard’s performance was more acclaimed than those three men, at the very least more so than the ones from Feud.

    Also there’s no way that Gossett beats Nelson. The latter is very clearly the show’s favorite and if anyone from Watchmen wins this category, it’ll be him.

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    Aaron Paul flopping for both of his performances this year – one vastly mediocre and honestly ruined a show for me, while the other I’m sure was boring as hell – is a moment in history that I will look back favorably on.

    I, as most people here, consider his performance in Breaking Bad as the best male drama supporting performance of the decade. However, his performance in Westworld is the worst acting I have seen this Emmy cicle… And there is zero passion for El Camino. Truth be told is one of those shows that look like they are yet to be programmed, it is fascinating how no one cares for this show.

    I mean we saw how Alexander Skarsgard won an Emmy for Big Little Lies despite David Thewliss, Alfred Molina and Stanley Tucci having arguably more acclaimed performances.

    This statement is absurd, especially when time has passed. No one even remembers what Molina and Tucci played… Skarsgard has one of the most memorable characters of the decade, what a tremendous performance. David Thewliss was terrific, but his character was very difficult to buy.

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    Skarsgard was perfectly fine on BLL but is considered to be way better than he actually was due to how he got taken along for the ride of the show’s awards sweep

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    This statement is absurd, especially when time has passed. No one even remembers what Molina and Tucci played… Skarsgard has one of the most memorable characters of the decade, what a tremendous performance. David Thewliss was terrific, but his character was very difficult to buy.

    Ok I loved Skarsgard’s performance in Big Little Lies season 1 (like there is not a single thing wrong with that first season it’s a flawless masterpiece) but say he played one of the most memorable characters of the decade could not be further from the truth. I mean he wasn’t even one of the most memorable characters of his programme (those roles belong to the Monterey Five).

    FYC Emmys : THE MARVELOUS MRS. MAISEL, SUCCESSION AND THE CROWN IN ALL CATEGORIES. Tony Shalhoub ("Maisel"), Cate Blanchett ("Mrs. America"), Matthew Macfadyen, Jeremy Strong, Sarah Snook ("Succession"), Tracey Ullman ("Mrs. America") and Louis Gossett Jr. ("Watchmen")

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    I, as most people here, consider his performance in Breaking Bad as the best male drama supporting performance of the decade. However, his performance in Westworld is the worst acting I have seen this Emmy cicle… And there is zero passion for El Camino. Truth be told is one of those shows that look like they are yet to be programmed, it is fascinating how no one cares for this show.

    As I said, I didn’t care for him on Westworld, but I can cut him slack because his character was horribly written underdeveloped. There really wasn’t much that he could do with the role. It felt like we learned barely anything about him by the end, even though there was an episode dedicated to showing his backstory.

    As for the passion of his movie, it’s interesting to me, that El Camino, Bad Education, and Kimmy Schmidt all have one thing in common. When they came out, they all seemed to get a decent amount of passion, but before too long, the talk surrounding them has pretty much dissipated.

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    David Thewlis should’ve won every award over Alexander Skarsgård.

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